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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 08:00:59 No.35100112 View View Reply Original Report

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Pokemon 3d render thread

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 08:13:41 No.35100137 Report

Quoted By: >>35103896 >>35104054

Pokémon’s 3D models will never not disappoint me. Even Kirby has better 3D models than Pokémon.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 14:42:46 No.35101111 Report

Quoted By: >>35101118 >>35101229 >>35101777 >>35104119 >>35107379 >>35107396

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 14:43:56 No.35101118 Report

Quoted By: >>35101229 >>35101777 >>35104119 >>35107396

>>35101111
Got quads for posting a cute pupper. How nice.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 14:43:55 No.35101120 Report

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Who's ready for Gen VII to still have terrible shading and lighting engines?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:09:52 No.35101213 Report

Quoted By: >>35101743 >>35104483

Question from a person who knows shit about 3D modeling:

Why don't they use smooth rendering in the games?
Is it because it will be too heavy for the 3DS?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:13:16 No.35101229 Report

Quoted By: >>35101272 >>35103556

>>35101111
>>35101118
Models sure look amazing. I don't understand people who say we need new models for pokemon switch, they could port the 3DS ones easily and just give them new textures and animations.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:24:06 No.35101272 Report

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>>35101229
Eh some models look better than others

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:08:14 No.35101729 Report

Quoted By: >>35102636 >>35103528 >>35104501 >>35107396

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:12:15 No.35101743 Report

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>>35101213
They do use it
If you're talking about the jagged edges it's because of the low resolution and the lack of power to use anti-aliasing

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:17:48 No.35101777 Report

Quoted By: >>35104074

>>35101111
>>35101118
I love theadorableoshawott's stuff

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 19:14:06 No.35102636 Report

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>>35101729
That is fucking creepy.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 19:19:30 No.35102668 Report

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anyone make 3d porn of Sceptile yet?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 20:13:53 No.35103073 Report

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Cringe tier but he uses the models amazingly well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 20:15:20 No.35103084 Report

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>>35100112
>[the entirety of 3ds pokemon games
/thread
A fucking thread died for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 21:12:05 No.35103528 Report

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>>35101729
Those whiskers look like droopy pimples.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 21:16:30 No.35103556 Report

Quoted By: >>35103761 >>35106450

>>35101229
Generally the only complaint is the textures. Though some Pokemon have changed a bit when you compare their sprites and models

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 21:17:51 No.35103563 Report

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 21:51:15 No.35103761 Report

Quoted By: >>35103908 >>35104091 >>35104093 >>35104143 >>35104263 >>35107379

>>35103556
They're also very low-poly. Sure, they look great for the 3DS models, but we need something way more impressive for the Switch.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:05:06 No.35103896 Report

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>>35100137
Sure thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:06:12 No.35103908 Report

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>>35103761
>They're also very low-poly
Pretty sure U.Hoopa has more polygons than PS3 MGSV Venon Snake.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:22:50 No.35104054 Report

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>>35100137
That model is simple as fuck, they just gave it more chamfer and more realistic textures. And even then that sword is pretty basic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:25:07 No.35104074 Report

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>>35101777
It's basically just taking the existing models, applying a material and rendering them (in Arnold, i'd say), though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:27:36 No.35104091 Report

Quoted By: >>35104102

>>35103761
>They're also very low-poly.

They're not. Primarina has an absurd amount of polygons.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:27:59 No.35104093 Report

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>>35103761
That's not low poly. The edges are enough to defie the shape, if anything it should be more low-poly for the 3ds.
What it needs though is some high poly normal baking so the textures give it an illusion of more volume.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:28:15 No.35104099 Report

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>>35104074
Yeah, it's good stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:28:37 No.35104102 Report

Quoted By: >>35104182

>>35104091
Is there a polycount somewhere? I'm interested to know a specific number.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:30:32 No.35104119 Report

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>>35101118
>>35101111
Those models need sharper textures and maybe some additional shading. That would make them look really fucking good.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:33:38 No.35104143 Report

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>>35103761
In what world are these low poly. What is high poly to you

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:38:53 No.35104182 Report

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>>35104102

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:43:12 No.35104210 Report

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>>35104182
>you will never slide your peen across these smooth, smooth polygons
why live

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:44:06 No.35104222 Report

Quoted By: >>35104275

>>35104182
Definitely made with HD consoles in mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:48:23 No.35104263 Report

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>>35103761
Haha no. Pokémon models are actually ridiculously high poly because they were made to last upwards of a decade. The main reason the 3DS games run like shit (besides GF’s incompetence of course) is because the models are too much for it to run at a decent frame rate.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:49:38 No.35104275 Report

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>>35104222
All the models since XY were.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:55:51 No.35104330 Report

