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Game Freak is Mocking Us

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:21:49 No.35557653 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35557683 >>35557747 >>35557757 >>35557790 >>35558050 >>35558068 >>35558136 >>35558484 >>35560249

Everybody wanted a good game for the Switch, but Game Freak is so out of touch with its fanbase because it wants to appeal to the casual players.
>Back to Kanto for the 12th time
>No new Pokemon
>No new Mega Evolutions
>No new regional variants
>No quality graphics
>Battling and catching mechanics from Pokemon GO!

What is this nonsense? People should stop supporting Pokemon until Game Freak finally gets off their lazy asses and actually develop a QUALITY game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:23:09 No.35557670 Report

Quoted By: >>35558884

Nah I'm gonna buy it just to piss you off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:24:29 No.35557683 Report

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>>35557653
How about you hold off on this shit until they actually announce something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:25:06 No.35557688 Report

Quoted By: >>35557707 >>35557740 >>35558146

>red, blue, yellow, gold, silver, crystal, firered, leafgreen, heartgold, soulsilver

Holy hell this is actually going to be the 11th and 12th games that have Kanto, and that's not even counting Green.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:26:43 No.35557707 Report

Quoted By: >>35557740

>>35557688
Gen I: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow (4)
Gen II: Gold, Silver, Crystal (3)
Gen III: FR, LG (2)
Gen IV: HG, SS (2)
"Gen VIII": Pikachu and maybe Eevee (1 or 2)

12 or 13 Kanto games. Smh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:26:58 No.35557711 Report

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Ill take anything for the switch that comes out soon and is at minimum 720p

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:30:26 No.35557740 Report

Quoted By: >>35557794

>>35557688
>>35557707
>Gen I: Red, Green, Blue, Yellow (4)
>Gen II: Gold, Silver, Crystal (3)
>Gen III: FR, LG (2)
>Gen IV: HG, SS (2)
>"Gen VIII": Pikachu and maybe Eevee (1 or 2)
Don't forget the gen V trying to recreate the "feeling" of Gen 1, and the ubiquitous amounts of Kanto pandering in gen 6 & 7. Can't they just let it go for once?

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:31:04 No.35557747 Report

Quoted By: >>35557768 >>35557770 >>35557780 >>35557794 >>35557866 >>35558894

>>35557653
>No new Pokemon
We don’t know that
>No new Mega Evolutions
We don’t know that
>No new regional variants
We don’t know that
>No quality graphics
We don’t know that
>Battling and catching mechanics from Pokemon GO!
It said catching not battling

Overall shit thread OP. Your being a dramatic crybaby over things that haven’t even been announced. Stop flipping shit over a leak, what is this reddit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:32:56 No.35557757 Report

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>>35557653
Autist meltdown over stuff he made up in his own head - only on r/4chan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:33:50 No.35557768 Report

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>>35557747
Beat me to it, but well said.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:34:03 No.35557770 Report

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>>35557747
Came here to call OP a fag but this about sums it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:35:45 No.35557780 Report

Quoted By: >>35557787

>>35557747
>>No new Pokemon
>We don’t know that
>>No new Mega Evolutions
>We don’t know that
>>No new regional variants
>We don’t know that
Not trying to say the game will/won't have them, but actually having those would defeat the purpose of the game (cashing into easy nostalgiafags bucks). Those would turn off an entire demographic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:36:38 No.35557787 Report

Quoted By: >>35557814

>>35557780
You're retarded. If it has the word Pokemon in the title every demographic is going to lap it up just like every single other Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:36:56 No.35557790 Report

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>>35557653
>rumors point to the new games taking place in Kanto
>everyone immediately knows everything about the new games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:37:21 No.35557794 Report

Quoted By: >>35557807 >>35557815 >>35557821 >>35557840 >>35557969 >>35558080

>>35557740
No they can't. It's sick.

