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>>34754275
no fuck you, Dragonite get's drizzle

Mega Dragonite
Hp: 91
Atk: 158
Def: 120
Satk: 125
Sdef: 125
Spd: 81

It is actually a good pokemon. The new speed tier enables it to out speed base 130 after a DD, and it becomes the best mixed attacker in the game. Enjoy inferior Dragon trainer

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 18:33:36 No.34754670 Report

Quoted By: >>34754684

>>34754665
also there should be an event to distribute Dragonitite and the event should be naive and have water shuriken

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 18:35:40 No.34754684 Report

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>>34754670
might as well give it dragon ascent and bolt strike as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 18:39:47 No.34754705 Report

Quoted By: >>34754913

>>34754665
Why though? Kingdra makes more sense considering swift swim and its obviously a water type. Dragonite should stick with multiscale. Then it can set up a free ddance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 19:21:37 No.34754913 Report

Quoted By: >>34755172

>>34754705
Dragonite is the only one of the two who gets to benefit from both abilities.

>set up dragon dance and break multi scale, then mega evolve and become best mixed attacker in game

>kingdra enters dry arena with swift swim, proceeds to go slow, kingdra mega evolves, it starts to drizzle, Kingdra continues to go slow.

it would make moresense on a pokemon like politoed to have a mega with swift swim than to give a mon with swift swim a mega with the ability drizzle.

but i get the water part, but still dratini line has always had a link to water, but mega dragonite should still be dragon/flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:15:48 No.34755172 Report

Quoted By: >>34755406

>>34754913
I get the idea but one thing is that 105 speed isn't slow sure it isn't as fast as swift swim kingdra but the bulk I gave it plus its great typing and the ability drizzle would more than make up for it. I also made it a mixed attacker with good offensive ability due to drizzle + hydro pump which would hit like a truck on kingdra's theoretical mega I gave it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:25:09 No.34755220 Report

Quoted By: >>34755244 >>34758681

Mega Goodra
Dragon/Poison
Filter
90
100
70 > 120
110 > 130
150 > 180
80

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:29:18 No.34755244 Report

Quoted By: >>34755455

>>34754275
>drizzle
the point is that kingdra benefits from rain, not sets it
>those mostly balanced stats
bottom tier UU desu
>that design
yuck
3/10

>>34754665
>drizzle again
what the fuck
>stats
i mean a bit better, but i'd still use regular band dragonite or a bulky set with roost
5/10

>>34755220
>literally being a worse special tank than avdra
>new weakness to ground
>giving a mega to goodra at all
0/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:30:54 No.34755252 Report

Quoted By: >>34755271 >>34756265 >>34756875

Mega Haxorus
Dragon/Steel
Tough Claws
HP: 76
Atk: 192 (+55)
Def: 100 (+10)
SpA: 40 (-20)
SpD: 100 (+30)
Spe: 122 (+25)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:33:33 No.34755271 Report

Quoted By: >>34755276

>>34755252
>Highest attack stat in the game
>Tough Claws
>High speed
>One of the best defensive typings in the game
>(-20)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:34:32 No.34755276 Report

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>>34755271
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:37:37 No.34755300 Report

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Mega Clefable
Fairy
Unaware
HP: 95
Atk: 70
Def: 120 (+47)
SpA: 101 (+6)
SpD: 137 (+47)
Spe: 60

Mega Tauros
Normal
Sheer Force
HP: 75
Atk: 125 (+25)
Def: 120 (+25)
SpA: 40
SpD: 95 (+25)
Spe: 135 (+25)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 20:44:11 No.34755329 Report

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Mega Dhelmise
Ghost/Steel
Steelworker
HP: 70
Atk: 146 (+15)
Def: 140 (+40)
SpA: 86
SpD: 120 (+30)
Spe: 55 (+15)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:00:47 No.34755406 Report

Quoted By: >>34755488

>>34755172
yes it will have a niche in fire water grass cores in ru, there are you happy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:11:04 No.34755455 Report

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>>34755244
banded Drag is a decent set, but you clearly play this game who too straight forward. the ammount of sets you can run with drizzle Mega Dragonite is sureal.

>DD, Dragon Claw/Outrage, Earthquake, Aqua jet/aqua tail
>DD, Dragon Claw/Outrage, E-speed/aqua jet, Hurricane
>DD, Dragon Stab, Priority, Hurricane/Thunder
>DD, Dragon Stab, Hurricane, Thunder
>DD, Hurricane, Earthquake, Aqua Tail/ Priority
>Hurricane, Thunder, Ice beam/EQ, roost
>Hurricane, Thunder, Ice beam, priority
>Hurricane, Thunder, Ice beam, Dragon Pulse
>Hurricane, Roost, Toxic, Dragon Tail

get gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:19:08 No.34755488 Report

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>>34755406
You clearly don't know shit about the metagame. 75/115/105 is good bulk and combined with kingdra's typing with only 2 weaknesses to fairy and dragon it will be hard to knock out. Also Kingdra has access to dragon dance this will let it outpace most of the metagame simply after 1 boost. Then you also have to factor in that it has a good matchup against many pokemon in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:23:44 No.34755511 Report

