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Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 21:45:07 No.35027728 View View Reply Original Report

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Who else is quitting buying new games if gen 8 is as bad/worse than gen 7? I only make the specification because I’ll still be a Pokémon fan and still play older games and such.
I just tried for weeks to replay sun and moon and I couldn’t get past half way I was so bored. I’m not even getting ultra sun or moon because they’re just re-hashes with a few new things.
Tdlr: If gen 8 is as bad as gen 7 I’m done, who else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 21:46:03 No.35027732 Report

Quoted By: >>35028714

>>35027728
Gen 7 succeeded, so Gen 8 is going to be more of the same

If you don't like where the series is going, then now's your chance to move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 22:00:17 No.35027813 Report

Quoted By: >>35028714 >>35029016

>>35027728
I'm honestly considering quitting the franchise if Nintendo doesn't improve 6v6 singles or announce VGC doubles as the official format for the mainline games. Most casuals don't even know that doubles is the "real" way to play competitive Pokemon, because GF keeps retaining singles in their mainline games.

Having the option to change natures, modify EVs more easily (just remove the vitamin cap), and change abilities should have been options a long time ago, too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 22:05:08 No.35027839 Report

Quoted By: >>35028714

>>35027728
Yeah, I feel pretty much the same. I love playing Pokémon games but they've been going down in quality really fast in recent years. I'm most likely going to buy the Switch game regardless but if it isn't better than Gen 7 I might drop the series for good and just replay some of the older games every once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Mar 2018 23:49:59 No.35028714 Report

Quoted By: >>35028820

>>35027839
So we’re basically on the same page.
>>35027813
I don’t know about them implementing the vgc stuff fully because I’m not knowledgeable enough to get into that but I agree with the second half completely.
>>35027732
In what ways do you mean gen 7 succeeded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:05:36 No.35028820 Report

Quoted By: >>35028878 >>35028910

>>35027728
Judging by interviews and the way Gen 7 is, I'm going to say that Gen 8 is going to be even worse. GF really has no idea what they're doing.
>>35028714
Most fans love it and it sold over 15 million copies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:07:21 No.35028829 Report

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>>35027728
tfw I loved gen 7

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:12:29 No.35028864 Report

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>>35027728
If gen 8 takes place in a country I don't approve of and has all those real life cultural references I'm done with the main games. It ruined both the games and anime. If I look for entertainment I don't want to be reminded about all those cancerous countries and their backward cultures. Besides that the gen 7 games were too linear and story driven, this is lazy design because the games turn into interactive movies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:13:31 No.35028868 Report

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>>35028864
That sounds like a personal problem, /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:15:03 No.35028878 Report

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>>35028820
This is sad to me. Just started replaying SS and am sickened by how few tutorials were back then compared to now. SM/USUM were complete railroaded garbage. The first island and the cutscenes absolutely ruined that game for me. Not to mention the camera angles were horrid. I would rather have top down than camera angles where you can’t see shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:15:27 No.35028881 Report

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>>35027728
What if it's XY level OP? Which IMO is still better than Gen7

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:19:11 No.35028910 Report

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>>35028820
Selling 15 million copies doesn't mean they loved them
If you look at even the normies now, they even complain about Sun and Moon and how bad they were, especially with USM

Game freak does hear the normies complaints, and it's been said that they are going to try and change up the formula more. So it's possible they could still be better than Gen7

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Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:20:54 No.35028923 Report

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>35028864 (You)

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Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:21:40 No.35028927 Report

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>>35027728
I liked Gen 7 so yes. The core gameplay has remained solid enough that the fluff like setting, story, and characters doesn't really matter to me. It can focused on like in Gen 7 or be almost entirely absent like Gens 1 and 2 and I wouldn't really care either way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:23:20 No.35028939 Report

Quoted By: >>35029033 >>35029341

>>35027728
I'll only stop if there are more characters like Lillie. I can't handle any more of that garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:25:46 No.35028960 Report

Quoted By: >>35028967

>>35028878
I bought my niece Sun for Christmas back when it came out. She put up with it for about an hour before I heard her say that she wished they'd quit talking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:26:20 No.35028967 Report

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>>35028960
>girl gamers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:31:39 No.35029016 Report

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>>35027728
Well, I think I'll end up doing what I did since the end of gen 3
>New game is on a new console
>Get mad because my parents wouldn't buy a DS for me (Gen 4)
>Get mad because of megas/fairy types (Gen 6)
>(Probably) Get mad because I don't want to buy the Switch just for pokémon (Gen 8)
>Entirely skip one gen
>Buy a used console and actually have fun playing the games from the second gen of the console
>Eventually start playing the games from the first gen of the console
>A few months after, a newer console is out
>Repeat the cycle
>>35027813
>Doubles is the "real" way to play competitive
Maybe, but this is only because battles are shorter than singles and/or set precedents by older competitions.
If time wasn't a problem, VGC would be played singles 6v6 (+maybe doubles 6v6)

