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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:32:02 No.35644665 View View Reply Original Report

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>After 7 years Pikachu finally replaced electroball
>...with electroweb

OH NO NO NO NO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:32:41 No.35644669 Report

Quoted By: >>35645793 >>35646426 >>35648719 >>35649215

>>35644665
Shouda went with Thunder Punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:33:45 No.35644675 Report

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>>35644665
Can someone explain the busted glass in the background?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:33:57 No.35644676 Report

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>>35644665
>Spiderchu for Let's Go confirmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:34:15 No.35644678 Report

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>>35644675
it got busted

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:34:32 No.35644680 Report

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>>35644675
They are battling at the Abandoned Thrifty Megamart on Ula'ula Island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:35:00 No.35644683 Report

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>>35644675
Its the abandoned shop where ecerything is destroyed i guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:35:48 No.35644689 Report

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>>35644680
>>35644683
Appreciate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:38:15 No.35644700 Report

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>>35644665
That is actually retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:38:26 No.35644701 Report

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>>35644665
Well Electro Ball fucking sucks and Electroweb actually has some uses. Plus I'm sure Electroweb will have plenty of anime physics applied to it to make it super useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:39:37 No.35644707 Report

Quoted By: >>35647992

>>35644701
>Plus I'm sure Electroweb will have plenty of anime physics applied to it to make it super usefeful
if pikachu uses it on itself it works the same as protect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:43:42 No.35644730 Report

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>>35644701
I hope Thunder Armor makes a comeback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:45:24 No.35644739 Report

Quoted By: >>35644774 >>35644923 >>35645012 >>35645429

>Pikachu blocks a Z-move by usng electroweb on himself
This is thunder armor tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:50:42 No.35644774 Report

Quoted By: >>35648162

>>35644739
I'm confident nothing beats Thunder Armor. At least it looks like a version of Protect. Thunder Armor was literally using a super-effective move on a Pokémon to make it invulnerable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:52:33 No.35644786 Report

Quoted By: >>35644823

>>35644295

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 13:58:33 No.35644823 Report

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>>35644786
If I recall that chapter correctly, it's a little different from this. Galvantula set up the web just to keep Croagunk from approaching it. It didn't actually shield Galvantula from attacks.
Pikachu blocked a fucking Z-move with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:05:26 No.35644855 Report

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>>35644823
Yeah in the anime they even can dodge Z-moves, it makes sense tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:11:59 No.35644896 Report

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>>35644665
This is good because Thunderbolt and Electro Ball were both long range attacks

Now it has two close range attacks (Quick Attack and Iron Tail), a long range attack (Thunderbolt), and a trapping/shield attack (Electroweb).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:16:02 No.35644923 Report

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>>35644739
That'd be more like counter shield

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:19:21 No.35644954 Report

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>>35644665
>He thinks the base power/effect of attacks matters in the anime

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:24:42 No.35644982 Report

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>>35644954
This, in the anime, Cut is equal to Night Slash with the only difference being that one is a white sword and the other is a purple sword

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:25:37 No.35644987 Report

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>>35644982
night slash is also a longer sword while cut are small blades

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:28:15 No.35644999 Report

Quoted By: >>35645020

I legit did not know Pikachu could learn that. I'm actually surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:30:42 No.35645012 Report

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>>35644739
Considering that the Z-Move in question is Let's Snuggle Forever, it makes sense

Let's Snuggle Forever is also a contact move in-game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:31:45 No.35645020 Report

Quoted By: >>35645054 >>35645073

>>35644999
As a Tutor Move, yes.
Which raises more questions than it should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:32:35 No.35645030 Report

Quoted By: >>35645531 >>35645734 >>35645744

Any webm of that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:35:58 No.35645054 Report

Quoted By: >>35645245

>>35645020

Well technically Volt Tackle could only be learned by breeding. The anime has always played fast and loose with the rules of the game, I'm surprised anyone is surprised at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:39:43 No.35645073 Report

Quoted By: >>35645090 >>35645756 >>35646205

>>35645020
TMs and tutors aren't a thing in the anime, Pokemon can just learn any move by training or randomly.

