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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:37:50 No.35020626 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35020636 >>35020733 >>35020777 >>35020807 >>35020812 >>35022279 >>35022374 >>35024193 >>35025046 >>35027154

why is OU so shit. what is GF gonna do next gen to fuck it up even more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:39:08 No.35020636 Report

Quoted By: >>35020668 >>35022593 >>35022700 >>35022960 >>35022973 >>35023828 >>35024175 >>35025212

>>35020626
Don't blame gf blame smogon. Pokemon are designed to be balanced for vgc doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:43:18 No.35020668 Report

Quoted By: >>35026574

>>35020636
Pokemon are designed to be either fucking awful, even in the main game, or minmaxed abominations that destroy anything the main games toss at you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:50:03 No.35020733 Report

Quoted By: >>35020834 >>35022552

>>35020626
Play doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:53:46 No.35020777 Report

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>>35020626
it was so based when it first came out with pheromosa and lele rampant

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:56:02 No.35020807 Report

Quoted By: >>35022294 >>35025730

>>35020626
Use the image I made, faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:56:28 No.35020812 Report

Quoted By: >>35022375 >>35022407

>>35020626
Don't know, but I'm fucking stoked, I just hope it dethrones land. Like maybe a good ice type, ie reasonable speed tier, solid enough defenses, and recovery.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:56:34 No.35020813 Report

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Maybe it's just me, but personally, I have felt that Z Moves have made thos Gens OU really fun, and I feel like a lot more things are usable the ORAS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Mar 2018 23:58:16 No.35020834 Report

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>>35020733
Lando-T is still the king. STAB EQ, Intimidate, high base attack, this fucking genie has everything for every play style that doesn't involve Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:27:09 No.35022279 Report

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>>35020626
Give lando Roost and DD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:29:08 No.35022294 Report

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>>35020807
What type/ability?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:33:09 No.35022311 Report

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auto trickroom

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:41:46 No.35022362 Report

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>>35022294
Type: Water/Ground
Ability: Fur Coat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:44:42 No.35022374 Report

Quoted By: >>35022598

>>35020626
Z-Fly Lando-T, Toxapex, and Tapu Lele
Magearna isn't that bad, and is only seeing so much popularity because it's an answer to Lele that is simultaneously threatening offensively.

Lando-T wasn't as bad last gen since you could send in most Grass types that could shrug off a U-Turn to deal with it. Now people have to run Zapdos or Rotom-W, former which gets busted by it actually being Stone Edge/Z and latter which gets worn down so easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:44:51 No.35022375 Report

Quoted By: >>35023077

>>35020812
Cryogonal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:49:33 No.35022407 Report

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>>35020812
the only way to dethrone lando t is by making something that does almost everything lando t does, but better

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 02:58:48 No.35022466 Report

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>>35022407
Literally impossible without giving Gliscor Thousand Arrows

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:12:51 No.35022544 Report

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>>35022407
the only way to dethrone lando is by nerfing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:14:05 No.35022552 Report

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>>35020733
disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:19:30 No.35022593 Report

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>>35020636
exactly,
when will people relise GF doesn't give a shit about your tiers and make belief bullshit?
quit playing smogon and play how it's actually officially meant to be played

I guess people enjoy being restricted by made up bs rules and a format that bans everything

>in before but i like singles 6v6 hour long stall battle bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:20:07 No.35022598 Report

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>>35022374
Only 8% of lando run Z fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:21:11 No.35022614 Report

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>>35022593
verlify is that you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:25:00 No.35022648 Report

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>>35022593
GF doesn't give a shit about doubles either

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:31:34 No.35022695 Report

Quoted By: >>35023286

>>35022598
8% of Lando's usage is more than the amount of usage Garchomp gets in the tier, and that's still an OU mon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:32:09 No.35022700 Report

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>>35020636
VGC is shit too though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:40:48 No.35022768 Report

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Remove intimidate, -15 speed

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 03:44:31 No.35022803 Report

Quoted By: >>35023032

>giving a shit about smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:04:11 No.35022932 Report

Quoted By: >>35022953

> official competitive format is doubles
> 95% of all battles ouside gen 3 are singles.

What did gf mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:08:31 No.35022953 Report

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>>35022932
B-but anon, GF doesn't care about singles at all!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:09:25 No.35022960 Report

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>>35020636
>Pokemon are designed to be balanced for vgc doubles
Doubles is barely hanging on by a thread in terms of balance as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:11:01 No.35022973 Report

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>>35020636
>Don't blame gf blame smogon.
this.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:17:42 No.35023032 Report

Quoted By: >>35023080

>>35022803
>giving a shit about competitive pokemon in general

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:23:50 No.35023077 Report

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>>35022375
70/50 is not reasonable physical bulk. I'll accept 70/70 and access to scald and even then the rest of the board will dismiss it as less than reasonable physical bulk, and they're kind of right.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:24:21 No.35023080 Report

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>>35023032
>giving a shit about pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:24:52 No.35023086 Report

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>>35022598
Fuck that, be a man and run scarf fly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:35:06 No.35023156 Report

