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Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 18:20:57 No.35180137 View View Reply Original Report

Well what happened /vp/?

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Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 18:23:05 No.35180149 Report

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>>35180137
That's a dumb meme especially considering gen 2 snorlax exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 18:29:16 No.35180178 Report

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I'm still rocking out my favorites in battlespot like Regigigas and Moltres

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 18:32:36 No.35180198 Report

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>>35180137
I use my favorites.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 18:32:41 No.35180199 Report

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>>35180137
I want a Tshirt of this image

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 20:38:40 No.35180864 Report

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My favorite Pokemon just happened to be considered strong Pokemon.

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Smogon Fri 23 Mar 2018 20:42:13 No.35180882 Report

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>>35180137
I destroyed Karenfags
It wasn't that hard. Just make a rankings list and watch the Autism fly. In that environment, not even Karen herself could survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 20:47:48 No.35180908 Report

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>>35180137
She lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 20:51:10 No.35180928 Report

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>>35180198
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 20:53:16 No.35180937 Report

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>>35180137
Stong Pokémon
Weak humans.
That is the cruel reality of this world.
Those humans who seek to become hunters are doomed to be devoured, like the prey they are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 21:07:03 No.35180989 Report

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People like to win.
And Pokemon isn't a game that constantly being balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 21:14:11 No.35181024 Report

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>>35180137
I wonder who actually wrote that line thinking that Unown, Murkrow, and Butterfree could hold their own against Mewtwo, Ho-oh, Snorlax, Tyranitar, and Zapdos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 21:30:52 No.35181129 Report

Quoted By: >>35184561

It's BS because Pokemon is a numbers game. Once you reach people of your skill level, you start auto-losing because their mons can make reliable plays while you have to rely entirely on predictions so your shitmons can put up a fight. It's tedious and not worth the trouble.

>>35181024
They were probably thinking of retarded shit like double team and baton passing, completely oblivious to the fact that the strong mons have access to them as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 21:55:24 No.35181305 Report

Quoted By: >>35181672 >>35183820 >>35184611

ORAS Gentleman is more correct

"It's one thing to enjoy leisurely battles, but real battles can be a severe trial. Truly strong Trainers sometimes must be prepared to choose Pokemon that can win rather than their favorite Pokemon."

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Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 22:10:52 No.35181384 Report

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>>35180137
It's hard to take battling advice from someone who uses a Lick Gengar whilst supposedly acting as a Dark-type trainer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 23:07:45 No.35181672 Report

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>>35181305
Does an NPC really say this? That's... surprisingly rational for dialog in a Pokemon game.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Mar 2018 23:12:56 No.35181690 Report

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>>35180137
I do try to win with my favorites. :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:18:51 No.35183323 Report

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>>35181672
Yeah, it's in game. Really reflects how Game Freak sees competitive battling.
>>35181690
You disgust me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:26:24 No.35183371 Report

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>>35180937
>monsters that can kill you
>can capture him with a tiny ball
Pokecucks lmao when will they learn

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:31:52 No.35183403 Report

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I ended up using pokemon i like based solely on how they looked

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:33:05 No.35183407 Report

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>>35180137
Sadly, even back them that was true only in game. For that to become true in PvP it requiere a herculian effort, which while possible it is just not worth it since no one really cares that much.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:44:02 No.35183453 Report

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>>35180137
I only use my favorites. Why do people have to get so autistic over a children’s video game?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:47:46 No.35183475 Report

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>>35181672
He's in the Battle Resort if you care to check.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 03:55:38 No.35183502 Report

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>>35180137
This never changed for me. I don't play online (or via cable in the old days), never did. I don't understand the appeal of it. I prefer to catch them all with my bros/sis than battling other players.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 05:10:57 No.35183820 Report

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>>35181305
He's right, it's just pragmatism. Grimsley's philosophy also ties well into this. It's all well and good to just want to have fun playing the way you want, but that doesn't mean your ideals correlate to reality or translate into victory. Plus it's subjective because what someone can value in their favorites can be strength and who is anyone to state their love isn't genuine?

