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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:05:50 No.34811484 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>34811490 >>34811503 >>34811555 >>34811770 >>34811863 >>34812007 >>34812051 >>34812356 >>34812473 >>34812686 >>34816060

>Read normie article that ranks Pokemon games from best to worst
>Gen 1 and 2 at the top
>Gen 5 at the bottom

What is your argument for why Gen 5 should be considered one of the worst gens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:07:23 No.34811487 Report

Quoted By: >>34812351 >>34813070

Literally nothing. The only problem with gen 5 were muh icecreammon and muh trashmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:10:00 No.34811490 Report

Quoted By: >>34811508

>>34811484
Normies have bad taste, what else is new?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:14:59 No.34811503 Report

Quoted By: >>34811508 >>34812041

>>34811484
Link?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:17:18 No.34811508 Report

Quoted By: >>34812616 >>34812810 >>34812999

>>34811490
I've seen people on this board claim Gen 5 is shit, but never seem any of them give any valid reason besides shitting on the Pokemon designs, which weren't all that bad.

>>34811503
Just google "best pokemon generation" and most of them will rank Black and White at the bottom and Gen 1 or 2 at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:20:24 No.34811510 Report

Quoted By: >>34811515 >>34811539

I would rather want argumenrs for gen 1 or gen 2 to be at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:20:47 No.34811512 Report

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Can't argue that position, they're not. It was refreshing not seeing the same fucking 'mons for another Gen, wish they doubled-down on that in future games but the normie faggots screeching is louder than me saying "more like that please" so we're stuck here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:21:51 No.34811514 Report

Quoted By: >>34811545

They are right, gen 1 and 2 are the only canon ones, the rest is tumblr digimon fanfic, especially whitemon and blackedmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:21:57 No.34811515 Report

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>>34811510
because they're the only gen played by most the normies voting on these things

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:30:02 No.34811539 Report

Quoted By: >>34811605 >>34812543

>>34811510
Nostalgia is the prevalent reasoning for this. Although Gen 2 is a little more justified because a second region was a lot of content. People like to complain that it's a gimped version of Kanto but what do they expect? Pokemon Red Blue and Yellow all over again right after beating the League? It's a retarded reason to bash them imo. But yeah, nostalgia makes normies go round.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:31:04 No.34811545 Report

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>>34811514
People like you are the reason Pokemon is trash now. Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:34:10 No.34811555 Report

Quoted By: >>34811573

>>34811484
nowadays i see more normies praising Gen V than hating it, there's a lot of normie unovabortions too, BW aren't special games only enjoyable by patricians

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:35:41 No.34811562 Report

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>34811514
>34811512
Almost got me...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:36:10 No.34811563 Report

Quoted By: >>34811575 >>34811626

>caring about other people's opinions instead of liking gen v and not giving a shit
Imagine being this insecure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:39:45 No.34811573 Report

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>>34811555
I'm guilty for not liking BW on release(I was still playing Gen 4, that's how much I didn't want to move on) just because it wasn't on 3DS, but completely fell in love with BW2. Then after X and Y came out and disappointed this shit out of me, I realized too late that Gen V was the best of all. At least I made the absolute most of BW2 in the 3 short months it lived before X and Y hype completely killed it off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:40:18 No.34811575 Report

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>>34811563
You can't say anything that you like without telling others that you like it unironically

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:49:08 No.34811605 Report

Quoted By: >>34811619 >>34812543

>>34811539
You wanna know what's more retarded? That HGSS didn't fix GSC's problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:54:00 No.34811619 Report

Quoted By: >>34811746

>>34811605
Such as what? Muh level curve?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 13:55:09 No.34811626 Report

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>>34811563
Gee it's almost like I wanted to start a discussion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 14:37:26 No.34811746 Report

Quoted By: >>34811991

>>34811619
Saying muh doesn't dismiss it as a valid point. Kanto is also a barren wasteland.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 14:42:38 No.34811770 Report

