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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 01:44:50 No.35013191 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35013420 >>35013505 >>35014407 >>35014420 >>35015154 >>35015715 >>35016220 >>35016314 >>35018860 >>35022686

I miss when Pokemon games were actually difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 01:49:56 No.35013244 Report

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I dont because I like Ice types

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:07:21 No.35013420 Report

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>>35013191
Me too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:09:37 No.35013439 Report

Quoted By: >>35013463 >>35013542 >>35013589 >>35013687 >>35014137 >>35015681 >>35016185 >>35016186 >>35017151 >>35018748 >>35018924 >>35020005

the newer games really put the heat on you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:10:31 No.35013449 Report

Quoted By: >>35013513

>>35013420
Damn X/Y UI looks like THAT?

I forgot, thats so nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:12:06 No.35013463 Report

Quoted By: >>35013471 >>35013485 >>35013502 >>35014029

>>35013420
>>35013439
Yeah I play pokemon because is super challeng-
>X-Attack
>X-Defend
>X-Special
>X-Accuracy
Fucking brain dead autist I swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:13:04 No.35013471 Report

Quoted By: >>35013486

>>35013463
>not artifixially gimping yourself by electing to not use items
casul

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:14:38 No.35013485 Report

Quoted By: >>35013501 >>35013503 >>35014693

>>35013463
>use x item
>waste turn and lose >50% hp
>get outsped and lose another 50% hp

Oops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:14:40 No.35013486 Report

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>>35013471
I used to do that but it's pointless desu I just want cute mons and something to have a good time. Pokemon is comfy as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:15:43 No.35013501 Report

Quoted By: >>35013509

>>35013485
>MAX POTION
Ups lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:15:53 No.35013502 Report

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>>35013463
>Using x items before gen 7
>Using x items at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:16:06 No.35013503 Report

Quoted By: >>35013507

>>35013485
>implying
the ai has always been retarded.
They'll just spam leer 4 times in a row instead of attacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:16:27 No.35013505 Report

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>>35013191
Thank goodness some raging dumbass decided to edit this image, I would have NEVER noticed that Rhydon had both Leer and Tail Whip!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:16:30 No.35013506 Report

Quoted By: >>35013774 >>35013798

>>35013420
>Enemy Blastoise used Blizzard!
>Critical Hit!
>x is frozen solid!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:16:45 No.35013507 Report

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>>35013503
>its defense can't go any lower!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:17:04 No.35013509 Report

Quoted By: >>35013523 >>35013548

>>35013501
>lose 50% hp again
>get outsped and lose another 50% hp

Oops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:17:32 No.35013513 Report

Quoted By: >>35013698

>>35013449
I'll never get why GF felt the need to add a bunch of silly graphics all around the UI after XY

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:18:47 No.35013523 Report

Quoted By: >>35013631

>>35013509
>X-Speed
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:20:59 No.35013542 Report

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>>35013439
he just wanted to dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:22:07 No.35013548 Report

Quoted By: >>35013569

>>35013509
>Not having the money to buy dozens of the current best hp item to easily stall out any move
what are you? a poorfag?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:25:26 No.35013569 Report

Quoted By: >>35013599 >>35014349

>>35013548
>Gen 1 enemies don't have PP so you can't stall them out
truly the hardest games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:27:02 No.35013589 Report

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>>35013439
Imagine tierno punishing roserade everytime it used a move that wasnt petal dance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:28:40 No.35013599 Report

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>>35013569
>other fag starts with a special attack mon
>with the second X-Special he doesn't do more damage
>start boosting my attack
Easy. Game. You can't discuss because it's the truth singleplayer is broken

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:32:35 No.35013631 Report

Quoted By: >>35013638

>>35013523
That doesn't fix it either though. Wasting a turn to use an X-anything is usually not worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:33:37 No.35013638 Report

Quoted By: >>35013732 >>35016020 >>35016876

>>35013631
You're one of the aspie fucks who thinks Swords Dance is a waste of a turn because "lol I could just attack twice" aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:43:06 No.35013687 Report

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>>35013439
i wanted to fix his team and all but you battle him just after shauna without heal

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:45:36 No.35013698 Report

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>>35013513
I thought the little stroke of paint used with the vanilla S/M HP bars and other elements was cute and looked a lot nicer than boring old dark grey rectangles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:51:04 No.35013732 Report