>>35557747
>We don't know that

If this game is coming out this year, then the fact that it hasn't been announced yet means there's no content in it. It's bare bones. During XY and SM's release cycles, we had numerous Pokemon revealed for those games by this point (mid-May). Also bear in mind that this game just began development last year, as opposed to the usual 2-3 year development cycle, and this is also going to be on a new console, meaning that GF doesn't have enough time or manpower to design dozens of new Pokemon on top of optimizing everything for the Switch title.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:37:44 No.35557798 Report

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At this point I think you people are just making shit up to force yourselves to be pissed off as a coping mechanism for leaving your favorite franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:38:39 No.35557807 Report

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>>35557794
>things i made up in my head are real and im not just an autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:39:35 No.35557814 Report

Quoted By: >>35557828

>>35557787
Learn to read, you nigger. I'm not saying the games will flop, I'm saying going for a nostalgia-flavored game but then turn away the nostalgiafags with newer mechanics is counter productive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:39:46 No.35557815 Report

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>>35557794
>started development last year
Honey...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:40:33 No.35557821 Report

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>>35557794
>Also bear in mind that this game just began development last year
Nope. It's reasonable to believe the game has been in development since around the release of SM, with planning starting back in 2015 when Switch devkits were handed out.

>the fact that it hasn't been announced yet means there's no content in it
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:41:17 No.35557828 Report

Quoted By: >>35557874

>>35557814
You act like the nostalgiafags dont buy the new games anyway. These people spouting nostalgia shit arent fooling anybody. If they're such nostalgiafags why do they spend all day talking about the new games which they somehow know all about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:43:11 No.35557840 Report

Quoted By: >>35557908

>>35557794
This might be the dumbest post I've ever read

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:45:42 No.35557866 Report

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>>35557747
This.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:46:33 No.35557874 Report

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>>35557828
/vp/ isn't the entire pokemon fanbase though.
Somewhere someone would have actually bought the game just for being Kanto pandering

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:49:27 No.35557897 Report

Quoted By: >>35558042 >>35558067 >>35558510 >>35558685 >>35558788 >>35561365 >>35561485

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:50:14 No.35557908 Report

Quoted By: >>35557969 >>35557973

>>35557840
It's a legitimate complaint, and I've seen dumber shit on the Internet.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:51:15 No.35557922 Report

Quoted By: >>35557971

>New evolve method : need 2000 pokego candies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:57:09 No.35557969 Report

Quoted By: >>35558080

>>35557908
>Legitimate complain
It is kanto pandering game
What NEW MONS, fucking retard? What shit is there to shill? You are just proving you are an idiot, that doesn't know what the normies, genwunners and nostalgia faggots can do for this region. Fuck off. Don't apologize for faggots saying retarded shit, or if you are >>35557794 then kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:57:14 No.35557971 Report

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>>35557922
hell
no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 03:57:30 No.35557973 Report

Quoted By: >>35558080

>>35557908
Its not, that person doesnt understand how video games are made. Its going to be bare bones because of no announcements? Gamefreak doesnt have time to make the game because we only knew it existed last year? That shit is asinine, you cant deny it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:07:14 No.35558042 Report

Quoted By: >>35558697

>>35557897
FUCK

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:09:08 No.35558050 Report

Quoted By: >>35558076 >>35558240 >>35560249

>>35557653
It's too bad their "fanbase" makes up a small majority of their sales. And even then, most of the fanbase will eat up any shit they throw out anyway.

Gamefreaks approach to pokemon is very simple: Get your average japanese toddler's attention through any means and throw in as much nostalgia pandering as possible because that's what sells to adults. That way they can put in as little effort as possible for max profit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:11:27 No.35558067 Report

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>>35557897
Fuck you. I love Rosa though damn is she the cutest thing ever.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:11:31 No.35558068 Report

Quoted By: >>35558876

>>35557653
>but Game Freak is so out of touch with its fanbase because it wants to appeal to the casual players.
You know what the real problem is? Game Freak is too busy looking in to how to "surprise" people in terms of where the series goes to the point where it hurts them and leaves several things in other games unfinished.

