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Pokemon Gen 6 review

Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 17:04:37 No.35228540 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35228724 >>35229239 >>35229703 >>35230552

Review the games that came out during Gen 6. Discuss the pros and cons and give out your overall score.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 17:39:15 No.35228724 Report

Quoted By: >>35229021 >>35229042 >>35230409 >>35231270 >>35231527

>>35228540

XY:

-Pros:
Large Regional Pokedex
Flashy Visuals
Decent OST
Trainer Customization
Little to no use of HMs in the Main Story

-Cons:
Mega Evolution
Introduction of Fairy-Type
Forgettable Gym Leaders
Team Flare
Mega Evolution
Lack of an Actual Postgame
The "Rivals"
The Elite 4 and Champion
The Lack of New Pokemon
The Heavy use of Nostalgia Pandering
The fact you could divide the biomes with a fucking Black Line
The fact Xerneas and Yveltal have the exact fucking same Copy-Paste stats
Fucking Mega Evolution
Diggersby
The entirety of Gen 6 does nothing to expand on Zygarde
Volcanion
Aromatisse
The annoying ass roller skates
The Exp. Share

Pro to Con ratio: 5:17
My personal overall ranking of XY out of the main series games: 16th place... out of 16 places...

-as for OrAs:

-Pros:
Flashy Visuals
It's Hoenn
Easier to find specific Pokemon
Move Tutors
Deoxys is catchable without the use of an event
Removes the forced roller skates gimmick from XY

-Cons:

More Mega Evolutions
Suffers from many of the same problems XY did (i.e. Nostalgia Pandering, Exp. Share, etc.)
Graphics were actually dumbed down from XY
Brings the biggest problem with HMs back, that being their classic forced usage during the main story
More Mega Evolutions
Removed many aspects that the original RSE had introduced (hahaha Battle Frontier)
What did they do to Mauville?
They changed the core plot just to shoehorn in even more Mega Evolutions
Too many catchable legendaries for literally no reason, unlike HGSS where they created entirely new environments solely for catching those legendaries.
I'm guessing they wanted to do something with Hoopa, but the game was so rushed they just gave up.
Just removed the Game Corner with no replacement, unlike HGSS, which had so much that it easily made up for it.
Seriously what did they do to Mauville this is not okay
Lati@site makes the Soul Dew completely irrelevant

Good to Bad ratio: 6:13

my personal ranking: 15th place

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 17:52:11 No.35228798 Report

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6/10. A typical bog standard Pokémon game that doesn't really excel at anything or stand out from the rest. Forgettable experience.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 18:26:31 No.35229021 Report

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>>35228724
FPBP. Totally agree with this.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 18:29:40 No.35229042 Report

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>>35228724
soul dew is better than latiasite
In fact most of your cons are just garbage, why can't people take this seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 18:31:56 No.35229055 Report

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7/10
completely inoffensive and at least better than gen 5
very standard pokemon games, only really memorable because of the great online features

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 19:03:59 No.35229239 Report

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>>35228540
XY Pros:
>PSS was a big step up for the franchise's online
>Older MCs
>Character customization
>fun easter eggs
>post game sidestory was pretty good
>NPC designs were fantastic
>main legendary designs were fantastic
>lots of good quality pokemon
>lots of memorable areas
>lots of little QoL features

XY Cons:
>Kanto pandering out the ass
>bland and boring "friends"
>clearly rushed story with no thought put into it
>completely botched box legendary encounters
>zygarde looks like shit
>game clearly wasn't balanced around EXP share and mega evolutions
>unmemorable antagonists
>unmemorable gym leaders
>unmemorable champion
>can't turn off roller skates

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 19:09:46 No.35229273 Report

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>>35229239
what's wrong with zygarde he had a cool design

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 19:59:48 No.35229589 Report

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If I had to make a comparison, also, XY is worse than ORAS, and sadly, ORAS is the best damn game duo, even beating SMUSUM and XY.