Quoted By: >>35013750

>>35013638
I was going to say that it only raises 1 stage while SD raises 2
But I looked it up to be sure and in gen 7 X-Boosts raises 2 stages too, what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:54:19 No.35013750 Report

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>>35013732
usum also gave you rotom boosts, so x boosts are still largely useless
still good for speed runs... though I don't know who would want to go through the 5-6 hours of pain that would be an usum speedrun

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 02:57:56 No.35013774 Report

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>>35013506
>78 base speed
>landing crits
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:00:07 No.35013798 Report

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>>35013506
>blizzard
>hitting my double team mon
First gen is retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:30:32 No.35014029 Report

Quoted By: >>35015053

>>35013463
X items are only for selling for a quick buck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:37:30 No.35014109 Report

Quoted By: >>35014170 >>35014172 >>35014867 >>35015181 >>35020654

I don't know, Ultra Necrozma actually requires you to put some thought into fighting it. Unless you're cheesy enough to do the Zoroark trick you can't really do the whole "just hit it with damage moves until it dies" thing because it will actually outdamage you and take down your entire team.

I'd say the USUM is probably the most challenging in the series. Closest thing to it is fighting Brock in Yellow Version, since you can't just rape it with your starter like in RBG (even Charmander beats him because Geodude and Onix have piss-poor special). In Yellow you have to either level up a Mankey or Nidoran or something, and Mankey is easy to miss and Nidoran needs a bit of leveling, or send out Suicide Rattatas to spam Tail Whip until his defense is shit so you can bust him up with NVE Normal attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:40:51 No.35014137 Report

Quoted By: >>35014305

>>35013439

Oh, that's a fair comparison: one game's Champion vs. another game's dance-obsessed joke character who's supposed to be a bad Trainer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:44:20 No.35014170 Report

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>>35014109
>Golisopod used first impression!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:44:31 No.35014172 Report

Quoted By: >>35016199

>>35014109
I agree that the Ultra Necrozma bit in USUM was pretty difficult - shoot, I'll admit that it took me a good number of tries - but let us not forget just how 'hand-holdy' USUM was in every conceivable way. Ultra Necrozma was the only part that was even remotely challenging and there was never a part in the entire game that came close.
t. guy who beat USUM yesterday

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:46:40 No.35014197 Report

Quoted By: >>35020109 >>35020125

>>35013420
>Challenging

>Psychic sweep
>x accuracy OHKO
>ToxicSeed
>High Speed permacrit
>Easiset overleveled sweeper

I finished US with an actual team that was about the same level of my opponents. I actually had to look at type matchups and use prediction instead of lazily spam slash / horn drill / psychic until things died

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:47:34 No.35014205 Report

Quoted By: >>35014272 >>35015198

i also wish when they were hard

John Gamefreak

John Gamefreak Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:54:52 No.35014272 Report

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>>35014205
I beat her with an Ice Punch Lopunny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 03:58:21 No.35014305 Report

Quoted By: >>35014629 >>35016882

>>35014137
it's absolutely fair to compare the earliest entry in the series with one of the most recent if they both have the same faults after two decades

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:02:20 No.35014349 Report

Quoted By: >>35014391 >>35016295

>>35013569
Sending a level 3 Oddish against Lance's Dragonite will 100% force him to spam a super effective psychic-type Agility with endless PP. Hardest games indeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:06:48 No.35014391 Report

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>>35014349
When could Oddish learn Leech Seed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:08:09 No.35014407 Report

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>>35013191
So in some other time line?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:09:39 No.35014420 Report

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>>35013191
>miss my retard self kid

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:40:01 No.35014629 Report

Quoted By: >>35014667

>>35014305
>blue
>final boss
>tierno
>some random dude

>ARR ROOK SAME!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:45:44 No.35014667 Report

Quoted By: >>35014694

>>35014629
Good job entirely missing the point.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:49:25 No.35014693 Report

Quoted By: >>35014720

>>35013485
>X Def/SpDEf
>Lose majority of HP
Why would you ever be that much underleveled?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:49:31 No.35014694 Report

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>>35014667
Your """""""point""""""" was that a random dude was equivalent to a final boss, which only makes gen 1's final boss look pathetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:53:05 No.35014713 Report

Quoted By: >>35017203

if today you dl a rom and play yellow, would you find it difficult?
no you won't
cuz its not the games that changed

its you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 04:54:56 No.35014720 Report

Quoted By: >>35014799

>>35014693
Because gen 1 is actually balanced in terms of level scaling while gen 6 isn't.

