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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:13:47 No.34485623 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34485631 >>34485635 >>34485940 >>34485944 >>34486365 >>34487184 >>34487193 >>34487306 >>34487426 >>34487955 >>34488491 >>34488656 >>34488675 >>34489254 >>34492304 >>34492377

If you could pick one move to make a TM next gen, what would you pick?

My pick goes to Dragon Dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:14:56 No.34485629 Report

Quoted By: >>34485656

v-create

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:15:00 No.34485631 Report

Quoted By: >>34485938

>>34485623
Earth Power

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:15:30 No.34485635 Report

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>>34485623
soft-boiled

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:16:06 No.34485644 Report

Quoted By: >>34485995

Drain Punch? Please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:17:48 No.34485656 Report

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>>34485629
V-create should just be a special tutor like all the other event mons' signature moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:20:24 No.34485673 Report

Quoted By: >>34485938

Earth Power, and give it to grass types like how water types get ice beam.

Also, Nasty Plot, Power Gem, Rapid Spin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:38:01 No.34485769 Report

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Celebrate and Happy Hour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:38:52 No.34485776 Report

Quoted By: >>34485938

Earth Power, Power Gem, Defog, Drain Punch, Liquidation should all be TMs. I'd choose Earth Power tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:39:34 No.34485782 Report

Quoted By: >>34487350

Vaccum wave

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:42:48 No.34485796 Report

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shore up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 06:54:28 No.34485843 Report

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Spectral Thief and give it to Tyranitar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:10:05 No.34485938 Report

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>>34485776
>>34485673
>>34485631

True. Earth Power for grass types would be fantastic

Terra !4dLvBoNE..

Terra !4dLvBoNE.. Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:10:30 No.34485940 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
Flame Charge.

Also buff it 5 BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:10:59 No.34485944 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
FOCUS PUNCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:20:33 No.34485985 Report

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Liquidation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:22:09 No.34485995 Report

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>>34485644
>Drain Punch was a TM in gen IV
>Got replaced by Quash
for what reason

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 07:27:56 No.34486015 Report

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Would it be too much to say aura sphere? Only 14 pokemon out of 809 have natural access to it. >aura sphere primarina

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 08:37:11 No.34486365 Report

Quoted By: >>34487431

>>34485623
Every move that used to be a TM or HM. Every one of them.

>one
Fine, if I had to pick I would pick Hurricane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:47:46 No.34487101 Report

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Psychic Fangs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:51:38 No.34487111 Report

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Nasty Plot, Earth Power, Power Gem, Zing Zap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:56:46 No.34487121 Report

Quoted By: >>34487146

Shore Up just to get rid of that fucking lion, I'm so sick of that fucking lion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:56:58 No.34487122 Report

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Spore

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:57:40 No.34487125 Report

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Icicle Crash

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 12:57:55 No.34487128 Report

Quoted By: >>34488728

Metronome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:03:09 No.34487146 Report

Quoted By: >>34487238

>>34487121
????

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:11:20 No.34487184 Report

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>>34485623
Power Gem, Earth Power, Hydro Pump, Tri Attack, Psycho Cut, Scary Face. Also, PLEASE bring back Focus Punch. I just don't understand why they don't just add 5-10 more TMs for each game instead of just replacing everything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:13:59 No.34487193 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
brave bird
and close combat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:24:41 No.34487238 Report

Quoted By: >>34487273

>>34487146
Bet anon's talking about OU best genie, wishing that recovery will make it finally banworthy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:36:24 No.34487273 Report

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>>34487238
Someone on smogon would write a well-formatted paragraph why Shore Up on Lando-T is not broken and that'd be it. There wouldn't even be a suspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:46:23 No.34487306 Report

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>>34485623
Not entirely updated with the most recent games but Heat Wave, Extremespeed and Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 13:57:08 No.34487350 Report

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>>34485782
This along with Nasty Plot and Aura Sphere

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 14:00:16 No.34487362 Report

Quoted By: >>34487883 >>34487966

Nasty plot, special attackers need more than fucking Charge Beam to buff with

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 14:02:04 No.34487369 Report

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Sketch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 14:20:33 No.34487426 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
High Jump Kick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 14:21:37 No.34487431 Report

Quoted By: >>34487441

>>34486365
I imagine they would make Machamp incompatible with Fissure, but I like the idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 14:22:49 No.34487441 Report

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>>34487431
like it'd be hard to make no guard incompatible with ohko

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 15:59:13 No.34487883 Report

Quoted By: >>34489236

>>34487362

I mean there's Calm Mind, but I get what you're saying since Swords Dance has been a TM for so long

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 16:11:52 No.34487955 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
cut :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 16:13:59 No.34487966 Report

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>>34487362
And give it to Gengar already.
>Ghost pokemon that hides in your shadow, plotting to take your life force
>Doesn't get Nasty Plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:03:22 No.34488246 Report

Quoted By: >>34488270

Mach
Punch. I think Mach Punch on fucking everything would be a lot of fun. Extreme Speed would be a good one too, but I'd make sure Glalie, Altaria, Pinsir, Salamence, Aurorus, Eevee, and Gardevoir never get it, because -ate abilities are pure cancer and need to be retconned out of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:07:11 No.34488270 Report

