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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:20:10 No.34520941 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34520956 >>34521008 >>34521028

How the hell do you make a gritty rom hack without making it "edgy?
I've been playing with this idea for a bit and I'm not too sure whats "too much" or "not enough". Say theres a cutscene where one of the villian teams uses their pokemon and lets it attack you, is that too much? I'm looking to making a rom hack and need to some advice

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:22:30 No.34520955 Report

Quoted By: >>34520981

Yeah, don't do what GSC or Colosseum did and have Pokemon attack trainers. That's way too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:22:35 No.34520956 Report

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>>34520941
you are looking on the wrong board. Here, anything is considered "edgy". Just make your romhack the way you want it to be, anon. I personally don't believe there's anything wrong with portraying more serious things or mature content in a romhack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:25:23 No.34520976 Report

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The main thing Id say is avoid cliches or anything else youve seen done many times. And make sure theres a nice variety of characters (and no I dont mean waifus) so no two fill the same story role.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:26:52 No.34520981 Report

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>>34520955
He's a fag OP don't listen to him. Having wild pokemon attack people and having the villians use them to attack people is fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:28:24 No.34520990 Report

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Don't make your evil team a super powerful evil cult

If you must include a cult make them small and incompetent as a side objective to the real plot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:29:25 No.34520997 Report

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Things that I'd consider edgy
>unneeded violence
>pretencious philosophy forced in
>"lol I'm just evil" type of characters
>trying to be cool and hip with the designs without much thought put into themes or biology of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:30:44 No.34521004 Report

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>>34520981
It's sarcasm, Anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:31:31 No.34521007 Report

Quoted By: >>34521020

look at something like Batman which is dark but not edgy

All his villians seem like real people, as if a crazy person might just do that in the real world
Proper motives that make sense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:31:36 No.34521008 Report

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>>34520941
>How the hell do you make a gritty rom hack without making it "edgy?"
This is a problem, especially when you're a whump-slut like I am.
Honestly? You just have to be self aware. The edginess is only "edgy" if it's cringy.
I'd need to know more about the context to give you a straight answer, but no, it's not too much, from the idea, but I wouldn't put it as an ingame mechanic. Maybe an overworld event. No blood, either. pixelated blood is just... the single edgiest thing possible. Hell, actually, check out sword of mana. Might give you some ideas.

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Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:34:35 No.34521020 Report

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>>34521007
>look at something like Batman which is dark but not edgy
absolute insanity. he has like, 1000 different iterations. Also, his edginess is only offset by how fucking extra he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 18:36:06 No.34521028 Report

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>>34520941
You can't. Taking a children's thing and trying to make it "gritty" invariably makes it edgy. It looks try-hard and goofy if you try to shoe-horn in death or violence.

The best thing you can do is try to emulate the sort of lonely, mysterious atmosphere of games like Red or Silver, maybe imply that Pokémon have died on the journey, that violent crime exists, that unethical experimentation is going on, Pokémon and people are being exploited, etc. but leave most of this to the player's imagination. It's always better to suggest these things are happening than to overtly show them, at least if you're working with a children's franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 19:06:41 No.34521250 Report

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Have people behave rationally and act realistically. If something happens make sure there's a reason and it's well-justified.

Read this to get ideas http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RationalFic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 22 Dec 2017 19:34:14 No.34521434 Report

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Play FF VII and use that vibe in your romhack. That's pretty much what Colosseum did but they went a bit more PG

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