>Dexnav is fucking easy if your hands don't seize
>Beauty stat made a return, ergo making Feebas easy to evolve
>Seriously, Dexnav made breeding so fucking easy
>We had the PGL on top of the PSS. No bullshit RNG Roto powers, or in the case of SM, nothing at all.
>Breeding was much easier thanks to the little square-circle path going 'round the postgame area, on top of having the Breeding O-Power on regular access.
>Legendaries up the ass aside from USUM
>You never needed to pay for megastones
>RNG Mirage Spots which while annoying, can lend you access to rarer pokemon not found in all the gen 6 games, such as Glameow
>The graphics don't make the game chug to a chokepoint, unlike SMUSUM
>Fucking Blissey Bases that while there are limited areas, at least we have an amazingly easy time leveling to 100
>The champion is not a useless piece of cardboard with a silly team

Maybe the Friend Safari, Le Wow, and the Battle Chateu are the only things that have an edge over ORAS.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:01:47 No.35229602 Report

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>>35229042
>Soul Dew is better than Latiasite
Not anymore since the gen 7 nerf. I also fear we may lose internet access soon because Nintendo is jewish.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:16:54 No.35229703 Report

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>>35228540
The days of early XY's online were the most fun I've had with Pokemon since HGSS. After the dark ages of Gen 5 I thought we'd never have an enjoyable Pokemon game again, but the transition from singleplayer to multiplayer focus was a thing of beauty in 2013. Even though the main campaign of XY was almost as bad as Gen 5, the nostalgia I have for all of its online gameplay (and resulting renaissance of the fanbase) prevent me from disliking the game. 9/10

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:18:13 No.35229710 Report

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1/10

Shit games

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:21:19 No.35229730 Report

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>>35229703

>dark ages of Gen 5
>renaissance of the fanbase for Gen 6

Don't you mean the renaissance of Gen 5 and the Dark Ages of the fanbase in Gen 6?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:23:20 No.35229745 Report

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>>35229703

>Main campaign of Gen 5 was bad
>comparing XY's campaign to Gen 5's

did we even play the same game?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:28:00 No.35229778 Report

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>>35229745
>one-note characters repeating the same line of dialogue ad nauseam throughout the entirety of the game
>offensively bad attempt at a "deep" story that barely makes sense
>forced linearity, brain-dead difficulty, lack of battle frontier, safari zone, game corner, etc
They were incredibly similar. At least XY had nice visuals and a good Pokemon selection.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:46:11 No.35229916 Report

Quoted By: >>35229937 >>35230477 >>35231382

>>35229778

>One-note characters

Gen 5's characters actually changed and had grew over time. Gen 6 was just "I exist!" and that was it. Bianca and Cheren were great characters, and they go through just as much development as N did. I can't say the same for any Kalos character whatsoever.

>bad attempt at a "deep" story

At least Gen 5 actually had some kind of effort into the story, and desu, when I got into Pokemon, I was coming out of Zelda, and Gen 5's story was on par with Zelda for me. Gen 6 had fucking nothing. The deepest part of the plot was AZ, and that was all shoved down your throat at the tail end of the game, during the final cutscene immediately after you become champion via mass exposition dump.

>forced linearity, brain-dead difficulty

I mean how else would you tell a story in a story-driven game? And Gen 5 actually had some tough fights like Lenora's Watchog and Ghetsis in his entirety.
Gen 6 was completely brain dead because of muh megas and muh exp. share you don't have to use but it's still pointless because everyone you fight will always be fucking 10 levels under you regardless.

>lack of a battle frontier, safari zone, game corner

Gen 5 had the Battle Subway, and if you weren't satisfied there you had the PWT in B2W2, which was fucking amazing, because it was fanservice for every generation, perfect remixes, the fact you could battle every gym leader and champion in the series up to gen 5, that was great. Gen 6 only had the Battle Mason or whatever the fuck it was and I couldn't care less about that bullshit. At least with the PWT i had incentive to work to battle icons of the past with competitive teams.
Also, Gen 4 removed the game corner first, don't pull that on Gen 5.