>BW come out
>instead of getting the 3rd version which could've shown us the original dragon here's a sequel to the game because lol i bet you weren't expecting that we gotta keep you on your toes haha ;)))) oh and ps kyurem black/white isn't the origimal dragon either now fuck off gen 5 is over
>XY happens
>ok now make a 3rd version of the game that fixes up some of the flaws XY had like maybe letting players explore the Power Plant, or maybe add some new facilities that isn't battle tower
>lol here's oras
>hey that's nice now where's the enhanced version of XY
>GEN 6 OVER NOW IT'S TIME FOR GEN 7 SURPRISE :DDDD
>SM was neat maybe tone down on the cutscenes maybe do something about those unused places like the power plant and add some new facilities that isn't Battle Tower
>ULTRA CHANGING CUTSCENES

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:12:40 No.35558076 Report

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>>35558050
small minority*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:13:23 No.35558080 Report

Quoted By: >>35558108

>>35557969
People were expecting Gen 8 with 80+ new Pokemon and/or regional variants, in a brand new region inspired by Sri Lanka involving two snakes, open world, new starters, new professor, new everything. So some people are going to be upset if it is indeed Kanto with Pikachu and Eevee riding your shoulder. I can see why >>35557794 is upset. You can't fault the guy for having some expectations about a game that everybody's been looking forward to.

>>35557973
Idk why OP assumed it was developed last year. We've had multiple instances of generations being developed before their predecessor was officially released. XY were developed before BW were released, SM apparently started development before XY were released, etc. So it makes sense for this game to have a 2+ year development cycle. I guess OP is just some moron who assumed that they started development right after E3 was up.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:16:42 No.35558108 Report

Quoted By: >>35558109 >>35558136

>>35558080
Again, you are literally damage controlling for a retard that probably doesn't know how big the pokemania was. So you are bnoth looking pretty fucking retarded, kids.
I get very angry when idiotic 18 year olds think they are the big fat shit and pretend their hot juvenile opinions are good while being ignorants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:17:04 No.35558109 Report

Quoted By: >>35558115

>>35558108
>cool guy on the internet

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:18:17 No.35558115 Report

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>>35558109
Yeah, give me another fucking teenage reply
I am sure that will show me, you stupid faggot
Go get your motherfucking diapers changed already

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:22:42 No.35558136 Report

Quoted By: >>35558191 >>35558431 >>35558479

>>35558108
I think some people are just sick of Gen I pandering. At least in XY and SM, there were new Pokemon and forms to compensate, but this game might not even have either of those. There is a strong fear in the community right now that these games won't have anything new to them and are just lazy reimaginings of the Gen I games. High expectations + crappy reality = dumb cucks like >>35557653 raging on the Internet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:24:09 No.35558146 Report

Quoted By: >>35558872 >>35559801

>>35557688
>dual releases count as two games
keep thinking that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:30:11 No.35558191 Report

Quoted By: >>35558888

>>35558136
Yes, I know people is sick of kanto pandering. GF is never gonna drop it, they want those massive sales ever again, hence why you don't really understand the reach of the pokemania craze, it was so massive it is almost historical.
Even your fucking grandmother could tell what a pikachu was because it was forced everywhere.
I understand your complains, but that's the way it is. A company will always chase the biggest profits, so that's exactly what GF does. It is what any col calculating business man would do, really.
If something was successful, then you will push it over and over again, trying to recreate your biggest hit.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 04:36:58 No.35558240 Report

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>>35558050
Those of us who are adults are sick of being pandered to about a game we played 20 years ago.

Kids have no nostalgia for something they never experienced.

Yet GameFreak keeps doing this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:14:16 No.35558431 Report

Quoted By: >>35558465

>>35558136
Im kind of torn. Kanto certainly isn't the best region and even though I bought yellow for VC I didn't finish it because gen 1 didn't age well.

On the other hand it's hands down the most iconic region with the most recognizable group of monsters. Can't blame game freak for trying to take advantage of the nostalgia factor and trying to start another wave of Pokemania.

Pokemon Go did extremely well on release, introducing many new players to the franchise as well as bringing in old ones who probably haven't played since gen 1. The other thing to consider is many who lived through the original Pokemania are now in their late 20's and 30's and have children now who can play, and parents can play too. So much 90's media is currently being rebooted, rereleased, and remade, Pokemon could easily make a huge comeback.