Have you actually finished a gen 1 game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:06:27 No.35014799 Report

Quoted By: >>35014850

>>35014720
>Because gen 1 is actually balanced in terms of level scaling
>that spike from VR trainers to Lorelei

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:15:46 No.35014850 Report

Quoted By: >>35014861 >>35014983

>>35014799
Yes. That's why it's balanced. E4 trainers are supposed to be harder you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:17:48 No.35014861 Report

Quoted By: >>35014888 >>35014894

>>35014850
This is your brain on nostalgia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:18:28 No.35014867 Report

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>>35014109
>not using Pyukumuku
yall don't know shit about anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:23:05 No.35014888 Report

Quoted By: >>35014903

>>35014861
this is your child when losing an argument on the net.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:24:01 No.35014894 Report

Quoted By: >>35014903

>>35014861
It's true though. Has nothing to do with nostalgia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:25:32 No.35014903 Report

Quoted By: >>35014914

>>35014894
>>35014888
Samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:27:17 No.35014914 Report

Quoted By: >>35014918

>>35014903
cry off your tears, than grow up and admit your mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:28:34 No.35014918 Report

Quoted By: >>35014923 >>35014927

>>35014914
>battle items
>So hard omg!
Cry more autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:29:43 No.35014923 Report

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>>35014918
>battle items
>get KO'd anyway because you're 10 levels under the NPC
cry more autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:30:56 No.35014927 Report

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>>35014918
>limited money
>no pp restoration
anyway, didn't you just agree spike was proof its unbalanced?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:40:10 No.35014983 Report

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>>35014850
Wouldn't a "balanced" level curve be that the enemies are always just slightly above you in terms of power? In that sense, the E4 being the strongest trainers is a justification for unbalanced level scaling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:44:48 No.35015002 Report

Quoted By: >>35015013 >>35015028

>>35013420
You can act like this matters all you want, but last time I played Red I steamrolled the E4 with a team in their 40s.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:46:16 No.35015013 Report

Quoted By: >>35015028

>>35015002
You don't even need a full team in their 40s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:48:42 No.35015028 Report

Quoted By: >>35015035 >>35015059 >>35015104

>>35015002
>>35015013
and it was still more chalanging than later gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:50:00 No.35015035 Report

Quoted By: >>35015049

>>35015028
It wasn't any more or less challenging. Once you understand the game's mechanics, it becomes a cakewalk. I ended up finishing the champion with an underleveled Farfetch'd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:52:46 No.35015049 Report

Quoted By: >>35015064

>>35015035
it was less more chalanging because you had to rely on items. the more items you need to rely on, the more chalanging it was since you needed to use something your enemy had no access to in order to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:53:16 No.35015053 Report

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>>35014029
>SD on demand is only good for selling for a quick buck
k

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:53:52 No.35015059 Report

Quoted By: >>35015077

>>35015028
The AI being so retarded that it spams moves that do nothing over and over isn't much challening than later gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:54:38 No.35015064 Report

Quoted By: >>35015077

>>35015049
It gets Agility and Slash. Those are good enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 05:56:07 No.35015077 Report

Quoted By: >>35015190

>>35015059
you needed the x-items to win? did lance use them as well? no? thought so.

>>35015064
farfetched is good enough for ou in my eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:00:47 No.35015104 Report

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>>35015028
t. never played a game beyond genwun/hasn't played rby since he was a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:06:19 No.35015141 Report

Quoted By: >>35015198 >>35015708

>>35013420
>gardevoir used moonblast!

Protip: stats are more important than levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:08:21 No.35015154 Report

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>>35013191
It's for kids, and kids are stupid.

Anybody who claims the original games were popular with kids is brainwashed. Pokemon was never popular. /vp/ doesn't even exist,
and this is all a dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:11:14 No.35015181 Report

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>>35014109
I mean, is it really so hard if there's an incredibly easy set of strategies you can pull off? The game dumps a lot of tools on your shoes. It's not really difficult at that point, I'd say.