I.E. Ash teaching Bullet Seed to his Treecko, or Aerial Ace to Krookodile, or Krookodile learning Dragon Claw immediately upon evolving

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:44:50 No.35645090 Report

Quoted By: >>35646177

>>35645073

Kinda, remember that lady that taught Ash's Gible Draco Meteor in Sinnoh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:07:38 No.35645233 Report

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That's actually pretty radical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:10:31 No.35645245 Report

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>>35645054
Locomovolt also by Move Tutor in gen 7

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:30:48 No.35645370 Report

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>>35644665
Pikachu can learn Electroweb?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:35:00 No.35645385 Report

Quoted By: >>35645809

>look up who can learn Electroweb
>fucking Passimian gets it
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:36:59 No.35645397 Report

Quoted By: >>35645413 >>35645418

couldn't they just have kept the volt tackle? it's literally the signature move of the entire line

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:39:31 No.35645413 Report

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>>35645397
Because Pikachu already had Quick Attack.
As far as the anime's concerned, Quick Attack has potential to be stronger with none of the recoil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:40:32 No.35645418 Report

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>>35645397
Quick Attack and Thunderbolt had seniority (Pikachu's known them since the original series), Iron Tail is its melee attack (and gives it something to use against Ground types)

So when giving Pikachu a new move, Volt Tackle was the obvious choice to replace

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:43:21 No.35645429 Report

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>>35644739
I don't know, that's a much more believable way of breaking away from strict adherence to game mechanics than something like thunder armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:45:44 No.35645440 Report

Quoted By: >>35649482

>>35644665

This is way cooler. Electroball was so redundant with thunderbolt, such a downgrade from volt tackle at least. They'll probably take it to far, but having webs has cool bullshit applications

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:58:47 No.35645531 Report

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>>35645030

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:04:55 No.35645568 Report

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Best Electro Ball moment was the giant one that Pikachu used against Giovanni

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:06:49 No.35645578 Report

Quoted By: >>35645588

When are anime physics going to be implemented ingame to shit on all competitivefags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:08:23 No.35645588 Report

Quoted By: >>35645635

>>35645578
Affection already exists, it just doesn't work in Battle Facilities or against other players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:15:19 No.35645635 Report

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>>35645588
Dodge it, horn aim, thunder armor and vine whip as an HM that saves you when falling for a cliff when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:22:46 No.35645688 Report

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Still triggered that Volt Tackle is gone

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:30:01 No.35645734 Report

Quoted By: >>35646280

>>35645030
It was the old "Pokemon tries to use a move it knows, but it comes out as a new move" scenario

In this case, Pikachu was trying to use Electro Ball, but it turned into Electroweb and blocked Mimikyu's Z-Move

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:31:45 No.35645744 Report

Quoted By: >>35646280 >>35647992

>>35645030
Did it myself since nobody bothered to

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:33:19 No.35645756 Report

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>>35645073
Ash’s Bulbasaur taught itself Dig suddenly, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:37:28 No.35645773 Report

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>>35644665
I miss Volttackle. Good times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:39:46 No.35645790 Report

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Pikachu's fourth move over the course of the series

>Thunder (OS-AG)
>Volt Tackle (AG-BW)
>Electro Ball (BW-SM)
>Electroweb (SM)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:42:41 No.35645793 Report

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>>35644669
who's is Shouda

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 16:47:59 No.35645809 Report

Quoted By: >>35645987

>>35645385
electroNUT

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:16:10 No.35645987 Report

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>>35645809
Hmm not sure if underrated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:27:06 No.35646027 Report

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Electroweb actually has utility so this is an improvement. Electro Ball always just felt incredibly redundant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:29:55 No.35646040 Report

Quoted By: >>35646054

Honestly I hate how it doesn't know any moves of different typings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:33:12 No.35646054 Report

Quoted By: >>35646204

>>35646040
>Thunderbolt (Electric)
>Quick Attack (Normal)
>Iron Tail (Steel)
>Electroweb (Electric)

That's three types right there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:52:28 No.35646177 Report

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>>35645090
That's the whole point of Draco Meteor. Only special dragon trainers can teach you this move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:58:06 No.35646204 Report

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>>35646054
This.

And also, Pikas havenot a good/variated lvlup movepool.
Its allways in need of TM/chain/egg moves(at least for anime standards).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:58:16 No.35646205 Report

Quoted By: >>35646228 >>35646255

>>35645073
False. There have been a few times where tutors were a thing. Pikachu learned Iron Tail from some guy in Hoenn, remember?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:01:17 No.35646228 Report

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>>35646205
He only told Ash that he can train it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:05:32 No.35646255 Report

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>>35646205
He only showed Ash how to teach it to Pikachu, Ash did the rest himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:08:59 No.35646279 Report

Quoted By: >>35646312 >>35646313

Doesn’t Pikachu still know Agility? I swear he’s used it past learning Iron Tail and possibly past Volt Tackle. I swear the anime has given Pokémon five moves before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:09:00 No.35646280 Report

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>>35645734
>>35645744
I'm guessing their reaction was that would have been killing Pikachu,right? Either way, I hate that move and it's implications.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:14:20 No.35646312 Report

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>>35646279
>Doesn’t Pikachu still know Agility

No, it hasn't used Agility in nearly a decade. Thunderbolt and Quick Attack are the only original moves that Pikachu still knows. Iron Tail became the permanent third move, and the fourth move has been changing every couple of series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:14:36 No.35646313 Report

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>>35646279
You're probably thinking of Ash having Pikachu use Quick Attack and THEN another move in combination.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:28:15 No.35646426 Report

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>>35644669
>Shouda
who is that?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 21:59:27 No.35647992 Report

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>>35645744

>this is a thing that actually happened
>TR bout to give Pikachu the hands
>when this happens

This is not as bad as thunder armor but it's fucking close.