Quoted By: >>34488286 >>34488319

>>34488246
Pinsir, Salamence and Altaria are examples of -ate abilities done well

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:10:05 No.34488286 Report

Quoted By: >>34488416

>>34488270
>Salamence

Hahaha. No.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:16:27 No.34488319 Report

Quoted By: >>34488416 >>34489753

>>34488270
Doesn't matter if they were done well, I still hate the abilities (although I love the mega design for Altaria and Pinsir. Salamence's is kinda boring though)

If I could I'd just give them all Adaptability and a move of that type that isn't fucking whatever-ate. Probably Brave bird and Icequake (all the Pixilate guys already learn Moonblast)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:38:25 No.34488416 Report

Quoted By: >>34489753

>>34488286
>Salamence
>Only flying type moves are Fly, Air Cutter and Aerial Ace
yes, it was done well, its not like with Gardevoir or Aurorus where they already have good stabs

>>34488319
agreed

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 17:55:30 No.34488491 Report

Quoted By: >>34489855

>>34485623
Water Gun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 18:27:36 No.34488656 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
Petal Blizzard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 18:31:23 No.34488675 Report

Quoted By: >>34489599

>>34485623
The objectively best option, of course:
Fissure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 18:42:32 No.34488728 Report

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>>34487128
This. Metronome as a move has died since Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 20:01:01 No.34489236 Report

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>>34487883
I just want something that things that cant Calm Mind can use for the love of god, i hate how every special attacker i want to use either has Charge Beam or nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 20:03:44 No.34489254 Report

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>>34485623

>if it becomes a TM, then literally every pokemon will get it!

Fuck off with this shit, why do people make such a big deal about TMs? People kept saying "OMG leech life is a tm now, bug types will be top tier!" when the only relevant bug types to learn leech life was buzzwole, and MAYBE golisopod. It's not like heracross/scizor/pinsir could suddenly learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 21:02:53 No.34489599 Report

Quoted By: >>34489693 >>34489950

>>34488675
t. machamp or golurk

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 21:19:42 No.34489693 Report

Quoted By: >>34489950

>>34489599
>machamp or golurk
>not the fastest no guard scarfed user

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 21:28:11 No.34489753 Report

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>>34488319
Pinsir really appreciates having great flying STAB options with things like return and quick attack, taking those away would really hurt it. Also it's typing is god awful from a defensive stand point so it isn't overpowered or anything. Pinsir is a mega done right.
>>34488416
The thing though is salamence was already a fucking monster with access to great physical attacks, a great boosting move in dragon dance, and even a fucking reliable recovery option in roost. It not having many great STAB options for one of its types is barely a disadvantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 21:40:34 No.34489855 Report

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>>34488491
go back to gen 1 and teach it your rattata

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 21:51:42 No.34489950 Report

Quoted By: >>34490107

>>34489693
>>34489599
The fastest No Guard pokemon (without a No Guard evolution) is Mega Pidgeot (121), followed by Midnight Lycanrock (82), then Karrablast (60), Machamp and Golurk (55), and finally Doublade (35).

Fissure would probably get banned to Ubers/AG, in which case the only somewhat viable user of it (given that Pidgeot couldn't learn it and moon dog wouldn't be fast enough to rely exclusively on it) would be Golurk - mind tricks between Stealth Rock and Fissure could get interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 22:09:37 No.34490107 Report

Quoted By: >>34490168

>>34489950
pidgeot, lycanrock and karrablast would never learn fissure, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 22:17:20 No.34490168 Report

Quoted By: >>34490326

>>34490107
Fissure has enough coverage that I wouldn't be surprised if a Rock-type would be able to learn it (Shieldon, a Rock/Steel, can).
Karrablast is a good point, though; it'd probably learn Horn Drill if anything and dominate LC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 22:36:46 No.34490326 Report

Quoted By: >>34490394

>>34490168
lycanroc can't even learn earthquake. it wouldn't get fissure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 22:44:15 No.34490394 Report

Quoted By: >>34490481

>>34490326
It can still learn Drill Run and Earth Power through tutors, and Earthquake is rarer in general in (U)SM - Mudsbray and Mudsdale are the only pokemon that learn it by levelling up, for one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Dec 2017 22:55:42 No.34490481 Report

Quoted By:

>>34490394
Night doesn't learn drill run for whatever reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:27:23 No.34492304 Report

Quoted By:

>>34485623
i just want hone claws back

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:34:39 No.34492353 Report

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Fire Lash

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:36:34 No.34492367 Report

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Sucker Punch. It hasn't been a tutor move in ages, and lots of Pokemon (like Golem and Shiftry) would love to get it again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:37:38 No.34492377 Report

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>>34485623
FUCKING METEOR MASH

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:38:46 No.34492384 Report

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Excuse me, how about Zing Zap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Dec 2017 02:46:32 No.34492455 Report

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Synchronoise.
Only learnable by Dark-type Pokemon.

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