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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:36:20 No.34558246 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34558262 >>34558265 >>34558326 >>34558405 >>34558454 >>34559288

These are your starters for the next Pokemon game.

Which one do you pick and why?

>fuck off OP, i was expecting some leaks here

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:38:27 No.34558262 Report

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>>34558246
>One two stage
What why

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:38:42 No.34558265 Report

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>>34558246
Solosis because cute and Magic Guard

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:38:54 No.34558267 Report

Quoted By: >>34558275 >>34558279 >>34558484

>Starter needing an evolution stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:39:55 No.34558275 Report

Quoted By: >>34558339

>>34558267
>what is eevee

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:40:28 No.34558279 Report

Quoted By: >>34558339

>>34558267
>he's never played gale of darkness

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:45:36 No.34558326 Report

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>>34558246
>one of them evolves into one of the best designs ingame
>is cucked into oblivion

I really like poison frog but don´t like its evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:47:13 No.34558339 Report

Quoted By: >>34558349 >>34558484

>>34558275
>>34558279
Not him but
>Starter needing an evolution stone in a mainline game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:48:10 No.34558349 Report

Quoted By: >>34558358 >>34558985

>>34558339
ORAS requires an evolution stone for your starter

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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:49:26 No.34558358 Report

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>>34558349

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:52:11 No.34558376 Report

Quoted By: >>34558383 >>34558985

>>34558358
Megastones are essentially temporary evolution stones

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:53:36 No.34558383 Report

Quoted By: >>34558397

>>34558376
Completely optional and not required to reach the third stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:53:40 No.34558385 Report

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seedot bc of his evo's design

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:55:30 No.34558397 Report

Quoted By: >>34558400 >>34558414 >>34558985

>>34558383
All evolution stones are completely optional, nobody says you have to evolve your Eevee but if you want to reach its full potential then you should

There's now a 4th stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:56:19 No.34558400 Report

Quoted By: >>34558409

>>34558397
I said completely optional to get to third stage. Mega Evolution isn't the third stage. No mainline starter needs an evo stone to get to third stage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:56:52 No.34558405 Report

Quoted By: >>34558424

>>34558246
Solosis.

Dat special attack.

And when you use trick room for its speed, oh mah gawd

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:57:32 No.34558409 Report

Quoted By: >>34558412

>>34558400
>Mega Evolution isn't the third stage.

That's why I said the 4th stage, if you want to reach the final stage you need a stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:59:05 No.34558412 Report

Quoted By: >>34558439

>>34558409
I didn't mention any 4th stage. I said no starter needs an evolution stone (Which Mega Stones aren't because they're key items) but one of OPs does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 18:59:17 No.34558414 Report

Quoted By: >>34558439

>>34558397
You're wrong. I don't need to decide between evolving my eevee and evolving my gloom. that alone makes your argument invalid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:00:52 No.34558424 Report

Quoted By: >>34558433

>>34558405
Holy fuck.
I don't really play LC but that stat is better than a lot of fully evolved Pokemon, jesus
archen has pretty nutty stats too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:02:00 No.34558433 Report

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>>34558424
damn straight!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:02:54 No.34558439 Report

Quoted By: >>34558458

>>34558414
That's exactly what I said you idiot

Nobody says you need to evolve them but they will be weaker if you don't

>>34558412
They are evolution stones, they just follow different rules than others
It's like saying ultra beasts aren't legendary

Your argument was that you cant have a started that needs an evolution stone but ORAS changes that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:04:20 No.34558454 Report

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>>34558246
seedot because shiftry's cuteness

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:04:49 No.34558458 Report

Quoted By: >>34558484

>>34558439
>They are evolution stones
But they're not, even if they were OP is wrong
>It's like saying Ultra Beasts aren't legendary
Actually that's more like what you're saying
>Your argument was that you cant have a starter that needs an evolution stone
To get to it's third stage. We aren't talking about megas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:08:46 No.34558484 Report

Quoted By: >>34558563

>>34558458

>>34558267
>>34558339
Never mention 3rd stage before, just that starters haven't needed an evolution stone which is wrong, ORAS requires an evolution stone for your starters to reach the final stage

>Actually that's more like what you're saying
how?
People argued that UBs weren't legendary because they followed different rules to previous legends

You argue Megastones aren't evolution stones because they follow different rules to the stones before

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:21:13 No.34558563 Report

Quoted By: >>34558587

>>34558484
I never mentioned megas because you added that qualifier. Now I'm saying 3rd stage.