Like, you could
>Focus Sash Toxic
>Focus Sash Perish Song
>Zoroark cheese
>spam X-items
>spam Roto-boosts with a Dark-type
>abuse exp share
To be fair, you can deal with any battle in the series in a way similar to this. I guess it's extra difficult for nuzlockes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:11:44 No.35015190 Report

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>>35015077
>muh self imposed challenges
You are a walking meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 06:12:51 No.35015198 Report

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>>35015141
Shockingly so, a well placed leer and sand attack can cripple brocks onyx
>>35014205
I've seen harder in Pokemon stadium
Fuck mewstor!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 08:24:28 No.35015681 Report

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>>35013439
>Dancing motif
>big regional pokedex
>no fucking Ludicolo with rain dance and rain dish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 08:32:37 No.35015708 Report

Quoted By: >>35016599

>>35015141
>stats are more important than the thing that give pokemon higher stats

ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 08:35:23 No.35015715 Report

Quoted By:

>>35013191
go play SMT then.
Pokemon is for babbies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 09:34:56 No.35015976 Report

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>>35013420
nice bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 09:38:14 No.35015987 Report

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>>35013420
god, Blastoise looks like a brapping fat fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 09:46:34 No.35016020 Report

Quoted By: >>35017125 >>35019895

>>35013638
There's never a time in-game where using a turn of SD is better than just attacking twice. If you're gonna win in two turns anyway, attacking twice is literally no different than SD + attack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:15:44 No.35016185 Report

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>>35013439
At least all of them have at least one STAB, not something that can be said of Blue’s Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:16:08 No.35016186 Report

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>>35013439
>One move. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:19:21 No.35016199 Report

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>>35014172
Totem Araquanid? Sure it’s beatable but it can be challenging without the right team.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:22:34 No.35016220 Report

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>>35013191
Pokemon games were never difficult.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:31:04 No.35016295 Report

Quoted By: >>35016302

>>35014349
nevar 4get

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:31:51 No.35016302 Report

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>>35016295
>ywn be that dragonite

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 10:32:53 No.35016314 Report

Quoted By: >>35016985 >>35019260

>>35013191

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 11:24:23 No.35016581 Report

Quoted By: >>35016903

>>35013420
>he plays with the experience share on

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 11:28:05 No.35016599 Report

Quoted By: >>35016617

>>35015708
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 11:33:00 No.35016617 Report

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>>35016599
I want Gardevoir's Moonblast

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 12:43:12 No.35016876 Report

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>>35013638
Most of the time it is. Most trainers don't have enough Pokemon to make boosting moves worth using.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 12:44:17 No.35016882 Report

Quoted By: >>35016968

>>35014305
>same faults
So Gen 1 champion was intentionally bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 12:50:53 No.35016903 Report

Quoted By:

>>35016581
>he plays the game slower
something taking longer doesn't make it harder

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:10:33 No.35016968 Report

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>>35016882
might as well have been with movesets like those

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:14:58 No.35016985 Report

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>>35016314
>issue persists all the way to gen 7
nice game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:26:35 No.35017040 Report

Quoted By: >>35017056

I think it's because older gens didn't hold your hand so much. It's not that the games are difficult, it's that they have more "gotcha" moments if that makes any sense. Like on SS Anne if you were fighting the trainers on the boat and then turned the corner to visit the Captains Office then you were greeted by Dicks Oak. And your first time through you have no reason to think he might be there. So if you weren't prepared you might have had a hard time him especially if you were 8. Whitney is another example. Whitney's Miltank is most known for her Attract + Stomp moveset. Because up until that point you had NO REASON AT ALL to gender check any of your Pokemon. And with 100 base speed its very easy for her to use attract and stick you in a loop of attract paralysis and stomp flinches. Once again not difficult to deal with but if you're 8 then this might have been a problem for you.

As the series has gone on there has been less gotcha moments since the series is really afraid of alienating anyone. Even if Champion Dicks had a shit moveset, just the virtue of the fact that there was one more battle you didn't expect or plan for might have caused a problem or two. Especially since he doesn't just have one type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:30:17 No.35017056 Report

Quoted By: >>35017088

>>35017040
>not having asspull BS is handholding

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:37:01 No.35017088 Report

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>>35017056
Not really. Like I said the fights themselves are not difficult. They only become difficult from lack of preparation or playing on autopilot. Two things that 8 year olds excel at. If you have good team balance and a decent supply of items then you can push through. Something that you SHOULD be doing anyway.

But new games don't advocate that. Have you been running through a long route with almost no supplies and with a single Pokemon that's been worn down? No problem because your rival that's waiting at the midpoint will heal your team for you before you battle. And then will give you not only money but super powerful items early in the game for winning the battle that was pretty much designed for you to win. I feel like if I make blatantly bad decisions I should lose but I feel like even if that 8 year old makes every wrong decision possible the game would make sure that he still wins. And at that point whats the point of the game at all?

