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>>34911292
Pikachu shines in game with all of the toys it gets. It would be nice if he were viable in the metagame but I’m fine with him just being an in game bro.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 04:37:34 No.34911329 Report

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>>34911252
electrify
its real simple and extremely broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 04:55:29 No.34911416 Report

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>>34911252
It needs a niche to distinguish itself from all the other electric types in you see in OU.
All of them are special attackers, besides the rare defiant thundurus, so making it physical instead of mixed would a good start.
Take 35 from SpA and put it in attack for a total of 125. Now it can abuse extreme speed and volt tackle better. Then give it ice punch and fire punch for coverage. And SD so it can set up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 05:02:04 No.34911445 Report

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>>34911260
+40 Sp. Atk
+20 Speed
no guard
Electric/fighting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 12:48:58 No.34912696 Report

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>>34911252
+10 defense
Light ball works on it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 12:53:11 No.34912714 Report

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>>34911260
>Light Ball works on Raichu.
Have light ball double Raichu's defenses and speed.

Light ball also now double's pikachu's speed in addition to its attack stats, and boosts electric attacks like magnet would. Did I fix both shitmons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 12:57:37 No.34912735 Report

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>>34911445
>no guard
I'm too lazy, does Raichu get Focus Miss?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:16:09 No.34912779 Report

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raichu has to compete with koko, so it needs +25 special attack and the ability to use light ball at minimum

+30 SpA, +15 speed, Light Ball, No Guard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:27:36 No.34912814 Report

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>>34912735
Yes. No Guard would let it use Thunder as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:28:25 No.34912815 Report

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>>34912814
*zap Cannon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:28:40 No.34912816 Report

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>>34912714
Still has to worry about priority with it's usless bulk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:35:01 No.34912830 Report

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>>34912815
As it is ZC is only compatible with HA chu. Are we giving it No Guard as a second ability, or are we trading Lightingrod for it?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:35:51 No.34912835 Report

Quoted By: >>34914702

Click Doubles instead of Singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:45:29 No.34912870 Report

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>>34912830
just make zap cannon an egg move or something, it'd lost viability in doubles if it lost lightning rod

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:46:55 No.34912876 Report

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>>34912815
Para was nerfed tho, Thunder would probably still better

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:50:19 No.34912889 Report

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>>34912876
>120bp with 100% chance to paralyze
>110bp with 30% chance to paralyze
which is better friend?
ignoring that zap cannon is stronger, paralyze still completely cripples a lot of pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:52:19 No.34912897 Report

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>>34912889
>Zap Cannon
>120BP
u wot m9

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:54:47 No.34912904 Report

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>>34912897
zap cannon is 120 base power from gen 4 onwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 13:59:54 No.34912940 Report

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>>34912904
really? I didn't know that m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:00:09 No.34913207 Report

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>>34912940
It's understandable that it slipped under the radar. It's always been a trash gimmick move, and neither Inferno nor DPunch got buffed with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:04:36 No.34913225 Report

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>>34912830
for sake of our dreams
itll be no guard will be HA(magic guard for alola) and Zap cannon will be Egg move

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:07:50 No.34913240 Report

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>>34913207
>tfw confusion was nerfed so Guts is the best ability for Machamp
I mean I hated paraflinch/parafusion, but seeing Machamp in fuckin NU just doesn't feel right.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:24:29 No.34913303 Report

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>>34913225
>Zap cannon will be Egg move
Then you don't need to replace LR, it still has its merits even outside doubles.

>>34913240
Machamp hasn't been good for a while anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:25:44 No.34913310 Report

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>>34911252
>OU
All that matters in that shit format is high speed, special and move pool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:30:24 No.34913336 Report

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>>34913303
>Machamp hasn't been good for a while anon.
I know m8, gen4 OU was his best. And the time he won VGC but that's off-topic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:33:12 No.34913347 Report

Quoted By: >>34913357 >>34921183

>Thousand Thunders
>100 BP
>ACC: 95
>Type:Electric

A devastating bolt learned over long years at war. Ignores the Ground type, Motor Drive, LightningRod, Volt Absorb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:34:49 No.34913351 Report

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>>34913310
>high speed, special and move pool.
Ttar is still solid OU. Band-Ttar wrecks shit..