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Mega Starmie
Regenerator
Water/Psychic

60/75/85/100/85/115 ->
60/75/110/140/110/125

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:24:33 No.34755516 Report

Quoted By:

mega pidgey

HP:255
ATK: 255
DEF: 255
SP ATK: 255
SP DEF 255
SPD: 254

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:27:44 No.34755528 Report

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Nidoqueen-Mega
Rough Skin
Poison/Ground

HP: 90
Attack: 132 (+40)
Defense: 137 (+50)
Sp. Attack: 85 (+10)
Sp. Def: 105 (+20)
Speed: 56 (-20)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:29:24 No.34755537 Report

Quoted By: >>34755678

>>34754275
Mega-Electrode
Electric
Electric Surge
60
50(-20)
125(+45)
50(-30)
255(+105)

ELECTRODE FASTEST THERE IS

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:34:18 No.34755565 Report

Quoted By: >>34755579 >>34756481

Mega Lando-T
Ground/Flying
Regenerator

89
185
110
125
80
111

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:36:47 No.34755579 Report

Quoted By: >>34755704

>>34755565
banned in normal play, not particularly great in ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:47:03 No.34755646 Report

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>>34754659
Same

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:50:29 No.34755667 Report

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Mega Toucannon
Normal/Flying
Enraged: Attacking the user raises Attack one stage every time damage is dealt.
HP: 80
Atk: 165 (+45)
Def: 95 (+20)
SpA: 100 (+25)
SpD: 75
Spe: 70 (+10)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:51:29 No.34755678 Report

Quoted By:

>>34755537
>pidgey used quick attack!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 21:56:37 No.34755704 Report

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>>34755579
As it should be.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:20:59 No.34756221 Report

Quoted By: >>34756875 >>34759532 >>34759863

Mega Golurk
Ghost/Steel
ATP: Negates all damage from contact moves unless the attacker also has ATP as an ability.
HP: 89
Atk: 55 (-69)
Def: 110 (+30)
SpA: 144 (+89)
SpD: 110 (+30)
Spe: 75 (+20)

Mega Bisharp
Dark/Steel
ATP
HP: 65
Atk: 144 (+19)
Def: 144 (+44)
SpA: 77 (+17)
SpD: 85 (+15)
Spe: 75 (+5)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:25:42 No.34756265 Report

Quoted By: >>34756281 >>34756354

>>34755252
>Tough Claws
>not Adaptability
It's like you want it to be PU trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:28:02 No.34756281 Report

Quoted By: >>34756299

>>34756265
It speed ties base greninja, can one shot nearly anything not physically defensive, and has one of the best defensive typings in the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:32:11 No.34756299 Report

Quoted By: >>34756437

>>34756281
Skarmory and Celesteela counter it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:40:36 No.34756354 Report

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>>34756265
If your STABs make contact, like in the case of Haxorus, Tough Claws has the same damage bonus of Adaptability and obviously boosts coverage as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:54:17 No.34756437 Report

Quoted By: >>34756521

>>34756299

both gets 2hkoed by +2 tough claws with just about any relevant strong attack in it's movepool it would level with that stat line

they can't switch in directly without dying next turn and even if they come in fresh they are losing a huge chunk of HP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 24 Jan 2018 23:59:52 No.34756481 Report

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>>34755565
Whack, where is your flying move?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 00:06:17 No.34756521 Report

Quoted By: >>34756904

>>34756437

also to show balls out OP this thing is keep in mind kartana's most used attacks are 90 BP or less with only knock off having a situational boost. which makes that 181 base attack seem less daunting if this thing had stronger stabs and coverage it'd be able to just muscle pass resists only without needing to waste a Z-move slot to do it.

that hypothetical mega haxous not only has outrage but would gain stab on iron tail.which is then boosted by tough claws you have a 234 BP dragon move and a 195 BP steel move as stabs backed by 192 base attack and you gave it a amazing speed tier of 122 there's no way this thing wouldn't be busted and before one goes "muh fairies" no fucking fairy is capable of switching in on that powerful of a stab iron tail and has to rely on a miss to avoid dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 01:10:29 No.34756875 Report

Quoted By: >>34757373

>>34756221
No one thinks these are broken, probably because of the shitstorm that is >>34755252

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 01:15:47 No.34756904 Report

Quoted By: >>34756961 >>34757274

>>34756521
I mean, Stakataka can handle it, unless you use the most common ground type move...
252 Atk Tough Claws Haxorus Iron Head vs. 128 HP / 252+ Def Stakataka: 94-112 (31.8 - 37.9%) -- 95.1% chance to 3HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 01:25:07 No.34756961 Report

Quoted By: >>34756969

>>34756904
>128/252+ on stak
at most it'd be 252/0

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 01:26:16 No.34756969 Report

Quoted By: >>34757157

>>34756961
Metagames adapt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 02:00:42 No.34757157 Report

