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Anonymous Tue 08 May 2018 22:50:45 No.35503404 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35503446 >>35503726 >>35503926 >>35503938 >>35503941 >>35503998 >>35504193 >>35504514 >>35508117 >>35508192 >>35508349 >>35509241 >>35509314 >>35509867

>48% usage
>almost twice as much usage as based electric rooster of momentum
8x weakness to Ice when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 May 2018 22:57:02 No.35503446 Report

Quoted By: >>35503948 >>35504009

>>35503404
Reminder that Smogon can’t balance a metagame to save their life and bans cheese strats that aren’t even broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 May 2018 23:39:10 No.35503726 Report

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>>35503404
>8x weakness to Ice when?
What would that even do tho? everybody would just keep running their own HP ice lando with speed investment because now that every lando can guaranteed OHKO another lando, all that matters is that yours is faster. Lando would simply not stay in into any ice type anyways, so is not like you're gonna catch it off guard unless you run shit like scarf magearna.

I think at this point in time lando is unfixable without modifying its stats and movepool, since everything else that makes it great (scarf, z-moves, rocky helmet, etc.) is not its fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:14:55 No.35503926 Report

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>>35503404
>8x weakness to Ice when?
would change nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:17:00 No.35503938 Report

Quoted By: >>35503975

>>35503404
Or they can just ban it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:17:15 No.35503941 Report

Quoted By: >>35504028

>>35503404
Does absolutely NO ONE pack Ice type moves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:17:54 No.35503948 Report

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>>35503446
Thank you Verlisify

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:21:54 No.35503975 Report

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>>35503938
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:23:46 No.35503998 Report

Quoted By: >>35510228

>>35503404
>mememogon
Oh nonononoOOOO AHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:26:08 No.35504009 Report

Quoted By: >>35504024 >>35504203

>>35503446
>Shitty official formats are even worse
>Said shitty official formats have even BIGGER banlists (reaching 300 different species banned from play easily) for STUPIDER reasons
>Almost every team is a cookie cutter mirror match.
>Only reason people even watch it or encourage it is because it has cash money backing it up
>Meanwhile Smogon tiers like PU is enjoying actual variety with shitmons like Kingler and whatnot actually having a fighting chance.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:28:50 No.35504024 Report

Quoted By: >>35504042 >>35504062

>>35504009
It's almost as if Pokemon was never meant to be a game with a serious competitive environment, but TPCi saw that autists were making a big scene out of it as soon as the internet became a common addition to any household, and decided to capitalize on it despite the game's balance somehow getting worse with each iteration as GameFreak themselves don't give a flying fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:29:14 No.35504028 Report

Quoted By: >>35504045 >>35509186

>>35503941
Yeah. Lando-T sometimes pack HP Ice.
Tho packing Ice doesn't mean jack if the mon can't switch into a STAB Earthquake without dying or getting 2HKOd.
Literally Game Freak's fault they don't do shit to rebalance Lando-T since it factually dominates even official formats or doing anything to buff Ice to reasonably deal with stuff like Lando.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:31:00 No.35504042 Report

Quoted By: >>35504052

>>35504024
>Official Nintendo Cup dating back to 1997
>"Be the best like no one ever was" - literally implying a competitive nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:31:18 No.35504045 Report

Quoted By: >>35504058

>>35504028
why do you want to nerf a defensive pivot with no recovery?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:32:20 No.35504052 Report

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>>35504042
No shut up you're stupid.
Pokemon is about adventuring with your bros and making love with them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:33:05 No.35504058 Report

Quoted By: >>35504226

>>35504045
I don't. But if it'll get the scrubs to stop crying and get GF to actually not be lazy about their game, that's a win in my book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:33:26 No.35504062 Report

Quoted By: >>35504075 >>35504083 >>35504095

>>35504024
>make an RPG where you can trade and play against your friends
>LMAO RETARDS POKEMON WAS NEVER MEANT TO HAVE A COMPETITIVE SCENE

why are you alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:35:26 No.35504075 Report

Quoted By: >>35504086

>>35504062
No you idiot that was always optional stuff only dumb socialfags did.
You don't love you're Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:36:32 No.35504083 Report

Quoted By: >>35504089 >>35508376

>>35504062
>Friendly matches and trading
>somehow intended to be competitive
I think it was just supposed to be fun, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:37:03 No.35504086 Report