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:35:40 No.34913357 Report

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>>34913347
>Acc: 95

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:38:30 No.34913376 Report

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>>34913357
I was just thinking like Game Freak

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 15:45:06 No.34913408 Report

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>Opp has a sticky web HO team
>most of my mons are faster anyway
Isn't the point of Sticky Web to be faster than your opponent? Like what's the point if scarf Lele outspeeds you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 16:11:39 No.34913545 Report

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>>34911252
+20 Spe, +20 Sp.Atk. It has Aura Sphere and Moonblast through breeding now. If GF wanted to go balls deep Fairy or Fighting type. But it[s not gonna happen cause Raichu is perfectly viable in doubles, he has a very good comfy spot in that format. IMO he's fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 16:12:39 No.34913554 Report

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>>34911252
Ice beam would be a start

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 16:30:35 No.34913652 Report

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>>34911252
light ball working on raichu would instantly make raichu a top threat in OU, the question is just whether itd get b& or not
>558 spatk or atk with max evs and a neutral nature (jolly m-maw has 618 atk for comparison)
>lightning rod to boost for free
>good coverage options in focus blast, grass knot, and hp ice
>great speed
>boosting options in nasty plot or agility
>can even run physical/mixed to lure special walls
meanwhile
>dies to a fart
>typing only has 3 resistances (2 resistances and immunity w/lightning rod)
>light ball means it cant run scarf
it honestly probably would be banned, itd just be funny because its fucking raichu

here are some hypothetical calcs for fun
+6 252 SpA Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 580-684 (82.5 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 176 SpD Hippowdon: 214-254 (50.9 - 60.4%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 310-366 (88 - 103.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 17:27:02 No.34914051 Report

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>>34913652
252+ Atk Excadrill Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 596-704 (228.3 - 269.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu in Psychic Terrain: 318-375 (121.8 - 143.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and just for fun
+2 252 SpA Life Orb Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 200 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Magearna: 130-153 (37 - 43.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 17:31:28 No.34914093 Report

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>>34913652
light ball raichu is weaker, slower and frailer than koko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 18:22:47 No.34914387 Report

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>>34911299
>It's an early game rodent that doesn't rank for PU
gamefreak gives 0 (zero) shits about your fancic meta/tiers
and also its the fucking mascot of the franchise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 18:37:37 No.34914476 Report

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>>34914387
>thread is about these "fancic" meta/tiers
>complains about it
Might as well just complain about the thread in general

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Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 18:41:51 No.34914509 Report

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>>34911416
idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 18:49:23 No.34914554 Report

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>>34913652
>Not even the strongest electric type in OU
>banned
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 19:07:16 No.34914702 Report

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>>34912835
eww no thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2018 19:30:12 No.34914843 Report

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>>34911292
Pikachu gets tons of gimmicks every game. If it is worthless then it's not for lack of trying.

Plus your point doesn't even make sense. Charizard makes Charmeleon worthless, Kingulor makes Stingulor worthless, Dragonite makes Dragonair worthless. Why does Pikachu get to be the exception? Ryu is the mascot of Street Fighter but that doesn't make him the best character.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 00:20:37 No.34916897 Report

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>>34914509
???

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 01:28:00 No.34917414 Report

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Light Ball works on it.
And or
New Snowflake ability:
Overshock, which let's electric moves bypass typing and other abilities with a 10% boost..

It actually has workable speed.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 02:18:47 No.34917822 Report

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>>34917414
>It actually has workable speed.
110 is decent, But it's OU so most mons are either faster or bulky enough to tank a hit and just fucking kill it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 10:05:01 No.34920077 Report

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>>34914387
Your mascot is a shoehorned piece of shit that wasn't intended to be anything significant until the ashnime came along and ruined everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 15:44:10 No.34921183 Report

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>>34913347
ubers hits lando super effectively

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 15:47:14 No.34921203 Report

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>>34911292
Pikachu isn't supposed to be good, it's a middle evo, it shouldn't be any better than any other middle evo.

I hate that the anime has turned Pikachu into the ultimate shillmon, it ruins the games by association with the rat piece of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 15:52:32 No.34921229 Report

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>>34920077
>Being this stupid

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 16:18:04 No.34921375 Report

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>>34911292
Pikachu is already worthless. It's just a cutesy mascot for girls that nobody will ever use competitively. Half power light ball on Raichu sounds great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 16:31:05 No.34921410 Report

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>>34911260
Wouldn't people just give the light ball to alolan raichu and fuck the original even more ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 16:32:46 No.34921417 Report

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>>34913652
>Not just using a Modest Light Ball A-Raichu with Koko

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 17:58:46 No.34921823 Report

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>>34914387
Its still the mascot despite sucking a colossal amount of ass in battle, I don't think buffing Raichu will change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 19:40:27 No.34922363 Report

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>>34913240
But anon, Machamp isn't Nu. It's RU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 19:56:22 No.34922466 Report

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>>34914387
pikachu sucks in any format it is in, including vgc

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 21:02:34 No.34922940 Report

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>>34913652
This would be hilarious with a Nasty Plot boost.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Feb 2018 21:18:04 No.34923051 Report

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>>34911252
Just make everything else weaker, and then it's the strongest.

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