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:48:51 No.35017125 Report

Quoted By: >>35018525

>>35016020
>Trainer has 4 Pokemon
>Each requiring 2 turns to kill meaning 4 attacks minimum your Pokemon will take, which may require use of an item to heal when the fight is over
>Use SD once at the beginning of the battle
>2HKOs are now OHKOs because the opponent has no chance to act at all and you don't have to use an item at the end of the battle because you took 1 hit instead of 4

Boosting moves are useless guys!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 13:52:48 No.35017151 Report

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>>35013439
It just triggers me that Talonflame and Crawdaunt have fuck all to do with dancing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 14:04:38 No.35017203 Report

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>>35014713
Ha! Check out this fucking nerd using its brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 18:13:51 No.35018519 Report

Quoted By: >>35018528

I've been playing since RBY and I wiped to Totem Wishiwashi, Lurantis and Mimikyu. Totem fights are a step in the right direction as far as challenging gameplay goes, also Guzma was fucking hard too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 18:16:11 No.35018525 Report

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>>35017125
>Trainer having 4 pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 18:17:14 No.35018528 Report

Quoted By: >>35020597

>>35018519
Totems >>>>>>Gym Leaders. The problems with Gym Leaders is that even though they've bosses they're EXACTLY THE SAME as normal trainer NPCs. The only difference is that they're maybe 3 - 5 levels above the level curve, maybe. Totem Pokemon actually do things that you might have to work around assuming you're not like 5 levels above the curve.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 18:57:56 No.35018748 Report

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>>35013439
>Quick attack on Talonflame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:04:12 No.35018781 Report

Quoted By: >>35018785 >>35018788

Older gens were all easier because of the badge boost
gen 4, particularly cynthia, was way harder than anything else prior because you didn't have a 10-12% boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:05:09 No.35018785 Report

Quoted By: >>35018805

>>35018781
>muh badge boost

oh look, it's this faggot again. A 1.1x multiplier barely matters you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:05:34 No.35018788 Report

Quoted By: >>35018805

>>35018781
Cynthia had garbage AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:08:02 No.35018805 Report

Quoted By: >>35018812 >>35018831

>>35018785
It makes it easier, there's no denying that

>>35018788
she also had stronger pokemon and you have weaker ones than any other champion fight until this point

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:09:12 No.35018812 Report

Quoted By: >>35018827

>>35018805
>It makes it easier,

Not in any meaningful or significant way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:12:00 No.35018827 Report

Quoted By: >>35018850

>>35018812
that's untrue, 10% can easily make your pokemon outspeed the opponent and turn 2hkos into 1hkos
there's a reason people use natures to their advantage for 10% more of the stat they want

the badge boost totally affects game difficulty, and results in easier games

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:12:23 No.35018831 Report

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>>35018805
Cynthia was an easy fight just as any other game. She consistently used random NVE moves for no reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:15:20 No.35018850 Report

Quoted By: >>35018861

>>35018827
>that's untrue, 10% can easily make your pokemon outspeed the opponent

So can natures. Who gives a fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:17:37 No.35018860 Report

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>>35013191
Here are all the competitve sets for all the Pokemon on Blue's Team in gen 1.
Exeggutor
- Sleep Powder
- Psychic
- Explosion
- Stun Spore
Pidgeot
- Double-Edge
- Hyper Beam
- Mimic
- Mirror Move
Alakazam
- Psychic
- Recover
- Thunder Wave
- Reflect
Gyarados
- Blizzard/Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Body Slam
- Hyper Beam
Rhydon
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Substitute
- Body Slam
Charizard
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Body Slam
Blastoise
- Surf
- Blizzard
- Body Slam
- Mimic
Venusaur
- Razor Leaf
- Sleep Powder
- Swords Dance
- Body Slam
We have these threads bi-weekly and every time I have to tell you faggots that moves and Pokemon weren't fucking Secret Sword, Boomburst, Geomancy, Brave Bird, or Stealth Rock and not every Pokemon had duel STABs with minimal resistances.
Also you faggots seem to forget that most of these moves were nerfed after Gen 1 and you also forget that these teams are for ingame too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:17:41 No.35018861 Report

Quoted By: >>35018879

>>35018850
Yes that's what I just said, 10% can definitely make a difference in a game about numbers
The badge boost is really just like doing extra grinding before each boss so you're higher level, there's no way that isn't easier than not having it

the early games were the easy ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:21:09 No.35018879 Report

Quoted By: >>35018965

>>35018861
>10% can definitely make a difference in a game about numbers
It almost never makes a difference.