VP had been complaining about pandering for a while now, but another common complaint is that the games are becoming bloated with one-use items, unusable monsters and so on. Now we're getting a game that doesn't seem to be song much new content and vp is losing their shit. If you're never going to be satisfied, may i suggest moving on to a franchise you do enjoy our working on your own romhack?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:21:20 No.35558465 Report

Quoted By: >>35558650

>>35558431
>even though I bought yellow for VC I didn't finish it because gen 1 didn't age well.
Literally falling for the pandering memes, I hope you learned your lesson anon.
And please, you know there is not a hivemind here, so don't pretend people won't constantly bitch. That has never meant that the ones bitching about certain thing bitch about other things too, or that a single groups of faggots dedicately bitch about everything, if those exist they are probably shitposters looking for mad and (You)s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:21:23 No.35558466 Report

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The worst thing is that pokémon was always a game so easy that you could play it blindfolded. People asking for semplification literally means that there are way too much retards in the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:23:08 No.35558479 Report

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>>35558136
If Gamefreak wants to go back to basics and try and recapture what made Pokemon great, they need to actually reimagine things rather than just making a basic Kanto remake.

Take a look at what Breath of the Wild did. They wanted to go back to the feel of the first Zelda, of having to explore around and not having a ton of guidance. Of some of the original art of having Link looking over massive landscapes, and delivering on that original sense of adventure.

Pokemon would need to do something similar to that and put in the effort. There needs to be the actual feelings of wanting to catch them all, of the mystery of finding out about new or rare species of pokemon. Of having an entire world to journey through and of having a different experience.

They're not going to recapture anything by just removing the grid from Viridian forest and putting it in 3D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:23:51 No.35558484 Report

Quoted By: >>35558488 >>35558506

>>35557653
Pokemon's fanbase is fairly autistic. Anything new will set their autism a blaze. So just let this be the true beginning of the downfall of Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:25:03 No.35558488 Report

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>>35558484
There will never be a downfall. As long as they don'tdo something massively idiotic that makes kids leave, every gen new 10 year olds are fresh meat to extract precious cash, and we know those are endless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:27:26 No.35558506 Report

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>>35558484
If gf didn't suck so bad that their switch game being a 3ds reskin is what is expected and every attempt to be different has just made things slowly worse I would agree with you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:27:47 No.35558510 Report

Quoted By: >>35558697

>>35557897
Hasn't gotten me in a while but fuck you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:50:56 No.35558650 Report

Quoted By: >>35558675

>>35558465
>Not a hivemind.
I'll start by saying I've enjoyed Pokemon games over the years. I've frequented vp since gen 6 and honestly I have to say a majority of vp is negative and sends their time bashing the games. I enjoyed gen1-4, emulated 5 (and hated the region), and paid for 6 and 7. X and Y weren't as good as previous games but they were still good. I really enjoyed ORAS, I just wish there had been less hand holding and a battle frontier. Gen 7 was good too, but USUM was a rip-off.
I guess what I'm getting at is I have my own opinion. There has been a slight decline in the games, but maybe I'm just getting older. It just seems like a majority of people on vp are just here to bitch and complain because all Pokemon games aren't like the 1 or 2 games that they like. It just blows my mind that so many people (or possibly a few spamming) are spewing the same negative bullshit day in and day out. If you don't like something that's fine, but why feel the need to visit a discussion board for fans and hate all over something you've given up on?

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:55:39 No.35558675 Report

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>>35558650
>and paid for 6 and 7. X and Y weren't as good as previous games but they were still good.
Surprise, opinions are subjective.
People eventually only talk about the flaws because it is easy to just try and trigger s "hoenn baby, unovabortion, sinnohfetus, genwunner, and johto whatever [seriously forgot what the insult is], so it is express shitposting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 05:57:51 No.35558685 Report

Quoted By: >>35558697

>>35557897
Fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:00:27 No.35558697 Report

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>>35558685
>>35558510
>>35558042
Can you retards explain why you always reply, despite knowing this bait is absolutely powerless? I have ignored like 100+ "your witch mum will die in inyou sleep tonight" and I am sincerely, dissapointed. It is just (You) farming that only gets retards that believe idiotic bullshit like yourselves.
Seriously, can I sell you all a bridge?

