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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:48:07 No.34706565 View View Reply Original Report

>Only two fire type lines
Why aren’t these considered the worst games in the franchise again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:50:34 No.34706586 Report

Quoted By: >>34706668 >>34706968

But anon they are. GF had a decline in sales with those games and had to pull out all the stops with gen 5 to save the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:50:57 No.34706589 Report

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>>34706565
>implying they aren't
DiaPer are the original 40 dollar betas.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:51:44 No.34706596 Report

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>>34706565
>game has poor fire distribution.
Welcome to every Pokémon game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:51:55 No.34706598 Report

Quoted By: >>34706610

>>34706565
One is a starter line and the other is available often throughout the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:52:36 No.34706603 Report

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>>34706565
>He didn't pick Chimchar
Cry harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:52:54 No.34706604 Report

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>>34706565
Because the other games are worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:54:00 No.34706610 Report

Quoted By: >>34706636

>>34706598
and that other one is Ponyta, who doesn't evolve until level 40

Most games don't really have that many Fire types. Fire is actually one of the rarer types out there, despite having 3 guaranteed ones every generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:54:07 No.34706612 Report

Quoted By: >>34706635

>>34706565

Cause they're not. Sinnoh is a cold region, makes sense for there to be little Fire type Pokemon.

Why don't you complain about the lack of new Dark and Ice type Pokemon in Gen 7? (that aren't forms or UB)

Why don't you complain about the 1
(secondary typing) Ground type in Gen 6? (that isn't a legendary)

This is the problem with smaller number of Pokemon in each gen, some types get shafted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:56:13 No.34706622 Report

Quoted By: >>34706979

>>34706565
Literally no one says that, most people agree the 5th was the worst

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:58:52 No.34706635 Report

Quoted By: >>34706680 >>34706877

>>34706612
>Why don't you complain about the lack of new Dark and Ice type Pokemon in Gen 7? (that aren't forms or UB)
>Why don't you complain about the 1
(secondary typing) Ground type in Gen 6? (that isn't a legendary)

Because there are still Dark, Ice, and Ground types in the regional dex. Kalos has a huge regional dex anyway, so it wouldn't have this problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:59:10 No.34706636 Report

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>>34706610
The point is if you really need a fire type you don't have to wait forever to find one. And Ponyta isn't awful for a NFE, plus you can pick up Flamethrower relatively early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 04:59:56 No.34706642 Report

Quoted By: >>34706852

>>34706565
>Not using LeafGreen to capture a Magby

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:00:34 No.34706645 Report

Quoted By: >>34706659

>>34706565
>Ponyta line.
>Magby line.
>Houndour line.
>Flareon from the Eevee you get in Hearthome.
Why is the anti-Sinnoh army so dumb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:02:08 No.34706659 Report

Quoted By: >>34706709 >>34706714

>>34706645
>defends diamond and pearl with Pokemon found in platinum for some reason
Why are sinnoh fetuses so dumb

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:03:27 No.34706668 Report

Quoted By: >>34706713

>>34706586
why are you lying, anon-kun?

source: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/ds.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:05:02 No.34706679 Report

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>>34706565
SM and XY exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:05:10 No.34706680 Report

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>>34706635
>(secondary typing) Ground type in Gen 6? (that isn't a legendary)
Diggersby tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:05:14 No.34706682 Report

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Fire types are trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:06:32 No.34706690 Report

Quoted By: >>34706703 >>34706998

Didn't Hoenn literally only have Blaziken, Camerupt and Torkoal? Like 3 fire pokemon to use in the journey?

Even the anime was fucked with this since May got Torchic, they had nothing to give Ash so they lumped Torkoal on him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:08:05 No.34706703 Report

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>>34706565
They are the worst, but that's just a factor in it. The reason they aren't considered the worst is that people who grew up with them post here now, and "muh comf"
>>34706690
You're forgetting magcargo, but whatever. Another difference there is that camerupt and torkoal were ok while ponyta was shit until level 30 and only got marginally better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:08:26 No.34706709 Report

Quoted By: >>34706778 >>34706786

>>34706659
Houndoom is in Pearl. But keep embarrassing yourself!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:09:33 No.34706713 Report

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>>34706668
>The City of Unovabortions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:09:33 No.34706714 Report

Quoted By: >>34706778 >>34706786

>>34706659
Uhhh anon all of those are catchable in Diamond and/or Pearl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:10:27 No.34706719 Report

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They kinda fix it in Platinum, yet it's underwhelming considering the considerable amount of fire types from previous gens.

I guess thematic-wise it makes sense, but gameplay wise means you are obliged to pick Chimchar for a decent fire type.

It's more like a availability issue than a pokemon issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:10:47 No.34706723 Report

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>>34706565
Because RS managed to be even worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:10:56 No.34706725 Report

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>>34706565
Cause that's the stupidest single reason to decide you hate a whole Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:14:16 No.34706751 Report

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>>34706565
Because the best game and the worst game are subjective. Also, something isn't entirely bad or entirely good, are you a fucking christian? manichaeism is a cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:15:05 No.34706757 Report

Quoted By: >>34706761 >>34706787 >>34707640 >>34707669

>>34706565
Still better than GSC at least.
>Didn't pick Cyndaquil? Well too bad because now your only choices for firemons are Slugma, Houndour and Growlithe, the first 2 only available in post-game and Growlithe won't evolve for a long ass time because fire stone is in post game lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:16:20 No.34706761 Report

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>>34706757
>what is Magmar?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:19:04 No.34706778 Report

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>>34706709
>>34706714
get a load of these retards

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:19:56 No.34706786 Report

Quoted By: >>34706837

>>34706709
>>34706714
Not him, but they're postgame-only in DP, which basically amounts to them not being there at all since you can't use them in a playthrough without trading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:19:59 No.34706787 Report

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>>34706757
>what is entei

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:21:09 No.34706794 Report

Quoted By: >>34706928 >>34706985

GSC was no better with its fire type distribution too. Don't like Cyndaquil? You'll have to wait lategame for a Fire Stone for your Vulpix or Arcanine. Want Slugma or Houndour? Wait until Kanto for that. I mean you can catch Magmar in Burned Tower but it's far from a good Fire type.

