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ITT: New or Improved Abilities

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:14:05 No.35490506 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35490559 >>35490709 >>35490713

I'll start

New Abilities

>Sprint
Raises user's Speed +1 on switch in if the opposing Pokemon has a faster base Speed stat

>Evergreen
If the user falls below 25% HP due to direct damage, they will regenerate 30% HP at the end of the turn

>Neat Freak
The user removes entry hazards on their side of the field upon switching in

>Loudmouth
Increases damage and accuracy of sound-based moves by 20%

Improved Abilties

>Hyper Cutter
All moves that boost Attack now gain an extra +1 boost to Attack. Retains its old effect too.

>Pickpocket
Retains its old effect, but now also "knocks off" the target's item if the user strikes with a contact move but is already holding an item.

>Run Away
Retains old effect, but also now allows user to escape from being trapped

>Toxic Boost/Flare Boost
Doesn't just boost Att/SpA when afflicted with Psn/Brn, but also when struck with Poison-type/Fire-type damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:23:44 No.35490559 Report

Quoted By: >>35490688

>>35490506
There's a difference between "improve" and "make op", you know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:39:36 No.35490677 Report

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New Abilities:

>Snow Force
Boosts the power of Ice-type attacks by 50% in a hailstorm.

>Primitive Tantrum
Boosts the power of physical attacks by 50% if the previous move cannot affect the opponent.

>Poison Soak
Recovers the user's HP if hit with a Poison-type move.

Improved Abilities

>Flash Fire
Boosts the user's Speed by +1 every time when hit with a Fire-type attack. Old effect is retained.

>Pure Power
Doubles either the user's Sp. Atk or physical Attack. The highest offensive stat is boosted.

>Unnerve
Retains old effect, but also now lowers the foe's Sp. Atk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:41:35 No.35490688 Report

Quoted By: >>35490713

>>35490559
his run away wouldn't be op
The evergreen ability is atrocious, tho

>Compounder
Boosts successive hits of multi-strike moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:45:13 No.35490706 Report

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>Swarm/Blaze/Overgrow/Torrent
Now work at 50% HP
>Run Away
Can now switch out from any situation
>Normalize
All moves also deal double damage to Ghost types
>Wimp Out/Emergency Exit
Now activate at the end of the turn
>Slow Start
Reduced to 3 turns
>Truant
Heals 33% of the Pokémon's HP and cures all status effects when loafing around
>Defeatist
Now works at 25% HP an only lowers each by 1 stage
>Wonder Guard
Now protects from all Status moves and their effects
>Plus/Minus
Now prevents Electric-Types from escaping
>Healer
Now has a 30% chance to heal a party member's status member even when not on the field
>Unnerve
Now prevents all items from working
>Ice Body
Contact moves have a 30% chance of freezing the opponent
>Rivalry
Power is raised by 50% when facing a Pokémon of unknown gender
>Telepathy
Now prevents damage from all spread moves
>Forecast
All Water, Fire, and Ice moves deal double damage. Now gives an immunity to sandstorm
>Flower Gift
Now doubles damage from Grass moves
>Hustle
Now doubles damage
>Vital Spirit
Prevents Taunt and Flinch
>Hyper Cutter
Stat-lowering moves now also raise attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:45:23 No.35490709 Report

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>>35490506
Slow Start causes the Pokemon to start at -1 to the stats on first turn, then +1 for all turns past that.

Truant is ignored by Rest, Sleep Talk, Snore and Slack-Off, and makes the last one heal more.

Illuminate is now accuracy-related Intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:46:08 No.35490713 Report

Quoted By: >>35491061

>>35490506
Run Away already allows you to flee no matter what, but only for wild battles.
>>35490688
Can I get some clarification on Compounder tho
What do you mean by "boosts"? A BP increase, more than 5 hits, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 21:56:24 No.35490788 Report

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>Rough Skin
Same effect. But now raises Speed by one stage when hit by a water type attack.

>Overgrow, Blaze, Torrent
I don't know how to fix these, but they need to be made better and more reliable. Maybe pop them at 1/2 HP instead of 1/3, and just buff the pokemon's Atk and Sp.Atk 2 stages instead of the weird shit it is now. Or maybe activation grants double stab on moves? I don't know. It's a shitty ability and I'm so tired of seeing it on starters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 22:14:44 No.35490907 Report

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>Tempered Steel
Pokemon takes half damage from moves that deal fixed damage
>Diamond Cutter
Pokemon's physical Steel attacks have a heightened critical hit ratio
>Shrapnel Carrier
Pokemon will deal 10% HP damage to all selected targets if KO'd by its own attack
>Extreme Thermal Coating
Damage from Fire and Ice attacks are reduced by 50%; Cannot be frozen or burned from attacks that deal direct damage; Ignores Mold Breaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 06 May 2018 22:37:02 No.35491061 Report

Quoted By: >>35492059

>>35490713
Way too much thought incoming.
I've wanted this as an ability for a long time (probably legendary exclusive)
The base power would increase by 10% with each successive hit. The chance of getting 2, 3, 4, or 5 hits stays the same.
Bullet seed for example
25+25+25+25+25 (each hit)
25, 50, 75, 100, 125 (total base power depending on how many hits)

With the ability:
25+28+31+34+37
25, 53, 84, 118, 155

maybe 10% is not enough, but I don't want it to be broken.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 07 May 2018 01:19:31 No.35492059 Report

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>>35491061
Your damage is actually way too much. I did a rudimentary calc to see how good the effect of Compounder would be, and it turned out monstrous.

For this I'm going to assume that a 5-hit Bullet Seed is the equivalent of a 125 BP Grass move, although the actual numbers are a little different (as seen by moves 1 and 2).

Move 3 is what I imagine the damage of a 25, 28, 31 sequence to be like. Damage is actually fantastic here as Breloom has no investment in Attack aside from IVs and lacks Technician, and can reliably deal 1/3 of a max HP/Def Toxapex's health given 5 hits.

Move 4 is where things get crazy. Using the 25, 53, 84 sequence an uninvested Breloom can kill Toxapex with 5 hits. Note again that vanilla Bullet Seed is a little stronger than the 125 BP move scale I made. I don't know for certain how the actual Compounder boosted move would scale up (or even if it will scale up) but I'm guessing the number would turn out larger.

I realize I may have used some extremities (5 hits doesn't proc every time), but I think my point still stands that Compounder makes a move too strong. Considering that you mentioned it possibly being a legendary exclusive, it may be even stronger depending on the Pokemon's BST and movepool.

I get it's in the ability name and all, but even in real life situations compounding at a 10% rate leads to large figures in a few periods.

If you didn't understand any of that, just imagine the potential to be hit by a 25 BP move, then a 53 BP move, then 84, 118, and ending with 125.
All in the same turn.

tl;dr its too stronk

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