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Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:32:45 No.35029033 Report

Quoted By: >>35029341 >>35030053

>>35028939
There will be, waifus are an integral part of the merchandising machine

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:37:12 No.35029077 Report

Quoted By: >>35029146

>>35027728
I really don't like Z-moves. They're a worse attempt of adding a new mechanic, like megas, to enliven the series but the execution of it felt flat to me. It's a gimmick that can only be used once.

I know GF wanted a way to give all Pokemon an competitive upgrade that didn't involve new abilities, forms, or changing types, but my God, Z-moves have made the meta terrible than before.

Every Pokemon is now a possible wall-breaker now. But it only works once. Adjusting base stats, adding new tutor moves, or just introducing more new Alola forms for Pokemon that need a competitive upgrade would have been the better option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:44:22 No.35029146 Report

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>>35029077
This isn't the case at all. Some Pokemon, when using offensive Z moves, are still extremely weak. Z moves are basically what the elemental gems were, but limited to one per game. This is really nice, it makes some otherwise unviable Pokemon now become viable, and also increases the amount if sets a Pokemon can run. I think that Z moves have been better than Megas for the most part. Theres also the fact that Z moves can do different things, like boost all your stats, heal you while boosting a stat, amongst many other things.
Just my opinion though, but yeah, I think they were actually done well.
I agree though, I would still love to see more stat boost and tutor move distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:52:34 No.35029198 Report

Quoted By: >>35029277

>>35027728
I'm done since gen 5, yokai watch and Digimon are better, gen 8 Will be garbage because it's gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 00:56:16 No.35029221 Report

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>>35027728
>bad/worse than gen 7
>unironically
>or even ironically implying gen 7 is bad
>when it's the best in the series
Honestly, drop the series now. Never come back to this board. You will not like the next games if you didn't like gen 7. Stop making this board worse than it already is with these dumb threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:01:36 No.35029256 Report

Quoted By: >>35029274

I'm holding out on the hope that it was so easy/normie friendly was because the pokemon go normies that came in, but I'm scared

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:05:09 No.35029274 Report

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>>35029256
>easy
SM and USUM are harder than previous gens. Not GF's fault if you over level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:06:02 No.35029277 Report

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>>35029198
This. Fucking Black made me quit the franchise, boring af and full of shitmons

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Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:18:47 No.35029341 Report

Quoted By: >>35029605

>>35029033
>>35028939
Zossie is clearly the superior waifu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:45:30 No.35029536 Report

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>>35027728

I already gave up gen 7 so i wont be buying anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:55:11 No.35029605 Report

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>>35029341
>tfw no ultra recon squad merchandise

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 01:56:01 No.35029614 Report

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I'm not going to play Gen 8 games, but I still want to take a look at the new mons and new Region.

I'm expecting a shitload of dialogue, forced tutorials and uninteresting cutscenes.
Before the release, for sure, the hype train will go wild, GF showing something with great potential, and then defenestrating it completely.

Alola forms had great potential, I wanted something interesting for some Johtomons, but nope, GF didn't give a shit in USUM, not even a single one, so I didn't play those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 02:01:28 No.35029673 Report

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>>35027728
Nah, call me when the games became pegi 12

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 02:04:45 No.35029696 Report

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Besides buying ORAS out of nostalgia, I haven't bought any of the main games since Diamond/Pearl back in 2007. LOL

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 02:43:39 No.35029946 Report

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>>35027728
Gen6 was bad because like every gen where they start using a new system: they have no idea what they are doing. So they have to learn how to program for the system. In this case: the 3DS.

Gen6 also suffered from having to devote time to mostly future proofed models for all 700+ mons.

Gen7 was better made... but shows us that they have no idea how to code for the system still. (Copies of every character in every zone they appear in, poor system optimization, lag and loadings, etc)

Gen8 should be about the same, mechanically speaking.
They don’t know how to code for the Switch, but they have learned how to do nongrid/tile based maps.
So they’re basically at the same place they started Gen7 thanks to the system change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 03:04:23 No.35030053 Report

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>>35029033
Then I'm out. I'm not going through another Sun and Moon. I hated Lillie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Mar 2018 03:59:32 No.35030416 Report

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>>35027728
I've said this every Gen since 5 but I always end up buying it a few months after release and loving it. Then again, I'm easy to please.

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