Because UBs are legendary by game mechanics but people say they aren't because they're common in their own world. You say Megas are evolution stones even though the game mechanics say they aren't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:25:03 No.34558587 Report

Quoted By: >>34558635

>>34558563
The point still stands, to reach its final stage you need a stone

Game mechanics do say it, they're used to evolve Pokemon in battle
It's just a temporary evolution, if it was just a form it wouldn't have pokedex entries

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:32:20 No.34558635 Report

Quoted By: >>34558686

>>34558587
What do dex entires have to do with it? They didn't have dex entires when they came out. The mechanics say they aren't. Evolution stones are permanent, aren't key items and can't be used in battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:38:52 No.34558686 Report

Quoted By: >>34558701

>>34558635
>What do dex entires have to do with it? They didn't have dex entires when they came out.
Took time to catch up

Mega evolutions are still evolutions even if they aren't permenant
They're not gonna let the stone for them be temporary for a temporary evolution otherwise it would be annoying so they had to be key items

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:42:00 No.34558701 Report

Quoted By: >>34558730

>>34558686
Yea I just googled it, you're wrong. Which is irrelevant to OP being wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:42:06 No.34558702 Report

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>Bide is the only damaging move for Seedot
Who thought this was a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:48:31 No.34558730 Report

Quoted By: >>34558739

>>34558701
Googled what exactly?

Let me guess, you don't have an argument so decided to just bullshit instead of admitting you're wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:49:55 No.34558739 Report

Quoted By: >>34558777

>>34558730
No site includes Mega Stones under the list of Evolution Stones, neither does the game, so you're talking out your ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 19:56:27 No.34558777 Report

Quoted By: >>34558841

>>34558739
Because those sites are run by autists who cant accept change, that's the type of person who would create a Pokemon fan site

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:05:55 No.34558841 Report

Quoted By: >>34558863

>>34558777
Why are they right about everything else? Why doesn't the game treat them like evolution stones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:09:49 No.34558863 Report

Quoted By: >>34558878

>>34558841
No I'm not right about everything but this is obvious

What you mean the game doesn't treat them like evolution stones? they're stones that you use to evolve

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:12:25 No.34558878 Report

Quoted By: >>34558909

>>34558863
>They're stones you use to evolve
No they aren't, they're key items and held items you use to get a temporary form change. Evolution stones are one use items that cause a permanent evolution only to second or third forms. Is Ultranecrozium Z an evolution stone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:17:08 No.34558909 Report

Quoted By: >>34558928 >>34558971 >>34559010

>>34558878
>Ultranecrozium Z
That's a form change
The other forms are clearly unnatural states if you look at the design
Normal one is a hot mess, dusk mane and dawn wings are just trying to steal power from other Pokemon to free itself of that armour

Mega evolutions are exactly like other evolutions, they're just the new 4th stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:19:03 No.34558928 Report

Quoted By: >>34558988

>>34558909
>That's a form change
So is Mega Evolution. They're mechanically identical. They aren't mechanically identical to evolution stones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:22:54 No.34558971 Report

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>>34558909
Would be neat if Zygarde’ Complete form was permanent once 100 cells are collected, same goes for Ultra Necrozma when holding its signature Z-crystal desu

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Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:24:56 No.34558985 Report

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>>34558349
>>34558376
>>34558397

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:25:20 No.34558988 Report

Quoted By: >>34559014

>>34558928
A form change is more of a sideways change
Relic song Meloetta or Giratina origin forms, the differences is minor and bst is the same

Evolution is more upper change, it drastically changes them and BST increased

That's what mega evolution does, they look completely different and BST increased by 100
It's just temporoary because it's hard to stay like that for a long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:28:28 No.34559010 Report

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>>34558909
>Mega evolutions are exactly like other evolutions
>exactly

le inigo montoya faec

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:29:43 No.34559014 Report

Quoted By: >>34559059

>>34558988
There are plenty types of form change. Ash-Greninja changes BST a lot, Castform doesn't change BST at all. BST isn't what defines a form change or evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:36:39 No.34559059 Report

Quoted By: >>34559215

>>34559014
>ash-greninja
That was pretty much a mega

It was introduced in SM anime where megas were a big thing and introduced
Supposedly it happened because Ash had a strong bond, which is what the games/anime said you needed for a mega

Alian whole story was about being the strongest mega-evolution and the final battle was his charizard vs ash-greninja

It's a mega in all but name

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 20:52:57 No.34559215 Report

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>>34559059
>That was pretty much a mega
Because it's a form change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Dec 2017 21:03:44 No.34559288 Report

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>>34558246
It'd be a tough choice between croagunk and solosis. Solosis because I've always wanted to use one, and croagunk because he's a fucking bro, and I stan fighting types.

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