Quoted By: >>35504154

>>35504075
Love is merely an exploitable statistic that powers up Return

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:38:40 No.35504089 Report

Quoted By: >>35504100

>>35504083
Ever occur to you competitive is fun for some people? That fun is a preference? That some people enjoy being good at something they love? It's not they're forced to do it. It's just as optional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:39:22 No.35504095 Report

Quoted By: >>35504103

>>35504062
You can battle, yes, but it was meant more for casual play where you can use pretty much any Pokemon that isn't an irredeemable shitmon and they'll be viable to some degree because you're just battling for the sake of dicking around.
Competitive doesn't allow for that and promotes cookie cutter sets because of the retardedly strict rules from both Official Formats and Smogon Formats, and you'll only ever see the same 6-10 staples with very little deviation unless it's some shitmon that happens to hold a niche in some aspect because quite literally every other Pokemon that could wield that niche is banned from the Format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:40:32 No.35504100 Report

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>>35504089
No shut up competitive is not fun all it is is dummies using broken strategies like toxic and making fun of my team

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:40:48 No.35504103 Report

Quoted By: >>35504107

>>35504095
Except that Smogon actually allows variety for shitmons because PU and such exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:41:41 No.35504107 Report

Quoted By: >>35504121

>>35504103
No fuck you those tiers don't exist their not even on battlespot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:44:30 No.35504121 Report

Quoted By: >>35504127

>>35504107
Battle Spot would have to be an actually good meta to allow for that kind of thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:45:40 No.35504127 Report

Quoted By: >>35504147

>>35504121
No you just suck I sweep everyone with my donphan and jolteon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:48:42 No.35504147 Report

Quoted By: >>35504170

>>35504127
>Literally using poor man's Hippowdon and Tapu Koko

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:49:17 No.35504154 Report

Quoted By: >>35504230

>>35504086
B...but I love you, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:52:16 No.35504170 Report

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>>35504147
>using nu-gen cancer
>using legendaries

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:54:56 No.35504193 Report

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>>35503404
>48%
>was above 50% months ago
totally normal, merely a glue mon i swear :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:56:19 No.35504203 Report

Quoted By: >>35504215

>>35504009
>mom they talk bad about smogon in a reasonable way again
>mom pls!
>mom do something waaaaah
look at this anon and laught at her

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:57:58 No.35504215 Report

Quoted By: >>35508141

>>35504203
Pretty much this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:59:19 No.35504226 Report

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>>35504058
Scrubs will never stop crying and Gamefreak will keep being lazy until the money stops rolling in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 00:59:46 No.35504230 Report

Quoted By:

>>35504154
Good. Your power on Return has maxed out at 102. Now make yourself useful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 01:51:16 No.35504514 Report

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>>35503404
>8x weakness to a type that already kills Landorus-T on contact anyway and is almost never seen as STAB either when?
Nah. Nerf Intimidate. Making Dragons immune to it like Dark-types are immune to Prankster might help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 01:54:30 No.35504543 Report

Quoted By: >>35505771

Question about Smogon I just got banned from using my forum account now due of rule violation I can't use it how do I get unban

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 08:07:10 No.35505771 Report

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>>35504543
What did you do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 09:45:11 No.35505991 Report

Quoted By: >>35508134 >>35510036

>Most used mon for THREE generations straight (read: SIX years)
>Even worse in VGC
>b-but it's just balanced and totally not overcentralizing git gud :^^^^)
I don't give a shit if it's actually not broken, this kind of garbage deserves a ban regardless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:17:35 No.35508117 Report

Quoted By: >>35508132 >>35508169 >>35508196

>>35503404
Just ban legendaries from competitive, problem solved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:20:54 No.35508132 Report

Quoted By: >>35508137 >>35508144 >>35508196

>>35508117
>Regigigas is overpowered and needs to be banned
>Salamence-Mega is fine and balanced

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:21:13 No.35508134 Report

Quoted By: >>35509247

>>35505991
>Most used mon for THREE generations straight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:22:15 No.35508137 Report

Quoted By: >>35508196 >>35511167

>>35508132
It's OBJECTIVELY impossible for non legendaries to be broken idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:23:27 No.35508141 Report

Quoted By: >>35508156

>>35504215
>mom can i post the meme with that one guy from youtube that is an inside joke on smogon as a funny reply to hide my anger?
>thank you here i go, haha this will show them
>ok mom, posted it, this will be epic, they will never realize this forced meme images i have in my prosmogon folder are all coming from the same person
>i promise i will take care of you mom once smogon pays me for my service
tell me if it's accurate enough sweetie