I personally prefer playing how I want and understand where Karen's coming from, but it's pure moralfaggoty plain and simple. I don't enter raw competitions and don't try to claim a moral superiority like some scrub.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 07:11:31 No.35184290 Report

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>>35180137

After Grimsley was created Karens mostly stopped crying.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 07:12:38 No.35184292 Report

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>>35184290
haha no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 07:17:47 No.35184300 Report

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>>35180137
Good quote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 08:20:47 No.35184430 Report

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>>35184300
Sounds good but is factually wrong. Pokemon are not equal. That is not "selfish perception", that is harsh reality. It may pretty shitty to ONLY care about strength, but values don't win battles unless strength is indeed one of the things you value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:30:12 No.35184556 Report

Quoted By: >>35184599 >>35186071

>what happened
Game Freak decided that certain Pokemon should be objectively better than others and when they inevitably got popular because people like to win, Game Freak made them even better as fan service and force at least one of them on you in every new game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:35:04 No.35184561 Report

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>>35181024
>>35181129
It would make sense in universe where Pikachu can keep up with Dragonite and friendship is more than just an invisible stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:46:15 No.35184585 Report

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>>35181024
>>35184430
No where does she say all Pokemon are equal in viability. She says truly skilled trainers use they're faves.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:51:02 No.35184595 Report

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The Pokemon games a restricted data emulating life with Pokemon. I'll always have my for fun team made of my favorites. If I want to win, however, I'll just mass breed or hack a team to exploit the meta. Foreplay is fun, but we're working with a restricted medium. Accept that and make your own fun from it. Stop being autistic about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:52:38 No.35184599 Report

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>>35184556
Some Pokemon have always been better than others.
>>35184585
>No where does she say all Pokemon are equal in viability
When she reduces strength and weakness to a matter of "selfish perception". Dancing around it won't make sense of it and "truly skilled trainers use they're faves" is sanctimonious spew. Play how you please but don't bullshit.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:59:42 No.35184611 Report

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>>35181305
Would you rather take the advice of an Elite Four member, or some random weak trainer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 09:59:51 No.35184612 Report

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>>35180137
My favourite Pokémon are Landorus-T, Greninja-ash, Zygarde, Magearna and Tapu Koko

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:04:27 No.35184617 Report

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>>35184611
The one who doesn't lose to a kid and still tries to moralfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:04:59 No.35184619 Report

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>>35184611
Would you rather take the advice that's complete bullshit or actually decent advice?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:07:37 No.35184624 Report

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>>35184611
I'd rather not appeal to authority.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:07:55 No.35184625 Report

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>>35184611
>Gentleman who has lived a long life, and likely experienced enough hardships in battles to come to such an understandable philosophy
vs.
>Dark type """Master""" who didn't even use all of the Dark types introduced at the time who provides shallow advice only a shitty shounen protagonist would say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:12:54 No.35184634 Report

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>>35184625
>Dark type """Master"""
It just occurred to me that she may have given you terrible advice on purpose.
Dark types are known for their underhanded techniques, maybe she wanted you to use a shit team so she could kick in your shit the next time you battle. Why would a "evil" type specialist be such a moralfag, anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 10:24:00 No.35184660 Report

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>>35184634
This is my new headcanon!

But seriously though, I'd love it if that was the case. Definitely change my (lack of) respect for her.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:07:58 No.35184771 Report

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>>35184625
>Delusional, crotchety old fogey with dementia
or
>Young and intelligent Pokemon master on top of her game and still in her prime
See, I can do it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:09:07 No.35184775 Report

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>>35184617
He does lose to a kid. Everyone loses to a kid. The protagonist is always the strongest Pokemon trainer ever, no exceptions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:14:42 No.35184783 Report

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>>35184771
>good advice
or
>objectively bad advice

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:39:05 No.35184846 Report

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>>35184771
Yeah, but you're doing it purely out of spite and butthurt because you're waifu's dialogue demonstrates she is stupid.
>>35184775
Yes, regardless of how the protagonist is the strongest. You could be the splitting image of Silver and only care about power, and you'd beat her ass, and she'd still say this crap, and she'd still be wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:43:52 No.35184863 Report

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>>35184775
The keyword there is "and"; i.e. the gentleman lose, but he doesn't spout things like "people are selfish".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:49:07 No.35184877 Report

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>>35184771
>Sending out the strongest Pokemon you have because you want to win
or
>Sending your weakest because ITS MUH FAVORITE, disregarding how badly it'll get thrashed
Hey, this is fun.>>35184775

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 11:54:23 No.35184890 Report

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>>35180137
>remember using Mawile back when it was an absolute shitmon, ran a fucking baton pass set on it
>Gen 6 happens and it gets the best typing and the highest attack stat in the game
Sweet vindication. That being said, the vast majority of my other favorites suck ass, and no one brings up how unfun it is to fight OP, cookie cutter teams over and over. One screw up against a Mega Metagross and it's game over. Oh, you won? Great, next battle has you facing the same team, this dude has a team of literally only pseudos and legendaries? Isn't that fun? Aren't you having fun?