Either list better reasons for why DP is shit instead of
>muh speed
>muh fire types
Or fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:28:28 No.34706837 Report

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>>34706786
>Retard says only "found in platinum".
>This is objectively wrong and I show him.
Please keep up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:29:52 No.34706844 Report

Quoted By: >>34706866

>>34706565
Did you make this thread too? >>34706342
kys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:31:56 No.34706852 Report

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>>34706642
you need the national dex for the gba-mons

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:32:13 No.34706855 Report

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>>34706565
>he uses fire-types in his playthrough

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:32:13 No.34706856 Report

Quoted By:

>>34706565
Literally EVERY game has poor fire type selection you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:33:43 No.34706866 Report

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>>34706844
get out underage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:35:09 No.34706877 Report

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>>34706635
Like I said, Sinnoh - Cold region.
Would you find Ice types in a dry, desert land?

I do agree that they could've added in another Fire type line and had Eevee evolutions available before the post game to add in one more Fire type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:45:33 No.34706928 Report

Quoted By: >>34707649

>>34706794
>"list reasons why DP is shit besides those two huge reasons"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:53:29 No.34706968 Report

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>>34706586
>GF had a decline in sales with those games
What? No they didn't. They sold a bit more than RS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:54:58 No.34706979 Report

Quoted By: >>34707041 >>34707081

>>34706622
Absol-utely not, gen 5 was the peak. 4 was the trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:56:19 No.34706985 Report

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>>34706794
>but it's far from a good Fire type
Considering you can teach it Fire Punch and Thunderpunch right off the fucking bat, yes it was. It's not like it matters, Fire-types in the early gens are either redundant or just useless in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 05:59:18 No.34706998 Report

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>>34706690
and ninetails, and the slugma line

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:01:07 No.34707007 Report

Quoted By: >>34707027 >>34707035

They did it to give you a reason to pick chimchar. They knew it was the shittiest starter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:01:22 No.34707009 Report

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>>34706565
Yes they are. But it's irrelevant because platinum fixed all of it's issues with an expanded dex etc. and became the best main series game in the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:05:01 No.34707027 Report

Quoted By: >>34707039 >>34707042

>>34707007
a fast strong mixed attacker with utility moves = shitty?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:06:55 No.34707035 Report

Quoted By: >>34707039 >>34707042

>>34707007
Chimchar was easily the best starter of that gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:07:54 No.34707039 Report

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>>34707027
>>34707035
>falling for obvious bait

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:08:02 No.34707041 Report

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>>34706979
yeah, gen5 is definitely the peak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:08:10 No.34707042 Report

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>>34707027
>>34707035
t.monkey cucks

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:17:04 No.34707081 Report

Quoted By: >>34707086

>>34706979
Peak of shit designs perhaps.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 06:18:30 No.34707086 Report

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>>34707081
>m-muh designs
*posts a generic animu girl*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:22:58 No.34707640 Report

Quoted By: >>34707657

>>34706757

>Growlithe won't evolve for a long ass time because fire stone is in post game lol.

Finally, someone who understands. For all of peoples complaints about the lack of fire types in Gen 4, Gen 2 locked stone evolutions to postgame. If you had to compare all the stone evolution types to Gen 4 fire-mons, the numbers would probably be similar. Gen 2 had a retarded saturation of Normal types and Im not gay enough to use those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:25:12 No.34707649 Report

Quoted By: >>34707677

>>34706928

Speed is a legitimate argument however was fixed with platinum. And muh fire is a shit argument because its a double standard when other gens get a pass for crappy distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:26:39 No.34707657 Report

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>>34707640
Not gay enough to use Normal types, but not normie enough to use Normalmons?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:31:16 No.34707669 Report

Quoted By: >>34707691

>>34706757
>mfw I used Growlithe, Nidorino and Nidorina in my team during my first playthrough of Gold
It was as frustating as it sounds like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:33:17 No.34707677 Report

Quoted By:

>>34707649
This. Who cares anyway it's only fire types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:38:41 No.34707691 Report

Quoted By: >>34707705

>>34707669
Moon Stones are available pre-E4 though. What was your issue?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:43:27 No.34707705 Report

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>>34707691
i think he means like its a bit of a drag carrying a Nidorina/rhino till your on your way to the elite four

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:47:10 No.34707723 Report

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>Medicham learns Fire Punch
>Hippowdon learns Fire Fang
>Drapion Learns Fire Fang

And I'm not counting TM35.

I know they're not Fire type, but I don't see the big necessity of having one. And if you claim to be autistic about having always a Fire type on your team then you answered yourself: you're autistic, your problem. The only truly needed type (at least in the first 4 Gens) was Water because Surf, but still many other non-Water type mons learned it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 08:57:15 No.34707774 Report

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>>34706565
GS exist...
Literally:
>Cyndaquil line
>Magmar

Fire stone Kanto, Slugma Kanto, Houndour Kanto etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2018 09:19:24 No.34707866 Report

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>B-but cold region
>Only ice types are the sneasel and snover lines

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