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:23:49 No.35508144 Report

Quoted By: >>35508167 >>35508196 >>35511174

>>35508132
As much as I like Regigigas nobody uses him anyways
And If I remember correctly none of Salamence' counters were legends in the first place, so banning them changes nothing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:25:52 No.35508156 Report

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>>35508141
>agree with you
>gets mad about it
what is wrong with you?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:30:26 No.35508167 Report

Quoted By: >>35508187

>>35508144
>Salamence
>Counters

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:30:50 No.35508169 Report

Quoted By: >>35508195 >>35508251

>>35508117
This.
How am I supposed to RP as a regular trainer using his bros if everyone has LITERAL GODS on thier teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:34:14 No.35508187 Report

Quoted By: >>35508196 >>35508534

>>35508167
I know MSalamence is kinda too strong, but adding even stronger mons into the bowl just so it can be defeated is like the opposite of actually solving the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:35:17 No.35508192 Report

Quoted By:

>>35503404
Why couldn't they just keep Greninja?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:35:35 No.35508195 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508169
>being an rpfag in a competitive scene.

Well at least I can enjoy the easy wins against you anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:35:47 No.35508196 Report

Quoted By: >>35508212 >>35508218

>>35508117
>>35508132
>>35508132
>>35508137
>>35508144
>>35508187
Just ban Legends, Megas, Z-Moves, Hidden Abilities and anything with a BST higher than 555, bro!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:38:22 No.35508212 Report

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>>35508196
>lol let's shit up the thread instead of having actual discussion!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:39:11 No.35508218 Report

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>>35508196
>banning Z-Moves
b-but how will my bro ever compete without Z-Conversion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:43:57 No.35508236 Report

Quoted By: >>35508245 >>35511187

Banning legendaries is OBJECTIVELY the best course of action.
>m-muh phione
A few shitmon no one uses anyways fetting banned is not a big deal. What is a big deal is that legendaries go against the spirit of Pokemon and usually outclass nornal Pokemon, leading to a smaller variety of Pokemon.
>m-mega gengar isnt a legendary and is busted!
Obviously you ban other busted shit like M-Gar and M-Mence alongside the legendaries.

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:45:50 No.35508245 Report

Quoted By: >>35508253

>>35508236
>ban all legendary pokemon
>but also ban "regular" mons too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:46:40 No.35508251 Report

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>>35508169
>RP as a regular nobody
But you can be a regular nobody in real life? You don't need a pokemon game to do that. I see no reason not to RP as a cool badass with actual good pokemon AND your bros.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:47:06 No.35508253 Report

Quoted By: >>35508270 >>35508285 >>35508333 >>35508377

>>35508245
Give me a good reason why you cant do both

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:50:35 No.35508270 Report

Quoted By: >>35508274

>>35508253
Because that’s what smogon does idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:51:39 No.35508274 Report

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>>35508270
>implying smogon banned all legendaries
Man I sure an glad Lando-T isn't dominating OU right now haha

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:52:53 No.35508285 Report

Quoted By: >>35508306

>>35508253
By your logic, legendaries outclass everything regardless of their actual viability, and at the same time banning regular mons only makes the number of viable mons even more constrained. Go back to eating glue in the corner, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:58:12 No.35508306 Report

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>>35508285
>legendaries outclass everything regardless of their actual viability
They do for the most part, or at least they did before Megas were introduced, which give Pokemon strength comparable to a legend. In fact most legendaries are already not allowed, why should we arbitrarily let some be usable?
>banning regular mons only makes the number of viable mons even more constrained
No? If you ban something that's clearly above everything else then team building become much less restricted since you dont have to build around said mon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 19:58:45 No.35508307 Report

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the Genie trio was a fucking mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:06:14 No.35508333 Report

Quoted By: >>35508348

>>35508253
Because like half of them are pretty bad in Ubers and it's fun to play them in a place where they actually do shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:09:02 No.35508348 Report

Quoted By: >>35508383

>>35508333
Meanwhile the other half is infesting the higher ranks and forcing Pokemon to lower tiers, where they become outclassed by the low tier legendaries in the lower tiers and forced to live a life of shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:09:10 No.35508349 Report

Quoted By: >>35508362 >>35508368 >>35508371

>>35503404
More like Thousand Arrows event when so it can finally get banned?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:11:21 No.35508362 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508349
a-anon please you're scaring me
think of the children