Competitive Pokemon battling sucks absolute ass.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 12:56:20 No.35185059 Report

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Unown is easily one of my favorite Pokemon, but I'm sensible enough to understand that something like Skarmory fits my team better. If you think otherwise then you're pretty damn pathetic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 13:42:55 No.35185222 Report

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>>35184863
They are. People who only battle with strong Pokemon and disregard the ones they actually like are tryhard assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 13:50:15 No.35185243 Report

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>>35185222
That would be fine, if he didn't make the distinction between "leisurely battle" and "real battle".

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 13:50:47 No.35185245 Report

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>>35180137
>you thought gen V had too much shitty legendaries!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 13:54:29 No.35185262 Report

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>>35183323
Yeah, it doesn’t give a shit about competitive battling and just churns out 30 broken legends a gen and makes almost more of them than normal Pokemon to market the shit out of them, make them busted and fun to use for the kiddies and normies, buy a plush!

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 14:08:10 No.35185314 Report

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>>35183502
Anyone know the artist or what this series of images is called? I have this other one if there are more I would like to see them.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 14:23:34 No.35185372 Report

Quoted By: >>35185556

>>35185314
Ken Sugimori

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 15:04:13 No.35185556 Report

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>>35185372
Ah shouldve guessed by the art style. I really love these. I noticed the symbol at bottom right, thats his mark then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 15:07:16 No.35185572 Report

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>>35180137
Nothing. People will always use the numerically strongest Pokemon when it comes to competitive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 15:15:43 No.35185605 Report

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>>35184611
But you can only access the Battle Resort when you become a champion (this isn't a restriction to the player, it's outright stated that nobody can access it unless they're champions), so that guy was Hoenn's champion when he was young, meaning that he beat the entire elite 4 and the champion. He's stronger than Karen in every way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 15:23:05 No.35185636 Report

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>>35180137
My favorites are all strong Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 16:03:51 No.35185846 Report

Quoted By: >>35185923

People say things like strong pokemon or weak pokemon but you should know that pokemon is a multimedia franchise.
A pokemon that is considered bad in the main games can be good in a spin-off game and vice versa and then there is the trading card game with its own meta
ranking pokemon based on how well they do in competitive video game battles is too narrow-minded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 16:14:08 No.35185923 Report

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>>35185846
When the quote itself comes from the video game - the main one at that - I think you can see why they use that as the basis.
Besides, there's also the old "mainline is canon, spin-off is not" argument to be made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 16:35:50 No.35186071 Report

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>>35184556
No. Certain Pokemon are objectively better than others because they're harder to obtain and raise. It wouldn't make sense for an early route rat that takes 10 minutes to evolve to be as strong as a pseudo legendary that evolves at level 50.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 16:41:00 No.35186102 Report

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>>35180137
I still do.
It helps that three of my favourites are very good competitively. Terrible synergy between them, but they're my friends. Wish the games let you do more than the super limited headpat simulator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 18:28:04 No.35186619 Report

Quoted By: >>35186720

>>35180137
Remind me, who STOPS their pokemon from evolving unless they truly thought the evolution was worse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 18:38:43 No.35186698 Report

Quoted By: >>35186714

>I do use my faves to battle, they just happen to be all legendaries :)
jesus, some pokemon players really are dumb

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 18:41:07 No.35186714 Report

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>>35186698
>you're not allowed to like those pokemon because they're good

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 18:42:24 No.35186720 Report

Quoted By: >>35186738

>>35186619
Some Pokemon only get certain moves when unevolved, so you have to leave them at that stage for a long time. Oddish, Shroomish and Poochyena come to mind.
There's also a few mons with niches when unevolved, like Porygon 2 or Dusclops.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Mar 2018 18:44:16 No.35186738 Report

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>>35186720
>Dusclops
please end this meme

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