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Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 18:59:35 No.34786468 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34786477 >>34786497 >>34786527 >>34786529 >>34786700 >>34788108

I cant bring myself to play gen 3+ games because of natures and ivs. In gen 1 and 2 ivs didnt matter very much and without natures catching pokemon wasn't a chore. Anyone else hate it how Pokemon became stat spreadsheets?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:00:21 No.34786473 Report

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they still don't matter you autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:00:46 No.34786477 Report

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>>34786468
It doesn't even matter in game, grampa.

When RS came out I didn't notice it, and it still doesn't impact the main story now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:02:10 No.34786483 Report

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All those new mechanics don't really matter if all you want is to have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:05:22 No.34786492 Report

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Ten percent difference isn’t very much to worry about in game. Especially because it’s likely you’ll get a neutral nature or one that doesn’t matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:06:59 No.34786497 Report

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>>34786468
It’s a pain in the ass for competitive but it doesn’t make a big difference in-game. Even with natures and IVs RSE is one of the easier gens to go through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:07:41 No.34786501 Report

Quoted By: >>34786506 >>34786511 >>34786536 >>34786540

>>34786477
Try using an adamant special attacker ingame and say that to my face and not online and see what happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:08:45 No.34786506 Report

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>>34786501
you would still breeze through maingame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:10:02 No.34786511 Report

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>>34786501
The main game is meant to be completed at kids, if you are whining about it you are essentially admitting a children’s video game is getting the better of you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:13:13 No.34786527 Report

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>>34786468
nobody cares about it ingame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:13:23 No.34786529 Report

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>>34786468
It's a non-issue, in-game you'll never have a problem, you can probably breeze through with an adamant 0 Iv special attacker since it's so damn easy. And competitive is supposed to be competitive, even in Gen I and II you'd want the best DVs and max out everything, and in Gen 3 you tried to get 2 perfect IVs at least (and it was an awful chore, cheating was almost a must if you were serious about it).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:15:30 No.34786536 Report

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>>34786501
oh no i'll do slightly less damage vs pokemon without evs and good natures
you can also just avoid -your main attacking stat natures

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:15:44 No.34786540 Report

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>>34786501
>used Adamant Alakazam in Emerald
>used Adamant Porygon-Z in Plat
>used Adamant Salazzle in Moon
I've done all of these, and they were still the MVPs of their respective teams. The minor % changes of natures REALLY don't change much in the main story; it's only in competitive that every point counts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:34:03 No.34786592 Report

Quoted By: >>34786637 >>34786658 >>34788085

OP, ignore those who say it doesn't matter, because it definitely does

>played blue and crystal as a kid
>skipped gen 3
>picked up pearl on release
>chose chimchar because friend tells me its badass and kills everything in one shot
>mine is mediocre instead
>keep missing KOs by 1-5%
>glass cannon so always fainting
>wondering why mine sucks
>look up natures/stats
>find out its calm nature is detrimental
>find out I cant change it
>get pissed at this stupid fucking new mechanic
>delete save and restart

To this day, I can't use something unless its nature is at the very least neutral. I don't care if I have to spend hours SRing for my starter or passing up the rare 2% encounter I want. Getting rid of natures or at the very least being able to switch them is the biggest change I want for gen 8.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:34:07 No.34786593 Report

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You can beat the game with a bad nature, IV and chaotic EV spreads

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:41:29 No.34786629 Report

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>>34786536
>pokemon without evs and good natures
i don't think you played sm anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:43:12 No.34786637 Report

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>>34786592
>buying a videogame, ON RELEASE EVEN, without researching the basic mechanics behind it
>mechanics that are a generation old

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:45:49 No.34786658 Report

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>>34786592
So you pretty much failed in the beginning areas of the game and ragequit? That’s a whole new level of pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:51:02 No.34786686 Report

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>>34786637
>spoiling yourself months before release
>not enjoying the surprise
Although I guess in my case, the surprise was shit

>>34786658
It was around the 8th badge when I noticed Infernape was not pulling as much weight as it should. Made the restart that much more painful

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:51:50 No.34786688 Report

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>>34786686
>It was around the 8th badge when I noticed Infernape was not pulling as much weight as it should. Made the restart that much more painful
All right that’s a bit more justified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 19:53:17 No.34786700 Report

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>>34786468
I mean, all this and even EV training is always in the back of my mind even omduring the most casual of my playthroughs. The bliss of ignorance is nice in that regard. That said, it's easy to convince yourself that it doesn't matter and it's still a game for babies.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 20:07:55 No.34786771 Report

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>he made a thread just so he could continue complaining
>>34783938
0- SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rattata-Alola: 288-338 (109 - 128%) -- guaranteed OHKO
:thinking:
Nature and EVs don't fucking matter in story, as I have said.
Playing the story is all about keeping the type advantage.
While 0- SpA Primarina Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Golisopod: 78-93 (22 - 26.2%) -- 7.1% chance to 4HKO, 0- SpA Magnezone Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Golisopod: 168-200 (47.4 - 56.4%) -- 85.5% chance to 2HKO
These are all with 0IVs and bad natures, and if you can't switch to get the fucking advantage, or play on switch mode, then something is wrong with you. Reminder that almost everything in the story has no EVs or IVs and a hardy nature, so it's almost impossible to be at a true disadvantage because of all of these, and it is usually your fault.
Natures and EVs add a layer of complexity to competitive, but don't really matter in the story, where type combos are more important.
In Gen 3+ more than moves matter, making it more fun, and you don't have to EV train by playing FUCKING SHOWDOWN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 21:08:14 No.34787137 Report

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>all of these people saying it doesnt matter
It ruined pokemon romhacks too. The kaizo pokemon hacks are great except for Emerald Kaizo because I have to keep resetting until i get a starter that doesnt have a garbage nature, and same for catching wild pokemon. I dont have such problems in gen one/two difficulty hacks. Every fan pokemon mmo is ruined by natures too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 21:12:27 No.34787169 Report

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It only matters in a nuzlocke and even then its not a death sentence for a pokemon without it's optimal nature

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 21:30:23 No.34787249 Report

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I don’t see why it matters that much when I beat rse and frlg without really knowing about what natures meant and didn’t have much trouble. Yeah after knowing it can be slightly annoying to play again, and I might SR for a not shit nature for the starter, but that’s about it. I don’t care about having a perfect run.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 23:52:20 No.34788085 Report

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>>34786592
>ragequitting in Pokemon mainstory

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 23:55:37 No.34788108 Report

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>>34786468
It doesn't matter. I've never had an in-game team with even halfway decent IVs and I've been fine. Every time I get to the IV checker in the post-game, I find out that my team had shit IVs in speed and their main attack. Every single time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 29 Jan 2018 23:56:24 No.34788112 Report

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are people this bad? Nature and IVs don't do anything in mainstory. I don't even look at it. It only becomes relevant if you breed for competitive play.
Hoe can you be this butthurt if your starter doesn't onehit every enemy?

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