Quoted By: >>34812041

>>34811484
>doesn't even link the article

Gee is this bait? UwU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:07:05 No.34811840 Report

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That makes me sad, I like just about every Pokémon game. But gen 5 is my favorite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:13:36 No.34811863 Report

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>>34811484
Gen 5 is my favorite but the flaws Black and White 1 have are pretty surface level, which is what normies care about most. It has a couple pretty poorly designed Pokemon that got used by everyone as the defining designs of the generation, the region in is pretty boring (it's just a circle and is entirely linear until you beat the league), and you can't catch all the Pokemon from the previous games until after you become champion, so it upsets normies who say they like Pokemon but really only liked gen 1 and 2. I don't even think the last is a flaw since my favorite thing about BW was having to learn all the new Pokemon and getting to use them all, but that seems to be one of the most divisive things about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:40:35 No.34811991 Report

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>>34811746
Except it's a shitty point. How exactly is it a barren wasteland? In HGSS Kanto you can catch Legendary birds and Mewtwo, rebattle Gym Leaders, get the GS Sounds items, etc. The level curve is not an issue if you just rebattle the Gym Leaders and Trainers. On top of, y'now, being an entire second region, it's a POST game. What did you expect, it's literally the region AFTER all the exciting stuff happens in Gen 1. I will never understand this shitty meme about Gen 2 Kanto being barren.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:43:16 No.34812007 Report

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>>34811484
Normies hate Gen 5 because they can't use Pikachu and because of ice cream. That's literally it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:50:51 No.34812041 Report

Quoted By: >>34812199

>>34811770
>>34811503
It's a Kotaku article, don't give them any clicks. There were other articles, too, but the bulk of them didn't list Gen V at the bottom for such asinine reasons as 'TMs being infinite make the game easy and idk if Flamethrower should be a TM anymore'

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 15:53:42 No.34812051 Report

Quoted By: >>34812685

>>34811484
It's because of normies that we'll never ever get an entire region filled with nothing but new Pokemon. People just can't let go of the fucking past and it sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 16:31:40 No.34812199 Report

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>>34812041
Learn to pastebin that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:04:43 No.34812351 Report

Quoted By:

>>34811487
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:05:52 No.34812356 Report

Quoted By:

>>34811484
>LEEE ICE CREEEAM
>LEEE TRASH CANNN

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:07:53 No.34812362 Report

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It genuinely hurts my soul that gen 5 is as unloved as it is despite all the effort in it compared to the entire 3ds era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:24:16 No.34812442 Report

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boring pokemon
useless gadgets
extremly bad graphic design
still dont know how they could downgrade so bad from gen 4 to 5 when it comes to sprites
game looks like 160p

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:28:43 No.34812473 Report

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>>34811484
>What is your argument for why Gen 5 should be considered one of the worst gens?

-was a step back in sprites art, totally outclassed by HG/SS
-most of the new mons were a bad ripoff from previous Gens
-the region feels somehow claustrophobic and too dark, also the design was a circle
-the starters were a fucking blunder (Serperior who has the most decent design of the 3 got redeemed with the access to it's hidden ability years later)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:38:37 No.34812543 Report

Quoted By: >>34812609

>>34811539
Gen II wasn't a ton of content, but the second region FELT like it. Overall Hoenn and Sinnoh had more content in them than both the regions in GSC combined. Thankfully HGSS had a fuck ton of content to compensate.