Quoted By: >>35023660

>>35023080
>giving a shit about video games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 04:53:34 No.35023286 Report

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>>35022695
cuckchomp has no business in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 05:50:18 No.35023627 Report

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>>35022294
>Ground/Poison
>Ability: Auto-Stealth Rocks + Regenerator
>HP: 89
>Atk: 145
>Def: 152
>Sp. Atk: 105
>Sp. Def: 142
>Spe: 35

Gets Scald, U-turn, Knock Off, Toxic, Recover, King's Shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 05:52:22 No.35023643 Report

Quoted By: >>35024609

>>35023086
>not double dance power herb fly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 05:56:02 No.35023660 Report

Quoted By: >>35026752

>>35023156
>giving a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:00:34 No.35023680 Report

Quoted By: >>35023690 >>35023730

Drop Reshiram to OU and Lando gets dethroned as the centralizer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:02:05 No.35023686 Report

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>>35022294
>faggotry attraction

only faggots use it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:02:44 No.35023690 Report

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>>35023680
lando isn't centralizing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:13:14 No.35023730 Report

Quoted By: >>35023738 >>35023741

>>35023680
Pretty much every Ubermon barring Blazekin would run over OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:15:18 No.35023738 Report

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>>35023730
>barring blaziken
Nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:15:47 No.35023741 Report

Quoted By: >>35023745 >>35023768

>>35023730
Blaziken would too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:16:24 No.35023745 Report

Quoted By: >>35023753

>>35023738
>>35023741
BLAZEkin, I misspelt that on purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:19:53 No.35023753 Report

Quoted By: >>35023820

>>35023745
Yeah and Kyogre with 0 ivs, toxic orb, and no water moves would be fine in OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:24:02 No.35023768 Report

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>>35023741
How would 120/110/80 overrun a tier, when Greninja has 95/103/122 and the ability to become a still-not-broken form, with 145/153/132 offenses?
Plus, Kyurem Black has 170 attack, and it barely is OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:25:35 No.35023773 Report

Quoted By: >>35023790

>>35023768
Speed Boost + SD means all it has to do is not get OHKO then sweep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:25:54 No.35023779 Report

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>>35023768
When I wrote that post I didn't know the mispelling was intentional so I assumed he meant Speed Boost Blaziken. Without Speed Boost it'd drop to NU but since Smogon doesn't want to do complex bans they just banned it altogether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:29:59 No.35023790 Report

Quoted By: >>35023806 >>35023930

>>35023773
If it had priority, Blaziken might win, but this is just from a Water Shuriken.
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Water Shuriken (20 BP) (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Blaziken: 450-528 (149.5 - 175.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Don't even mention hydro pump.
I just got lazy and changed the SpA stat to normal Greninja levels.
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Water Shuriken (20 BP) (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Blaziken: 342-402 (113.6 - 133.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:34:03 No.35023800 Report

Quoted By: >>35024665

>>35022362
>not Sap Sipper

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:36:00 No.35023806 Report

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>>35023790
Cool 1 pokemon who can't even switch into Blaziken can revenge kill it. I guess Snugglekyu can too so you better run both of them on every team to deal with blaze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:40:11 No.35023820 Report

Quoted By: >>35023857

>>35023753
>muh slippery slope
They do complex bans all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:41:49 No.35023828 Report

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>>35020636
VGC is literally even worse, every competitive team is identical you mong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 06:50:39 No.35023857 Report

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>>35023820
nice meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 07:13:29 No.35023930 Report

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>>35023790
>has one check after said check has gotten a KO
wooooooow

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 08:44:38 No.35024175 Report

Quoted By: >>35024184

>>35020636
what? Pokemon aren't balanced in any way anywhere.
How get people to say things like this? Are you even playing Pokemon?
GF obviously doesn't know how to balance the game and things like mega-evolution and Z-attacks show they are after cheap effects to impress children but not after fixing their meta.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 08:48:08 No.35024184 Report

Quoted By: >>35024734 >>35026077

>>35024175
>meta with ubers avaliable
>still gets more variety than OU
LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 08:51:29 No.35024192 Report

Quoted By: >>35024932

Stop playing by smogon tiers and rules you sheep

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 08:52:22 No.35024193 Report

Quoted By: >>35024199

>>35020626
>what is GF gonna do next gen to fuck it up even more?
h8 to break it to you chief...

smogon fucks their own shit

GF has nothing to do with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 08:55:52 No.35024199 Report

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>>35024193
>GF has nothing to do with it
They design their games. they create broken monsters. They let the fans sort it out.

so yes. GF has EVERYTHING to do with it. faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 11:47:32 No.35024596 Report

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>>35023086
That is the answer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 11:50:46 No.35024609 Report

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>>35023643
Meant to respond to this, this is actually the answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 12:03:49 No.35024665 Report

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>>35023800
Lando-T still has a 4x ice weakness

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 12:22:57 No.35024734 Report

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>>35024184
OU haz plenty of variety

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 12:34:39 No.35024801 Report

Quoted By: >>35025016

Just use choice scarf Aurorus. Nuke Lando with Blizzard or Toxapex with Erarth power/thunderbolt

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 13:02:23 No.35024932 Report

