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Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 15:59:06 No.34549507 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34550262 >>34550467 >>34552709 >>34552871

Why didn't Skarmory receive a pre-evolution and an HP boost like Mantine?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 16:03:46 No.34549524 Report

Quoted By: >>34550538 >>34552495

Because it's already good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 18:14:48 No.34550262 Report

Quoted By: >>34550528 >>34550879

>>34549507
Because only losers get boosts.

Skarmory is Steel/Flying that, in words of German Bulbapedia, is the second best defeansive type, behind of Steel/Fairy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 18:15:35 No.34550268 Report

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Skarmory doesn't need a BST boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:00:40 No.34550467 Report

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>>34549507
Because prevos are a shitty idea at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:10:24 No.34550528 Report

Quoted By: >>34550535 >>34550700

>>34550262
>behind of Steel/Fairy.
Steel/Dragon is better than Steel/Flying, especially if given Levitate. Steel/Flying is third best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:12:23 No.34550535 Report

Quoted By: >>34550546

>>34550528
>especially if given Levitate.
And steel flying is better if it's given volt-absorb

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:12:57 No.34550538 Report

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>>34549524
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:13:51 No.34550546 Report

Quoted By: >>34550614 >>34550634 >>34550820

>>34550535
Steel/Dragon is better than Steel/Flying even without Levitate. Can you not read?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:26:01 No.34550614 Report

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>>34550546
So why did you feel the need to point out it'd be better, especially with Levitate? Because you have no actual valid reason as to why you think it is.
The thing anyone's better at being here, is you being absolutely retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:28:15 No.34550634 Report

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>>34550546
So you like to swallow focus blast instead of hp fire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:38:19 No.34550700 Report

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>>34550528
Steel/Dragon only has 1 immunity versus Steel/Flying's 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 19:55:23 No.34550820 Report

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>>34550546
Why the fuck would you add a caveat like Abilities to a fucking Type argument tho, that's retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 20:02:45 No.34550866 Report

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>HP boost
Skarmory doesn't need that; it was always better than Mantine

>pre-evo
dear god
>Skarmory pre-evo with Eviolite

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 20:04:38 No.34550879 Report

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>>34550262
Steel / Flying is the better type. It's not weak to ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 26 Dec 2017 23:59:11 No.34552495 Report

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>>34549524
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:26:17 No.34552679 Report

Quoted By: >>34552766

>Steel/Flying
Weaknesses: 2
Fire
Electric

Resistances: 2 + 6
Grass (x4)
Bug (x4)
Normal
Flying
Psychic
Dragon
Steel
Fairy

Immunities: 2
Ground
Poison

>Steel/Dragon
Weaknesses: 2
Ground
Fighting

Resistances:1+8
Grass (x4)
Normal
Water
Electric
Flying
Psychic
Bug
Rock
Steel

Immunities: 1
Poison

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:29:10 No.34552709 Report

Quoted By: >>34552875

>>34549507
>Mantine gets stat boost and Roost
>Still can't compete with Skarmory

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:35:15 No.34552766 Report

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>>34552679
Other effects to consider:
Flying type moveset vs Dragon type moveset.
The former is all but guaranteed access to reliable recovery in the form of roost, while the latter has a high chance of having access to dragon dance and a larger number of coverage moves.
Flying STAB is generally considered superior over Dragon STAB, but the former is not guaranteed to actually have a proper move. Steel STAB complements dragon better than flying.

Steel/Flying takes twice as much damage from stealth rocks, but gains immunity to spikes.

Steel/Flying is more vulnerable to magnezone trapping, Steel/Dragon is more vulnerable to dugtrio trapping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:38:54 No.34552789 Report

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I swear, one of these metal bastards cost me 172 ultra balls long ago in my saphire version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:49:55 No.34552871 Report

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>>34549507
>pure steel hatchling Skarmory
I want it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 00:50:07 No.34552875 Report

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>>34552709
If Toxapex wasn’t around Mantine would probably be used instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 01:01:57 No.34552952 Report

Quoted By: >>34553005

hm interesting

according to just a raw analysis of type effectiveness the most powerful types in terms of both offense and defense would be (disregarding wonder guard entirely)
Ground/Steel
Steel/Fairy
Flying/Steel

all 3 with adaptability

in fact the first non-adaptability type would be fairy aura at rank 15. Though the chart I used as source did not include the surge abilities

Disregarding ability entirely the top 3 would be
Steel/Fairy
Flying/Steel
Ground/Steel

while Steel/Dragon would only come at place 13 due to it's low offensive capability

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 01:09:20 No.34553005 Report

Quoted By: >>34553086

>>34552952
the fairy aura pokemon would be steel/fairy obviously
with the runner ups in terms of ability being
Steel/Fairy with levitate and Steel/Fairy with Flash Fire

...anyone see a hint as to which type combo could really do with some nerfing?

first non-fairy/steel pokemon would be (tied)
Flying/Steel with volt absorb
Flying/Steel with flash fire
Ground/Fire with storm drain
Steel/Dark with dark aura

as said before doesn't take the surge abilities into account

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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 01:18:40 No.34553086 Report

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>>34553005
and for hilarity's sake the worst possible typing it could detect is
Rock/Ice with normalize, which sounds about right

and the worst possible released pokemon it could detect is
Grass/Bug with dry skin
poor ol' paras

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