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Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 17:56:22 No.34503684 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34503694 >>34503757 >>34503775 >>34503785 >>34503791 >>34503821 >>34503855 >>34504241

>abilities that set up Mud Sport/Water Sport upon entry
>moves that set up Rainbow/Swamp/Sea of Fire without doing the pledge combos
>Room Extenders
Yes/No?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 17:57:20 No.34503694 Report

Quoted By: >>34503743 >>34503764 >>34503775 >>34504011

>>34503684
isn't water sport just shittier rain dance?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 17:59:38 No.34503715 Report

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>Yes
>Yes
>Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:04:49 No.34503743 Report

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>>34503694
Well it was buffed to like -66.66% rounded up in XY. Something like Golisopod would appreciate it as a HA.

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Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:07:55 No.34503757 Report

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>>34503684
>Rainbow Scald

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Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:08:01 No.34503758 Report

Quoted By: >>34503785

auto trick room

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:09:27 No.34503764 Report

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>>34503694
>>34503743
Water sport also cannot be removed for 5 turns while weather can be reset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:12:22 No.34503775 Report

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>>34503684
Yup, those would be good. The Pledge effects could use a revamp, tho.
Also, Swampert could use an actually useful HA, and Swamp would fill perfectly. Or even any of the 2 sports, i guess.
>>34503694
Kinda, but it's not like it would be the first time it's been done. Water Veil is a shittier Water Bubble, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:13:49 No.34503785 Report

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>>34503684
>>abilities that set up Mud Sport/Water Sport upon entry
Sounds ok

>>moves that set up Rainbow/Swamp/Sea of Fire without doing the pledge combos
Wouldn't mind it

>>Room Extenders
No, TR is now broken in doubles

>>34503758
Stop this meme. Trick Room activates at the end the turn for a reason, to not mess up the order mid turn. Now imagine if you switched or u-turned midturn and switch into auto TR.

An ability/item that switches out the user inmediatly after setting up trick room would give TR the extra momentum it needs without breaking doubles nor fucking up the turn order

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:15:39 No.34503791 Report

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>>34503684
ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:21:23 No.34503821 Report

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>>34503684
>Ability that activates Swamp, which quarters the speed of the opponent team for 4 turns

This may be too much

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:22:33 No.34503831 Report

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>>34503785
They could make it so it only activates in the end of the turn the Pokémon is out. Or the effects don't count when it is activate mid-turn.
If I'm not mistaken, once the turn begins, the order is not changed even if there are changes in speed, or stuff like Tailwind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:26:11 No.34503855 Report

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>>34503684
>abilities that set up Mud Sport/Water Sport upon entry
They are basically a poor mans terrain so I don't see why not

>>moves that set up Rainbow/Swamp/Sea of Fire without doing the pledge combos
Id rather they just buffed the duration rather than make broken moves that make it possible to set up a two mon combo with just one though I guess they could make it a two turn move so you couldn't focus sash cheese and had to either tough it out or use a power herb.

Room extenders would be okay if they made it so that trick room extender had the cost of all the pokemons moves having -1 priority added to them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:29:18 No.34503884 Report

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>>34503831
Turn order is decided at the beginning of a turn with the acception of quash, after you and I guess instruct counts too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:30:29 No.34503895 Report

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>>34503884
>acception
Exception I need to go to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 18:44:01 No.34504011 Report

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>>34503694

It reduces by 67%.

And since rain dance can be broken on non shitmons, giving an auto water sport could be an interesting and useful ability without being broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 19:09:44 No.34504241 Report

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>>34503684
>abilities that set up Mud Sport/Water Sport upon entry
Excellent idea. They should do this post haste.
>moves that set up Rainbow/Swamp/Sea of Fire without doing the pledge combos
Pretty broken actually. Especially in doubles.
Rainbow is the worst. Essentially being serene grace for you and a friend. Apply this to rock slide in doubles and you just have cancer.
Sea of fire would be a boon to stall in singles, given its absurd residual output. Especially if you put this on a fat fucking wall. Least broken of them though.
Swamp is in all just a better auto-tailwind, being an effective x4 speed (quartering theirs). This alone makes speed control a fucking joke and increases TR's presence in doubles even more.
>Room extenders
Sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 20:19:03 No.34504620 Report

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Everyone only ever talks about Trick Room, so how about these changes to the forgotten rooms?
>Magic Room now suppresses Mega Evolution, Ultra Burst, Primal Reversion, and Z-Power
>Wonder Room now swaps Attack and Special Attack instead
Also if Rooms got a significant buff, what if they no longer stacked? Or would that just make Magic and Wonder more useless?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 22:49:17 No.34505588 Report

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>>34503821
Swampert would get it as an HA for sure. Maybe it could hit OU again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Dec 2017 22:50:12 No.34505593 Report

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>>34503821
OP said moves for those 3, not abilities.

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