Quoted By: >>35104343

>>35104182
Well I'm eating my words, that model is indeed impressive. It's only ~4k polys less than most Soul Calibur 4 characters.
Now I really want to see that as a proper in-game model. If they'll go for the cell-shaded look, those models would be more than enough.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:57:26 No.35104343 Report

Quoted By: >>35104361

>>35104330
Have you checked out Ga-Ole at all?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 22:59:28 No.35104361 Report

Quoted By: >>35104439

>>35104343
Yes, but I doubt GF will use those. Seems like Ga-Ole only has a handful of mons playable at this moment, like Pokken.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 23:07:07 No.35104439 Report

Quoted By: >>35106755

>>35104361
I like what Ga-Ole does with the lighting. It fixes up some of the washed out textures.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 23:15:32 No.35104483 Report

Quoted By: >>35106855

>>35101213
Because Gamefreak is fucking retarded and put a bunch of high poly models on gen 6/7, leaving no room for anything else.

>>35101743
You can do some AA even on that shit resolution that the 3DS has and it looks pretty good. See Zelda OoT/MM and Resident Evil Revelations.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 23:17:52 No.35104501 Report

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>>35101729
wow

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 23:20:48 No.35104530 Report

Quoted By: >>35104549

>>35104182
What the fuck they were thinking

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Anonymous Mon 12 Mar 2018 23:23:07 No.35104549 Report

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>>35104530
They were thinking "the higher-ups just told us they're making a portable console and they want Pokemon on it in 2018 so let's make these models way too complicated for the 3DS, even if it looks like shit imagine how everyone's mind will be blown when they see the first use of these models in HD".

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 04:01:24 No.35106431 Report

Quoted By: >>35106816 >>35107396

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 04:04:45 No.35106450 Report

Quoted By: >>35106492

>>35103556
Their animations are boring.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 04:13:48 No.35106492 Report

Quoted By: >>35106860

>>35106450
The IDLE animations are boring. Move animations are great. Hopefully they rework a lot of the idle animations, on a stronger system like the Switch they don't have to worry about the Pokemon moving around in their idle poses without the 3DS melting.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 05:03:40 No.35106755 Report

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>>35104439
The lighting in GO isn't too bad, either.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 05:14:25 No.35106816 Report

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>>35106431
Noice

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 05:27:59 No.35106855 Report

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>>35104483
Game Freak can't even make simple scenes run without stuttering. Add in AA and their shit would run like an N64 game

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 05:29:46 No.35106860 Report

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>>35106492
Game Freak is doing more outsourcing, so outsourcing the animations would do a lot to liven them up

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:22:57 No.35107368 Report

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>>35100112
Froakie is so fucking cute.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:28:48 No.35107379 Report

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I actually like more the ones from OP's picture than >>35101111 that looks like a plastic model. If you're not going to give actual fur, just stay anime-ish. Personal opinion.

>>35103761
Chek this Volcanion.
The high polygon count of some Pokémon is one of the reasons that makes double battles so laggy.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:35:34 No.35107396 Report

Quoted By: >>35107399

>>35101111
>>35101118
They look like rubber toys. I really hope Gamefreak bothers to give the models some actual textures. It doesn't even have to quite be up to the what Pokken has like in >>35101729 and >>35106431 but just give them something more detailed then these lifeless flat colors. Otherwise, they'll look like shit at a higher resolution then a 3DS screen.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:39:23 No.35107399 Report

Quoted By: >>35107405

>>35107396
They need to add cell-shading to make them work. Pokken models are fine but the high detail look really doesn't fit Pokemon.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:41:59 No.35107405 Report

Quoted By: >>35107424

>>35107399
I wholeheartedly disagree. Pokken is the best the franchise has ever looked and should be the template going forward.

I know it'll never happen, but still, I can dream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:50:02 No.35107424 Report

Quoted By: >>35107446

>>35107405
That Magikarp looks like something a fan would make. I agree that it looks good, but the aesthetic doesn't jive with Sugimori's artwork at all, it works for Pokken because that game went full anime instead.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 08:59:34 No.35107446 Report

Quoted By: >>35107479

>>35107424
I think the Pokken models are a great compromise between style and graphics. Its way better than the playdoh lumps they use in the main games, which are also pretty bad at catching Sugimori's style. Especially compared to his earlier style.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 09:02:35 No.35107450 Report

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>>35104182
Primarina was a mistake

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Anonymous Tue 13 Mar 2018 09:17:08 No.35107479 Report

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>>35107446
Gen 6-7 models actually look really good in-game because they're using cell-shading. They all look like shit on a 3DS screen, but when you emulate the games you can really see what they were going for here.

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