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>>35024192
Anything Goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 13:22:33 No.35025016 Report

Quoted By: >>35025024

>>35024801
You know how little non-Stab T-Bolt/Earth Power do to Toxapex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 13:24:18 No.35025024 Report

Quoted By: >>35025131 >>35027006

>>35025016
Pex is usually built as a physical tank, not a special one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 13:29:16 No.35025046 Report

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>>35020626
well, they havent introduced super abilities yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 13:49:52 No.35025131 Report

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>>35025024
are you absolutely certain about that dogshit you just spewed right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 14:11:28 No.35025212 Report

Quoted By: >>35025228

>>35020636
this, smogon needs to suspect test toxapex and ash-gren. Literally no reason not to do it, if they're not broken then they won't get banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 14:16:53 No.35025228 Report

Quoted By: >>35026940

>>35025212
under this argument, why not just suspect test EVERY monster. Literally no reason not to, right? Just telling us what we already know.

except, you know, this takes up the valuable time of people who literally do this for free. We got better shit to do than to placate every nerd with an opinion. Especially uninformed nerds that don't even play the format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 15:43:24 No.35025648 Report

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Honestly, if we don't do something, the entire meta could revolve around Landorus.
Oh wait, it already does.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 16:05:22 No.35025730 Report

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>>35020807

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 17:23:42 No.35026077 Report

Quoted By: >>35026098

>>35024184
The most overused OU Pokemon is only at 50%~ usage and is used on multiple different teams since it is a jack of all trades
VGC had primals everywhere when they were allowed, Intimidaters, and some type of supporter, with all matches lasting about 5 turns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 17:27:27 No.35026098 Report

Quoted By: >>35026158 >>35026263

>>35026077
How is >50% usage not worrying you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 17:43:22 No.35026158 Report

Quoted By: >>35026200

>>35026098
A. Other metas in the past had it much worse than today
B. I care more about team diversity rather than individual Pokemon
C. It's still not as bad as VGC's usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 17:50:30 No.35026200 Report

Quoted By: >>35026239

>>35026158
delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 17:56:26 No.35026239 Report

Quoted By: >>35026304

>>35026200
Apparently facts are delusional
Tell me again how common everything but HO with or w/out weather/terrain

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:01:00 No.35026263 Report

Quoted By: >>35026418 >>35026637

>>35026098

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:08:12 No.35026304 Report

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>>35026239
that was years ago retard not the current vgc meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:15:44 No.35026361 Report

Quoted By: >>35026373

>>35022593
>complains smogon bans everything
>VGCucks just accept that Cosmog and Phione are banned in the official format

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:17:43 No.35026373 Report

Quoted By: >>35026383

>>35026361
>Cosmogcuck complaining that he cant use hisa shitmon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:20:15 No.35026383 Report

Quoted By: >>35026435

>>35026373
>VGCuck complaining he cannot use broken shit

get good faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:23:11 No.35026402 Report

Quoted By: >>35026427

Also VGCucks:

>SMOGON BANS EVERYTHING!!!
>new VGC season opens, only pokémon in the Alola Dex because FUCK IT WE WANT IT TO BE ALOLADEX ONLY no particular reason, purely arbitrary
>VGCucks scream in joy that GF daddy once again put unreasonable restraints on teambuilding
>Cosmog is still banned even though it is an Aloladex mon
>Scyther still allowed in official LC tournaments

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:26:13 No.35026418 Report

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>>35026263
The game's decentralization went well, then notice the spike of Lando-T usage from Gen6 to Gen7

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:28:06 No.35026427 Report

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>>35026402
lmao smogoncucks absoluley seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:29:13 No.35026435 Report

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>>35026383
>cosmog
>good
pick one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:32:23 No.35026460 Report

Quoted By: >>35026788

GF doesn’t give a shit about your playground game mode. They do shit the way they want to do it. Smogon will never be seen in any significant way by GF. Accept it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:44:18 No.35026520 Report

Quoted By: >>35026642

>low elo shitter complaining about smogon AGAIN
Christ, lando isn’t hard to counter and pex is an absolute joke if you run anything electric type. Learn to play, faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 18:53:55 No.35026574 Report

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>>35020668
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:06:48 No.35026637 Report

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>>35026263
That image is outdated. Note that gen 4 Ttar is about where Landorus is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:07:51 No.35026642 Report

Quoted By: >>35026941

>>35026520
I'm just waiting for an ice/electric type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:23:29 No.35026752 Report

Quoted By: >>35027146

>>35023660
>shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:27:02 No.35026774 Report

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VirGC only has variety once every 3 years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:29:33 No.35026788 Report

Quoted By:

>>35026460
Hi verlis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:53:52 No.35026940 Report

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>>35025228
if the result is so obvious beforehand then why even suspect test at all, just let the OU council decide whether something gets banned or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 19:54:04 No.35026941 Report

Quoted By:

>>35026642
le smug fridge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 20:02:56 No.35027006 Report

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>>35025024
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 20:24:22 No.35027146 Report

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>>35026752
shi

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 20:25:15 No.35027154 Report

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>>35020626
now this is true bara lando

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