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:12:39 No.35508368 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508349
Patrician opinion

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:12:45 No.35508369 Report

Quoted By: >>35508418

Somebody explain Heatran 19% usage to a brainlet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:13:05 No.35508371 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508349
>implying GameFreak wouldn't introduce a metric assload of 'mons that are too strong for OU but too weak for Ubers that JUST SO HAPPEN to be kept in line by Thousand Arrows Lando-T

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:14:12 No.35508376 Report

Quoted By: >>35508393

>>35504083
If it was just suppose to be """"fun"""" Game Freak would have never added EVs, or IVs, or Natures, or numerous adjustments in the attempt to balance the doubles format, or battle facilities, or online competitions, or hell PvP in the first place.

Yeah, some people take things too far, but that goes for literally every aspect in human life. Pokemon was always meant to have a competitive side since its still one of the literal handful of turn based RPGs that have a PvP aspect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:14:13 No.35508377 Report

Quoted By: >>35508443

>>35508253
Because that's two completely contradictory methods of banning things.
Banning all legends because of RP autism has nothing to do with them being broken.
So you have some pokemon banned because of a meaningless title while some are banned for balance.
It's extremely inconsistent.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:14:39 No.35508383 Report

Quoted By: >>35508443

>>35508348
unironically thinking that is justification for banning shit like the regis and legendary birds

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:16:10 No.35508393 Report

Quoted By: >>35508406

>>35508376
>EVs, IVs and Natures
Were created because GameFreak has a strong belief in making every individual Pokemon unique.
Problem is, they're all forged in such a way that you're forced to play Eugenics/Soft Reset Simulator or Inject in order to acquire an Apex Specimen of the Pokemon in question so it can compete against identical Pokemon lest it loses due to a very small yet very significant difference in stats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:17:54 No.35508406 Report

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>>35508393
anon, I like using my bros as much as anyone else, but even I know that banning all legendaries ain't bringing my boy Ledian to OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:19:48 No.35508418 Report

Quoted By: >>35508442

>>35508369
>beefy as fuck
>immune to poison, can't be toxic stalled
>immune to fire, can't be burned
>access to both taunt and stealth rock
>air balloon helps negate its biggest weakness
>hits pretty hard without investment, allows EVs to put into defenses and boosting its mediocre speed
>can trap with magma storm
>resists NINE types

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:24:07 No.35508442 Report

Quoted By: >>35508517

>>35508418
>unironically mentioning meme balloon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:24:14 No.35508443 Report

Quoted By: >>35508469 >>35508638

>>35508383
If a few legendaries no one uses are gone for the greater good of making OU less cancerous, nothing of value is lost since no one was using them in the first place.

>>35508377
I dont care that much about RP autism, although I would be lying if I said improving that aspect of it was a bad thing. Banning all legendaries instead of arbitrarily keeping some would make for a much healthier meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:29:08 No.35508469 Report

Quoted By: >>35508488

>>35508443
Because Toxapex and Koko/Lucha shenanigans are so healthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:32:05 No.35508488 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508469
Koko is a legendary and balance with toxapex mainly works because of legendary teammates, although yes Tozapex is cancerous.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:38:17 No.35508517 Report

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>>35508442
I haven't played in a while. Is it not considered viable anymore? I know it was always sorta gimmicky but I liked using it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 20:43:41 No.35508534 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508187
mega salamence is in ubers. they brought it up as an example of a broken non-legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 21:06:32 No.35508638 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508443
>a few legendaries no one uses
55 actually. 81 if including alternative forms. None of which are broken btw.
>muh cancer
nice meme
>Banning all legendaries instead of arbitrarily keeping some
>banning Pokemon that aren't broken is arbitrary
>banning over 50 Pokemon because they have a meaningless title isn't
nice mental gymnastics
>would make for a much healthier meta.
100% theorymonning on your part.
You have no idea how the meta would look afterwards. I'm sure you'd find something else to complain about.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 21:46:20 No.35508836 Report

Quoted By: >>35508848

>ban all legends!!!
yeah I'm sure regigigas will appreciate that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 21:48:41 No.35508848 Report

Quoted By: >>35508964

>>35508836
>Regigigas
>not completely broken

To be fair, you need a very high I.Q. to properly understand the Regi meta.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:06:28 No.35508964 Report