>Gen 6 had a good Pokemon selection

if you mean the regional dex, yes, but only 72 new pokemon with only 6 legendaries, with 3 of those being locked behind events is just fucking disappointing, much like the rest of Gen 6.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 20:49:12 No.35229937 Report

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>>35229916
Does your mother know you're using her phone, bucko?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 21:06:04 No.35230046 Report

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>>35229937

Brilliant anon, but do you actually have a counterargument or are you just gonna keep attacking me personally? Seems to be a common thing amongst Kalosperm.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 21:54:40 No.35230409 Report

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>>35228724
this list is shit what a troll

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 22:03:57 No.35230477 Report

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>>35230046
Sure.

>>35229916
>Gen 5's characters actually changed and had grew over time. Gen 6 was just "I exist!" and that was it. Bianca and Cheren were great characters, and they go through just as much development as N did. I can't say the same for any Kalos character whatsoever.
I would seriously recommend either expanding your horizons beyond just Pokemon or wiping the fog off of your nostalgia goggle if you think any character in any Pokemon game is "developed".
>At least Gen 5 actually had some kind of effort into the story,
Emphasis =/= effort
When your plot has more holes than a goth kid's ear you can't at all claim there is effort (why does Ghetsis tell the player about the other dragon instead of just taking it for himself? How does N challenge the league without getting all the badges? Where the fuck does Team Plasma's castle come from? Why does Ghetsis take Kyurem out of the Giant Chasm and fuck it for three years when his plan is to take it back to the chasm where "its power resonates? If N's dragon told him Kyurem was suffering why did he wait three years to save it, and then arrive in the exact 10 minute window when he couldn't? I could go on and on; Pokemon plots are terrible and making them the emphasis of the game only accentuates that.)
>I mean how else would you tell a story in a story-driven game?
Uh, by not making fucking Pokemon of all things story-driven in the first place?
>And Gen 5 actually had some tough fights like Lenora's Watchog and Ghetsis in his entirety.
I applaud your lack of shame of being terrible at a childrens' game.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 22:05:00 No.35230486 Report

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>>35230477
>Gen 6 was completely brain dead because of muh megas and muh exp. share you don't have to use but it's still pointless because everyone you fight will always be fucking 10 levels under you regardless.
Getting free Lucky Eggs halfway through the game isn't much better, nor is catching an overlevelled Braviary/Sword of Justice at an incredibly early point in the game.
>Gen 5 had the Battle Subway, and if you weren't satisfied there you had the PWT in B2W2, which was fucking amazing, because it was fanservice for every generation, perfect remixes, the fact you could battle every gym leader and champion in the series up to gen 5, that was great.
And that isn't even fucking close to replacing the Battle Frontier.
>Gen 6 only had the Battle Mason or whatever the fuck it was and I couldn't care less about that bullshit.
Yet the Subway is somehow better?
>Also, Gen 4 removed the game corner first, don't pull that on Gen 5.
No, it didn't. It removed the slot minigame in international versions of HGSS, and replaced them with a different minigame back when Gamefreak still thought removing content was a bad thing.
>if you mean the regional dex, yes, but only 72 new pokemon with only 6 legendaries, with 3 of those being locked behind events is just fucking disappointing, much like the rest of Gen 6.
I'll honestly take that over 156 mostly-terrible Pokemon any day of the week. You whine about the big bad genwunner pandering while also defending the game that just reskinned Zubat and Geodude and friends and tried to sell them as new Pokemon (I'll stop there, because this board has a boner for the ice cream).

also your hypocrisy is cute but my favorite is gen 2

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 22:13:22 No.35230552 Report

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>>35228540
X/Y

A lot of the single player is some of the worst ever in the series. Lysandre is pretty alright but the main cast is horrendous. It's pretty bland until team flare stuff really picks up. I would never ever consider replaying it because of how mediocre so much of it is. Nonetheless, I love the addition of fairy types, mega evolution, and the mass rebalancing that happened. So many good changes there.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 23:37:15 No.35231228 Report

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>>35230477

Thank you. Was that really so hard?

anyways:

>I would seriously recommend either expanding your horizons beyond just Pokemon or wiping the fog off of your nostalgia goggle if you think any character in any Pokemon game is "developed".
>Emphasis =/= effort
>When your plot has more holes than a goth kid's ear you can't at all claim there is effort (why does Ghetsis tell the player about the other dragon instead of just taking it for himself? How does N challenge the league without getting all the badges? Where the fuck does Team Plasma's castle come from? Why does Ghetsis take Kyurem out of the Giant Chasm and fuck it for three years when his plan is to take it back to the chasm where "its power resonates? If N's dragon told him Kyurem was suffering why did he wait three years to save it, and then arrive in the exact 10 minute window when he couldn't? I could go on and on; Pokemon plots are terrible and making them the emphasis of the game only accentuates that.)