>the early games were the easy ones
No because the level scaling was more balanced in earlier games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:21:27 No.35018881 Report

Quoted By: >>35018911

Regarding badge boosts, GSC also had another set of 9/8x boosts for moves of the badges' types. If you had the stat boost and type boost together, that's almost a free Life Orb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:26:03 No.35018911 Report

Quoted By: >>35018927 >>35019094

>>35018881
And yet shitters on this board still complain about GSC being difficult because of muh level curve. It's almost as if it doesn't matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:28:37 No.35018924 Report

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>>35013439
>the anime does his team better thematically than the game does
>Roserade only has 1 move
>you can beat his entire team with a Sap Sipper Stantler that knowsThunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:28:57 No.35018927 Report

Quoted By: >>35019123

>>35018911
The level curve doesn't make GSC hard. It does the opposite because the entirety of Kanto is barely higher than the Elite Four.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:34:44 No.35018965 Report

Quoted By: >>35019123

>>35018879
gen 1 and 3 had no better scaling than dppt (and probably even easier, mind you), but gen 2 was definitely not the case

I don't know why you're denying it, because the numbers don't lie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:52:06 No.35019094 Report

Quoted By: >>35019123

>>35018911
People complain about the levels being a joke, not “difficult”.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 19:54:37 No.35019123 Report

Quoted By: >>35019214

>>35018927
>>35019094
>The level curve doesn't make GSC hard.
Yes it does, considering all the shitters who complain about needing to grind.

>>35018965
>and probably even easier
But they weren't. In gen 2 it was the case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 20:08:04 No.35019214 Report

Quoted By:

>>35019123
gen 4 had very similar level curve to gen 1 and 3 but gen 2 was a mess and not the least bit challenging (as far as level curve goes)
what are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 20:15:52 No.35019260 Report

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>>35016314
Full team Adamant 252 evs in 2 stats and 31 ivs

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 21:54:58 No.35019895 Report

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>>35016020
>If you're gonna win in two turns anyway, attacking twice is literally no different than SD + attack.
one swords dance at the start of the battle turns all of the 2 hit kills into one hit kills.

Sure, if you're fighting just one pokemon its a waste of a turn even though both options give the exact same result anyway, but if your opponent has any more than 2 pokemon you're speeding up the battle by a tonne

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 22:12:25 No.35020005 Report

Quoted By:

>>35013439

its like a pseudo choice item?
forces de AI to go always with a strong attack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 22:30:02 No.35020109 Report

Quoted By:

>>35014197
>I had to look at type matchups
I do not believe you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 22:32:32 No.35020125 Report

Quoted By:

>>35014197
>Had to look at type match ups
>When the game just tells you what's super effective and what's not

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:25:33 No.35020537 Report

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>Pokemon was ever hard

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:27:23 No.35020552 Report

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>Pokemon was ever hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:32:58 No.35020597 Report

Quoted By: >>35020623

>>35018528
>The problems with Gym Leaders is that even though they've bosses they're EXACTLY THE SAME as normal trainer NPCs
Wrong, their AI is better. They're almost certain to use SE moves, for one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:35:59 No.35020619 Report

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Reminder that Pokemon will NEVER be hard till 3x3 or more battles become the norm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:36:58 No.35020623 Report

Quoted By: >>35020735

>>35020597
>their AI is better

So basically they're just clinically retarded instead of straight up braindead. The AI means nothing in Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:41:49 No.35020654 Report

Quoted By:

>>35014109
Totem Togedemaru is a cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:50:24 No.35020735 Report

Quoted By: >>35022643

>>35020623
It's an easy game for kids
If you want a challenge, start with Nuzlockes and go from there

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:24:19 No.35022643 Report

Quoted By: >>35022669

>>35020735
xD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:28:18 No.35022669 Report

Quoted By:

>>35022643
I'm not joking
Tune the game for 25yo autists and lose the kid playerbase

C64 Dude !!7G1N4D90n6R

C64 Dude !!7G1N4D90n6R Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:30:22 No.35022686 Report

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>>35013191
It's a kid's game, obviously they are going to make it easy.

If it was then the biggest part of their target audience would lose interest in the game.

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