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Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:24:47 No.35386284 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35386337 >>35386837 >>35386858 >>35387144 >>35387377 >>35387607 >>35387720 >>35388495

People who have seen the games' programming and understand how it works, from a scale of one to ten how would you rate Game Freak as coders?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:28:47 No.35386303 Report

Quoted By: >>35386317 >>35386405

Gen 1: D-
Gen 2: B (probably was going to be another D without Iwata)

I only know basic assembly, so I won't judge the later releases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:30:14 No.35386317 Report

Quoted By: >>35386392 >>35386873

>>35386303
D for Gen II sounds a little too fair considering that they couldn't even finish Johto without Iwata's compression.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:34:51 No.35386337 Report

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>>35386284
11/10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:45:51 No.35386392 Report

Quoted By: >>35386430

>>35386317
I can't give Fs, because the game's actually run. Gen 1 is glitchy as hell, but it works, which saves it from an F.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:46:54 No.35386405 Report

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>>35386303
>I only know basic assembly
Goddam, really? That's both scary and impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 02:52:34 No.35386430 Report

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>>35386392
But I wasn't talking about Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 04:15:03 No.35386837 Report

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>>35386284
Let's just put it this way... It's never been higher than a 6/10 at best, and that was about 15 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 04:20:40 No.35386858 Report

Quoted By: >>35386916 >>35387377 >>35387825

>>35386284
Their games work but somethings, design wise make no sense. Like the Prankster nerf. Why do all Dark types now get an immunity to all status moves? It'd be simple to change it where if you're slower, the move fails.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 04:24:36 No.35386873 Report

Quoted By: >>35387344

>>35386317
>considering that they couldn't even finish Johto without Iwata's compression.
This is a myth. Christ you fags like to suck Iwata's dick whenever it's remotely possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 04:32:17 No.35386916 Report

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>>35386858
You're missing the point of Prankster you fucking rube

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 05:30:52 No.35387144 Report

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>>35386284
-2
I’ve seen essentials games coded better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:03:58 No.35387271 Report

Quoted By: >>35387346

To bad OP didn't ask to justify our ratings, this could have been a great thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:38:44 No.35387344 Report

Quoted By: >>35387351 >>35387359

>>35386873
Don't they outright confirm it in USUM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:39:51 No.35387346 Report

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>>35387271
Now that you mention it, it WOULD be good to learn more about why they suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:42:19 No.35387351 Report

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>>35387344
Yeah, in the developer room in USUM one of the devs says that Iwata helped them fit Kanto in GS or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:46:41 No.35387359 Report

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>>35387344
No. The only thing that's confirmed is that he made compression tools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 06:56:52 No.35387377 Report

Quoted By: >>35387402 >>35387607 >>35387835

>>35386284
Do you really think anyone here has seen the games' source code? You're just going to get people like >>35386858 talking about design decisions that have nothing to do with the game's programming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 07:06:39 No.35387402 Report

Quoted By: >>35387656

>>35387377
Doesn't SciresM occasionally come here?

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Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 08:10:39 No.35387607 Report

Quoted By: >>35387628 >>35387662

>>35386284
>>35387377
A few months ago, someone (SciresM, maybe?) analysed and talked about the game code a little. There were baffling and bafflingly incompetent coding designs. I seem to recall that every single time you enter a Pokemon battle the game uncompresses and re-compresses data 15 times, for no apparent reason. The guy said this explained why there's so much slowdown upon entering battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 08:16:09 No.35387628 Report

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>>35387607
Yeah, his analyses are up on his Twitter. That compression cycle thing sounds familiar to the overkill corruption check thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 08:24:05 No.35387656 Report

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>>35387402
Pretty sure he didn't see the real and original code either

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Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 08:26:37 No.35387662 Report

Quoted By: >>35387783

>>35387607
Has he ever made a game?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 08:55:31 No.35387720 Report

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>>35386284
This alone says a lot about their programmers, they're pretty much codemonkeys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 09:20:33 No.35387783 Report

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>>35387662
Does helping do the major cracks for the 3DS and Switch count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 09:28:32 No.35387825 Report

Quoted By: >>35387889

>>35386858
That's not really anything to do with coding, it's just an odd design decision. Prankster didn't really need a nerf, and Dark-types didn't really need a buff.
It's also strange how they decided to make it so that Dark-types are totally immune to the priority moves effected by Prankster, instead of just giving the moves normal priority when used on a Dark-type.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 09:30:31 No.35387835 Report

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>>35387377
>Do you really think anyone here has seen the games' source code?
Yes, because this exists: https://github.com/pret/pokeruby
It may not be 1:1 what Game Freak wrote but it compiles into the same thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 09:41:33 No.35387889 Report

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>>35387825
>Prankster didn't really need a nerf
It didn't *need* one but it allows a lot of cancerous strategies, adding more counterplay to it was a good balancing decision.

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Anonymous Fri 20 Apr 2018 12:44:53 No.35388495 Report

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>>35386284
Try to rip it off in Unity. It's not the fact that it's good or bad, it's that Pokémon becomes exponentially more complicated every single tiny thing you try to add, be it Pokémon or mechanics.

In fact looking at the real code or trying to copy it the games might literally take a decade if you had every gens one off mechanics in one game

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