Quoted By: >>35508997

>>35508848
>normal-type with base 90 attack and base 50 speed for 5 fucking turns
good luck lasting that long in a tier where hitmonchan exists

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:10:17 No.35508997 Report

Quoted By: >>35509054 >>35509171

>>35508964
>base 90 attack and base 50 speed for 5 fucking turns
you wish, it halves its effective stats not base stats
this is what its stats actually look like with max Atk investment

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:17:29 No.35509054 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508997
Still, it means you have to keep your normal-type mon out for 5 whole turns, with only Leftovers for recovery. That's plenty of time for anything with a good setup move to boost itself up and shit on the rest of your team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:30:28 No.35509133 Report

Quoted By: >>35509144 >>35509178

Okay guys, what if we had a compromise:
All the legends are banned, and all the pokemon that aren't legendary but are really fucking obnoxious/overpowered that aren't legendary, such as Blaziken, Toxapex, Mega Salamence, and Aegislash are also banned. Now you can be autistic and pretend to be a normal average joe, and also play in an environment generally free of stupid bullshit that's nearly impossible to paly around.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:34:06 No.35509144 Report

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>>35509133
That still means useless shit like Regi and the Lake trio are forced into a meta where they can't function worth a damn, you moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:39:32 No.35509171 Report

Quoted By: >>35509175 >>35509188

>>35508997
I'm not that knowledgable about lower tiers, but with those defenses shouldn't it serve as a decent wall? E.g. Toxic / Rest / Knock Off / Sleep Talk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:40:35 No.35509175 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509171
>Rest
hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:40:48 No.35509178 Report

Quoted By: >>35509204

>>35509133
You do realize that the meta that you suggest would be pure stall, since the majority of the pokemon you suggest on removing are the only stall breakers in their metas? It's as if the Sab/Skar/Alo core doesn't exist to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:42:58 No.35509186 Report

Quoted By:

>>35504028
Incineroar sees more usage in the official format tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:43:32 No.35509188 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509171
Regi doesn't learn Rest (or any other recovery move) which is part of the reason why it's so damn worthless and why banning it just because of an arbitrary title is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:46:17 No.35509204 Report

Quoted By: >>35509234

>>35509178
Yeah, simple, just ban Mega Sableye and Chansey/Blissey. There, stall is kill forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:54:03 No.35509234 Report

Quoted By: >>35509252 >>35509290

>>35509204
Espeon functions as Mega Sab sub, while Chansey/Blissey aren't required for stall, especially nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:55:08 No.35509241 Report

Quoted By:

>>35503404
I hope gen 8 introduces a really strong Ice type

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:57:05 No.35509247 Report

Quoted By: >>35509270

>>35508134
5,6,7

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 22:58:24 No.35509252 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509234
Espeon has piss poor defenses and doesn't spinblock. No one started using it after Mega Sableye was banned at the very end of Gen-6. You never see RU or UU teams using Espeon as a wall, ever. It's just too frail. It can't be used as a replacement for Mega Sableye.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:00:42 No.35509270 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509247
>>>5

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:02:00 No.35509280 Report

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>ban legendaries
>stall is suddenly the best style
wtf

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:03:57 No.35509290 Report

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>>35509234
Espeon doesn't get Will-o-wisp so it can't cripple physical attackers. Espeon can be pursuit trapped by common Stealth Rock setters, such as Tyranitar, Aerodactly, and Krookodile. It just doesn't cut it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:08:30 No.35509314 Report

Quoted By: >>35509361

>>35503404
>more than 60% of them are defensive lando
>like 20% are scarf
>5% focus Sash meme lead with explosion
Yeah it's really hard to build a team that doesn't autolose to Lando m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:15:19 No.35509361 Report

Quoted By: >>35509393

>>35509314
The ones I encounter are something more like 50% defensive, 25% scarf, and 25% Z-crystal, more leaning toward Supersonic Skystrike, but I do see a Continental Crush every now and then. Those Supersonic Skystrike sets are fucking annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:20:41 No.35509391 Report

Quoted By: >>35509440 >>35509504 >>35509613 >>35510098 >>35510271 >>35511309

The sensible thing would be to ban legendaries and make ladders based on BST and movepools.
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Mega-X
Mega Evolution is supposed to give regular pokémon the power of a legendary pokémon:
>The power-up of Mega Evolved Pokémon is meant to elevate them to the class of legendary Pokémon, hence the restriction of only one Pokémon being allowed to hold a Mega Stone during battles.
https://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_Dream_interview_reveals_new_mechanic_changes?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
So yeah, banning megas makes sense. Z-Moves are more balanced so they can stay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:20:51 No.35509393 Report