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:17:59 No.35558788 Report

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>>35557897

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:31:41 No.35558872 Report

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>>35558146

I'm not op but they are separate games, they have different names, different features and slightly different stories from one another.
So they're not the same game, 2 versions = 2 games you tard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:33:55 No.35558876 Report

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>>35558068
agreed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:35:06 No.35558884 Report

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>>35557670
Me too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:36:24 No.35558888 Report

Quoted By: >>35558902 >>35558912

>>35558191

XY and SM were the highest selling games for the 3DS, they don't need nostalgia to sell games. This is straight up, pure and simple, pandering. Again. They want old fans to come back, you know, they ones who never supported the franchise gen 2 onwards, the ones who jizzed about GO and probably dropped it as soon as Gen 2 came out, you know, those "Fans"

I hate Gamefreak and their way of thinking, I honestly believe that these Kanto games won't sell as well as they think they will, not just on here but I've seen on other boards and forums (ones without degenerate losers) of the uproar from fans, there is only a small group of fans who are happy about Kanto and those are people who never played past gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:38:00 No.35558894 Report

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>>35557747
don't kid yourself, all of what OP said bar the Go mechanics is very very probable.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:40:00 No.35558902 Report

Quoted By: >>35559019

>>35558888
Because the one time they decided to look at the western side of the fanbase for reception (Gen 5), they were met with bitching and moaning from normies on Facebook who haven't actually touched the franchise since Yellow or GS because of objectmons, "overdesigned bullshit" and the fact that no old Pokemon could be caught until postgame.
Sure, they tried to mitigate that last factor with B2W2, but the damage was already done.
GameFreak's idea of what the west is like was eternally cemented by a bunch of fucking faggots who don't actually care about the franchise at all and certainly didn't care about it when they were younger and simply wanted to get in on the latest fad, and we're the ones who have to pay for it.

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 06:40:52 No.35558912 Report

Quoted By: >>35561532

>>35558888
>SM and XY sales
Oh sonny, once again with your idiotic uneducated facts and opinions.
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon
Let's see if you can read tables, and tell me when the hell the number for RBY sales is even closer ever again, in new gens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 07:08:46 No.35559019 Report

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>>35558902
Oh boy this post is golden, can I screencap it, you anon? I am literally asking for your permission. Because you are saying it perfectly how it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 09:50:17 No.35559801 Report

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>>35558146
Dual releases do count as two games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 10:56:24 No.35560249 Report

Quoted By: >>35560765

>>35557653
>"us"
Define "us"
>Back to Kanto for the 12th time
>No new Pokemon
>No new Mega Evolutions
>No new regional variants
>No quality graphics
There's no news on this nor guarantee. No sneak peek yet even.
>Battling and catching mechanics from Pokemon GO!
The rumor is about catching mechanics, not battling.
>should stop supporting GF
How would a company keep moving if people like you hindering it's progress?
Fuck off.
>>35558050
It's a fucking game for children, not adults at first place.
And it always should be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 11:54:04 No.35560765 Report

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>>35560249
>Nothing is guaranteed
You're right, but the people who say this is real are pointing out that this is a remake of Yellow.

>The rumor is about catching mechanics, not battling.
Battling might be real-time with dodging, just like GO!

>How would a company keep moving if people like you hindering it's progress? Fuck off.

A company is only out to make money, which means that they'll release the same garbage if it sells more. It's not what a true Pokefan wants. It should be quality over quantity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 13:07:54 No.35561365 Report

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>>35557897
faggot

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 13:22:00 No.35561485 Report

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>>35557897
Jokes on you anon my mom already died yesterday

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Anonymous Wed 16 May 2018 13:26:13 No.35561532 Report

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>>35558912
And ORAS outsold kanto remakes and johto remakes

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