>>35644707

Z-Moves hit through Protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 22:03:44 No.35648030 Report

Quoted By: >>35648343 >>35648985

Imposing the four move limit on the anime bothers me more than any particular move being forgotten.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 22:19:50 No.35648162 Report

Quoted By: >>35649228

>>35644774
>Thunder Armor was literally using a super-effective move on a Pokémon to make it invulnerable.

It actually made sense as a tactic, even if the presentation was weird.
>Swellow used Endure! Swellow braced itself!
>Pikachu used Thunder! It's super effective!
>Swellow hung in with Endure!
>Swellow was paralyzed! Swellow's Guts raised its Attack!
>Swellow used Reversal!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 22:43:42 No.35648343 Report

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>>35648030
It's necessary to keep any Pokemon from being too overpowered and pulling moves out of its ass constantly to counter everything thrown at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 22:49:00 No.35648381 Report

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>>35644665
I'm glad, it's a very flexible attack that the writers can find creative use out of for several years.

- Electroball barely offered anything Thunderbolt couldn't already do. Pikachu just slapped it around with its tail.
-Thunder was the least creative fourth move, just a stronger bolt. They got rid of that shit fast.
-Volt Tackle, although rarely used, falls below Electroball since it could already be imitated by combining Quick Attack plus Pikachu's body covered by sparks from using an Electric attack on itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:00:27 No.35648452 Report

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>>35644665
At least electroweb has some actual utility and a concrete base power unlike electro ball which has varying power depending on how big the difference is between your speed and the opponents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:05:21 No.35648486 Report

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>>35644665
What are you on about? Electro Web is awesome.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:34:00 No.35648685 Report

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Electroweb is basically animated the same way as Electro Ball (ball of electricity comes from PIkachu's tail), except the ball turns into a net that traps the opponent, or Pikachu can cover himself with it to block attacks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:37:26 No.35648719 Report

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>>35644669
Is Shouda the new rival??

Gamefreak lost its creativity a 100%

think about bissey

think about bissey Thu 24 May 2018 23:38:58 No.35648725 Report

Quoted By: >>35648733

>>35644665
WHERE IS VOLT TACKLE
Anyway I'm not too shooken about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:40:19 No.35648733 Report

Quoted By: >>35648777

>>35648725
Pikachu forgot Volt Tackle back in BW when it learned Electro Ball. And now Electro Ball's been forgotten for Electroweb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 23:46:37 No.35648777 Report

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>>35648733
pls no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:16:44 No.35648985 Report

Quoted By: >>35649013

>>35648030
someones dragonite had like 10 moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:21:59 No.35649013 Report

Quoted By: >>35649160

>>35648985
That was a special case.

>Dragonite used ten different moves during one episode. This was done by the writer of the episode, Atsuhiro Tomioka, to make Dragonite seem more unstoppable.

In that case, they broke the four move rule on purpose for the sake of making Dragonite a more formidable opponent for Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:30:59 No.35649050 Report

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>>35644665
shoot your electric goo my dude

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:46:01 No.35649160 Report

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>>35649013
Duirng the first decade or so, Pikachu pretty interchangably used the three thunder attacks, Agility, and Quick Attack (along with occasionally knowing new moves). The anime didn't give a shit about the four move rule until Sinnoh, when they finally compressed Agility and Quick Attack into a single move and got rid of his three identical electric attacks.

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Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:53:13 No.35649215 Report

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>>35644669
>Shouda

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 00:55:44 No.35649228 Report

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>>35648162
that's a shitty tactic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 01:27:26 No.35649482 Report

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>>35645440
this
why use electro ball when you can use thunderbolt?
even in anime logic thunderbolt could still be used to block incoming projectiles like electro ball could
just a bunch of shitters getting mad about change again

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 02:29:29 No.35650028 Report

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A FUCKING ELECTRIC NET

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 May 2018 04:17:36 No.35650860 Report

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>surf by TM never ever
>have to resort to shitty event garbage that isn't compatible with egg moves
fuck gamefreak

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