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>>35509361
Yeah I forgot about Z-Lando

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:25:23 No.35509413 Report

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The worst thing about these threads is that I can't even tell trolls from genuine retards anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:28:43 No.35509435 Report

Quoted By: >>35509588

just introduce sneaky icicles

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:29:31 No.35509440 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509391
This.
How is an average trainer supposed to get megas and rare af legends? This makes it much easier to erp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:40:46 No.35509504 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509391
>based on BST and Movepools
Who judges the value of the movepools?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:53:54 No.35509588 Report

Quoted By: >>35509676

>>35509435
Funny enough, that + rocks + 3 spikes wouldn't OHKO anything without Gravity shenanigans. Doesn't make it balanced but still

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 May 2018 23:58:22 No.35509613 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509391
Verlis, go away. You don't know jack shit about how competitive Pokemon works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 00:09:53 No.35509676 Report

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>>35509588
sneaky pebbles isn't balanced either
only this time instead of kicking poor bug types while they're down it wrecks ground types

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 00:43:10 No.35509867 Report

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>>35503404
nothing can stump the lion m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:13:49 No.35510036 Report

Quoted By: >>35510109 >>35510135 >>35510157

>>35505991
>If it's popular, it must be broken
Landorus-T isn't even the most popular Pokemon in OU throughout its history. Tauros, Snorlax, and Tyranitar were significantly used more than modern Landorus-T. All 3 in Gens 1-4 respectively are about 55% to 98% in usage
See for yourself
https://www.smogon.com/stats/2018-04/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:27:00 No.35510098 Report

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>>35509391
>make ladders based on BST and movepools
This is the stupidest thing I have read on this sight all week.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:29:35 No.35510109 Report

Quoted By: >>35510120 >>35510216 >>35510257

>>35510036
except 9 times out of 10, shit like RBY Snorlax and GSC Snorlax are running virtually the exact same sets, meanwhile Lando's got options for days. Scarf, defensive, Groundium/Flyinium, Rocks lead...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:32:12 No.35510120 Report

Quoted By:

>>35510109
*RBY Tauros

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:36:07 No.35510135 Report

Quoted By:

>>35510036
>Gens 1-4
WeLl GeE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:38:09 No.35510157 Report

Quoted By:

>>35510036
There were significantly less options back then, there are over 800 Pokemon now, one Pokemon having usage this high is a clear sign that it's broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:46:11 No.35510216 Report

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>>35510109
GSC Snorlax had a variety of sets too, all three being drastically different (Curse, Belly Drum, Mixed Attacker), along with RSE and DPPt Tyranitar (DD, Curse, Special, Scarf, Band, Mixed, Support, Lure). All these sets were drastically different with Landorus-T biggest differences in sets what item it has and it's EV spread with some move variations, and among those variations are using defensive pivot, an offensive pivot, a rare suicide lead, and 2 Z-move based sets.
So not only is landorus-T less used than Snorlax and Tyranitar in their respective generations, but uses less variety too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:46:56 No.35510228 Report

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>>35503998
Pretty sure vgc is dominated by LandoT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:50:55 No.35510257 Report

Quoted By: >>35510462

>>35510109
you've never played either of those metas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 01:52:42 No.35510271 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509391
Yeah man Articuno is so strong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 02:20:07 No.35510462 Report

Quoted By: >>35511182

>>35510257
Because I like my battles to have a sense of creativity in teambuilding rather than using the same copy/paste Big Four/curse and resttalk sets :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 04:38:23 No.35511167 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508137
What is Naganadel? What is Speed Boost Blaziken? Stfu, dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 04:40:34 No.35511174 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508144
>As much as I like Regigigas nobody uses him anyways
You don't say, you dumb faggot? Why do you think that happens, huh? Because they gave it an ability that makes Regigigas, a legendary, worse than most fully-evolved non-legendary Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 04:42:41 No.35511182 Report

Quoted By:

>>35510462
>he doesn't play old gens
scrub

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 04:43:49 No.35511187 Report

Quoted By:

>>35508236
Stfu, you dumb piece of shit. Do you think Articuno is broken? Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 May 2018 05:12:26 No.35511309 Report

Quoted By:

>>35509391
Some branch-off Showdown site tried this along with a point per pokemon system and died in less than a month.

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