I mean I did say I went into Black coming out of Zelda. And I have played other games sine then. And I played Black when XY were busy getting overhyped. I mean yeah when compared to something like MOTHER 3 or Metal Gear Solid it falls flat on its face, but I wouldn't go out of my way to say it's outright terrible, especially when they make you question your ethics. I guess people just weren't ready to listen to that. Especially in Pokemon.

>Uh, by not making fucking Pokemon of all things story-driven in the first place?

I mean they only tried to do something new. Again, I guess people don't want actual story in Pokemon then. Everyone loved it in Sun and Moon though, apparently.

>I applaud your lack of shame of being terrible at a childrens' game

I mean I know I'm shit at videogames but come on, Black was my first Pokemon game. And again, I was coming from Zelda, a slightly more action-oriented combat system. So as a newcomer, those fights actually gave me a bit of a hard time.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 23:41:18 No.35231270 Report

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>>35228724
>Lati@site makes the Soul Dew completely irrelevant
Until SM Soul Dew was a better option than the Megas.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 23:49:55 No.35231348 Report

Quoted By: >>35233152

>>35230486

>Getting free Lucky Eggs halfway through the game isn't much better, nor is catching an overlevelled Braviary/Sword of Justice at an incredibly early point in the game.

I think that might be Black 2/White 2, not BW. And I never used any of those in my playthroughs.

>And that isn't even fucking close to replacing the Battle Frontier.

The PWT, the ability of battling every gym leader and every champion in the series, all of them with competitive level sets doesn't compare to the Battle frontier? How, exactly? I'm curious.

>Yet the Subway is somehow better?

I mean yeah I can agree with you on that desu It's about on equal footing with the Mason.

>No, it didn't. It removed the slot minigame in international versions of HGSS, and replaced them with a different minigame back when Gamefreak still thought removing content was a bad thing

I mean it was still Gen 4, And technically it was a lot of what the Game Corner was about. At least in my shitty opinion.

>I'll honestly take that over 156 mostly-terrible Pokemon any day of the week. You whine about the big bad genwunner pandering while also defending the game that just reskinned Zubat and Geodude and friends and tried to sell them as new Pokemon

Eh, that's mainly opinionated on your front. And tell me how 2 Mega Charizards and 2 Mega Mewtwos isn't Genwunner pandering at its worst, or that Gigalith is inferior to Golem. Every gen has its flops, but every gen also has its gold.

>also your hypocrisy is cute but my favorite is gen 2

I mean the fact you were defending Kalos kinda gave me the idea, honestly.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 23:54:08 No.35231382 Report

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>>35229916
I love how people praise the pwt despite being a shitty facility propped up on nostalgia bait
Why is gen 5 allowed to get away with it? It isn't any better than gen 6

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Anonymous Fri 30 Mar 2018 23:56:30 No.35231407 Report

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>>35231382

Yes but Kalos mainly catered to Kanto, not every other gen after Kanto.

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Anonymous Sat 31 Mar 2018 00:15:09 No.35231527 Report

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>>35228724
bruh why you gotta' be so mean Diggersby didn't do shit to you

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Anonymous Sat 31 Mar 2018 01:07:50 No.35231969 Report

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Mega evolution in ORAS was a mistake IMO

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Anonymous Sat 31 Mar 2018 03:55:39 No.35233152 Report

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>>35231348
>The PWT, the ability of battling every gym leader and every champion in the series, all of them with competitive level sets doesn't compare to the Battle frontier? How, exactly? I'm curious.
Not to mention it also had rentals, type master and mix modes adding to the variety.

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