>>34811605
They didn't fix Johto's problems (level curve, shitmons everywhere) outside of making a couple of Johtomons you couldn't get before now available in the safari zone, but they sure as hell fixed the mess that was Kanto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:52:02 No.34812609 Report

Quoted By: >>34812634

>>34812543
>level curve
I don't get this meme at all, I beat Red with a lvl 50 team, the game isn't difficult at all to make you grind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:55:17 No.34812616 Report

Quoted By: >>34812651

>>34811508
>besides shitting on the Pokemon designs, which weren't all that bad.
And really, some of them have become long-lasting fan-favorites. Look how many threads we stilk get dedicated to Galvantula, Reuniclus, Hydreigon, Serperior, etc...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 17:59:22 No.34812634 Report

Quoted By: >>34812645 >>34812698

>>34812609
>meme
The Johto half of the game is pretty infamous for it, fighting a ton of level 19/20 wild Pidgeys and underleved Rocket Grunts toward the latter half; not even the new mons you can capture can really get a ton of exp off of it, so raising something you didn't catch at the start of the game is a goddamn chore. Archer and Clair's gym at least have good levels, but there aren't enough of them worth getting the exp up of a new mon you've gotten.

Then there's that huge jump at the end of Johto. Like, holy shit, there's no reason why the trainers right before the E4 should be using level 30 unevolved mons.

Red in GSC is piss-easy though; you can beat him with a team of level 40s. Snorlax is the only real tough thing about that fight because it's Gen 2 and all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:00:39 No.34812645 Report

Quoted By: >>34812698

>>34812634
GSC really didn't handle the branching paths all that well, especially when compared to RGBY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:01:11 No.34812651 Report

Quoted By: >>34812825

>>34812616
>Look how many threads we have about Gen5 on a Gen5 sucking dick board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:06:15 No.34812685 Report

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>>34812051
At least sanmuun mixed it up with alolan forms. That way they can pander to oldfags but keep it fresh somewhat for us. I just wish they did it with all the gen1 mons in alola. When I see normal gen1 mons my brain goes into autopilot because it's the same content for like 20 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:07:19 No.34812686 Report

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>>34811484
>>Read normie article
There is your problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:07:31 No.34812687 Report

Quoted By: >>34812694

It's very telling that the people who hate on Gen 5 are either
>1: normies and genwunners who never actually played the games and just complain about ice cream
or
>2: contrarians who post shitty bait and can never actually back up their opinions with anything other than "lol it's shit" or "ice cream"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:09:16 No.34812694 Report

Quoted By:

>>34812687
What about people who has a different opinion than yours?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:10:40 No.34812698 Report

Quoted By:

>>34812634
>>34812645
All I recall is going to kanto and everything being underlevelled and I one shot basically everything.

Sun and Moon actually have reasonably challenging totem mons on occasion if you're not paying attention, I think they got the balance pretty good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:34:07 No.34812810 Report

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>>34811508
>google it
>the result that matches the OP is shitaku
wew
3 of the other results have large lists of people putting gen 5 at the middle and top (although a massive amount also put gen 7 at the top), with a shitload of those same lists throwing gen 6 and 1 to the bottom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:36:27 No.34812825 Report

Quoted By: >>34812837

>>34812651
>having shit taste
>being angry at others having better taste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 18:38:45 No.34812837 Report

Quoted By:

>>34812825
>taste posting
>angry
That wasn't the point of my post at all kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 19:09:47 No.34812999 Report

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>>34811508
Most of the designs were utter shit. You couldn't play with classic mons until postgame. There was nowhere to go after Gen 4 created the Pokémon of fucking space and time. Ice cream and a trash bag; as much as all Pokémon grow on me over time, these are ridiculous concepts. Most of the good things about the game were simple quality of life changes, and to be expected. Gen 5 was one of the worst gens, and it's a good thing I love Pokémon so much in general, or I would have dropped the fucking franchise. Literally only played it because it was there.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 19:11:33 No.34813018 Report

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Genwunners fucking ruined pokemon from having it's own identity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 19:20:55 No.34813070 Report

Quoted By:

>>34811487
other than maybe garbodor, they arent even bad. trubbish and vanillite line are cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2018 21:35:46 No.34813917 Report

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Garbodor and Vanilluxe notwithstanding, Gen 5 > Gen 7 by a long shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Feb 2018 02:34:35 No.34816060 Report

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>>34811484
No Pikachu.

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