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>>34756969
And stak doesn't care about metagames adapting because it's OTR, that haxorus can't switch into it unless it's carrying earthquake, and if it is then stak investing in defense doesn't matter
changing a 2hko to a 3hko isn't big enough for it to miss out on ohko's and 2hko's against other stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 02:18:46 No.34757274 Report

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>>34756904
>Jolly
>on a fast dancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 02:36:16 No.34757373 Report

Quoted By: >>34757769

>>34756875
Probably because Golurk isn't that broken. Bisharp might very well be though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 02:42:32 No.34757420 Report

Quoted By: >>34757483 >>34757532 >>34758027 >>34760426 >>34764089

>>34754665
retarded

Dragonite-Mega @ Dragonitite (Shut up about Dragonitenite, faggots)
Ability: Multiscale

HP: 91
Atk: 173
Def: 135
SpA: 105
SpD: 105
Spe: 91

Potential set:
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant/Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 SpA
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall/Aqua Tail
- Fire Punch/Extreme Speed
- Thunder Punch/Extreme Speed

Fire Punch for Ferrothorn, Bulu and Tangrowth; Thunder Punch for Azumarill, Toxapex and Greninja. Can forego one of these for E-Speed if its team can handle them. Outrage could fit, but it would need heavier team support. If it's checks are managed accordingly, this thing would be unstoppable after 1 or 2 DD.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 02:52:46 No.34757483 Report

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>>34757420
>Implying you need coverage to hit greninja
Not running Dragon STAB on Dragonite is retarded. DD/Claw/EQ/ Fire Puch or Espeed. dont run Waterfall or Thunder Punch lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 03:00:23 No.34757532 Report

Quoted By:

>>34757420
with that absolutely massive attack stat, it doesn't give a shit about coverage for azu and greninja
honestly should change the ability to something more useful if you're going for the whole broken mega thing. The great benefit of dragonite is that it can set up before it mega evolves since, you know, you don't have to mega evolve the moment you bring the pokemon in

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 03:34:43 No.34757769 Report

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>>34757373
Aura Sphere or Focus Blast (if it can hit) will still deal with Bisharp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 04:11:56 No.34758027 Report

Quoted By:

>>34757420
you gave it's mega nothing but stat boosts and call me stupid, you buffed the best dragon, maybe best pokemon for half a gen till move tutors for ultra mega beasts in gen 8 leave it with no niche, but yeah my idea of diversifying its role is fucking stupid. good luck at any competitive level

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 06:40:19 No.34758681 Report

Quoted By: >>34759264

>>34755220
Mega slug should be the one with drizzle. Thematically it makes the most sense, it's the only one with a link to rain in the first place. Not to mention making it part water would make ot only weak to fairy, like kingdra, but with better defensive stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 10:17:29 No.34759264 Report

Quoted By: >>34759917

>>34758681
not everything needs drizzle, keep it to pokemon that it actually makes sense to have like bronzong
the most thematic ability for goodra besides gooey is thick fat

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 11:34:21 No.34759532 Report

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>>34756221
>Special Golurk
I mean, it has a wide special movepool but c'mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 13:49:10 No.34759863 Report

Quoted By:

>>34756221
>89/55/110/144/110/75
>Ghost/Steel
>ATP: Negates all damage from contact moves unless the attacker also has ATP as an ability.
The most retarded suggestion I've read in a thread about mega evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 14:10:22 No.34759917 Report

Quoted By: >>34759944

>>34759264
>makes sense to have drizzle
>bronzong
No

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 14:18:36 No.34759944 Report

Quoted By: >>34759955

>>34759917
Do you look at pokedex entries, or know the lore behind pokemon at all? Bronzong is a dōtaku, summoning rain is what it's all about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 14:21:35 No.34759955 Report

Quoted By: >>34759991

>>34759944
I would prefer my floaty bell not to die to earthquake, and instead, wish for swampert to get drizzle as hidden

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 14:33:48 No.34759991 Report

Quoted By: >>34760248

>>34759955
oh yeah, it'd be worse than levitate, but it makes more sense for bronzong to have it than basically everything else considering it explicitly summons rain as a hobby and has features resembling a god of rain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 15:45:51 No.34760248 Report

Quoted By:

>>34759991
well technically drizzle takes away its weakness to fire. While not as useful as an immunity to ground it still would help bronzong out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 16:20:26 No.34760426 Report

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>>34757420
>keeping multiscale
>just giving him a stab boost with no other changes
you really have no idea what you´re doing

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 25 Jan 2018 22:42:50 No.34762494 Report

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Mega Crabominable
Fur Coat
Fighting/Ice

HP: 97
ATK: 172 (+40)
DEF: 77
SPA: 62
SPD: 107 (+40)
SPE: 63 (+20)

Learns: Ice Shard, Mach Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2018 02:50:47 No.34764089 Report

Quoted By:

>>34754665
>>34757420
If Dragonite ever gets a mega it should have a +60 attack so it will return to have the biggest attack in the game like he had before

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