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Why do people bitch about this?

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:58:16 No.35645168 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35645191 >>35645193 >>35646199 >>35646352 >>35646473 >>35646486 >>35646495 >>35646637 >>35646786 >>35647004 >>35647067

The EXP Share doesn't make the game easier. Actually having a balanced team does. Not to mention the fact that you can just turn the damn thing off and spam with your starter if it really upsets you that much. Or grind forever to have a balanced team. Up to you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 14:59:24 No.35645179 Report

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Yep people who complain are redacted

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:00:41 No.35645191 Report

Quoted By: >>35646515 >>35647263

>>35645168
I like the old Exp share.
The one that had both benefits and downsides to using it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 15:00:58 No.35645193 Report

Quoted By: >>35646176 >>35646486

>>35645168
The problem was that in Gen VI, it wasn't balanced. It made you (or, at least, it made me) overleveled. Gen VII helped with this a bit though, it felt a lot more balanced in those games. Still could use some adjusting, but it's not nearly as bad as it was in Gen VI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:52:18 No.35646176 Report

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>>35645193
Are you sure that's an issue with exp share though and not just the overabundance of encounters? Your team only gets half exp, not the full amount, so your lead is overpowered anyways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 17:56:57 No.35646199 Report

Quoted By: >>35646486

>>35645168
>The EXP Share doesn't make the game easier.
In gen 6 it clearly did.

>Not to mention the fact that you can just turn the damn thing off
No normal player is going to do this on a blind playthrough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:20:03 No.35646352 Report

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>>35645168
>The EXP Share doesn't make the game easier.
Yes it does. It literally gives free EXP out of thin air. Are you retarded?

>Or grind forever to have a balanced team.
Unless you want to use 6 ultra-shit mons/nuzlocke or have ADHD there is 0 need to grind in any Pokemon game.

It's great for post-game competitive training, but that's about it. The old one is way better for the main game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:23:04 No.35646379 Report

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I'm playing through a pokemon game (sun) with both a mono team (ghost) and exp share off for the first time. I'm not noticing a difference so far.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:37:13 No.35646473 Report

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>>35645168
The only annoying thing is, sometimes you'd want to use the old EXP Share but it doesn't exist anymore. Now, if you want to level up a shitmon in the game but not other mons in your party you need to either turn the EXP Share off and do the whole "lead with shitmon then switch" thing, or only have two Pokémon/Pokémon you don't care about in your party.

It's not a reaaal inconvenience but it got me a few times.

But one reason I like it now, is because they kinda balance the games around people having the EXP Share on, so turning it off is sort of a hard mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:38:47 No.35646486 Report

Quoted By: >>35646502

>>35645168
Of course it makes games easier. You get 350% experience from every encounter if you have a full party.
You can turn it off whenever you want so it's okay in my book.

>>35646199
>No normal player is going to do this on a blind playthrough.
Normal player who seeks challenge will since he's not retarded.

>>35645193
>gen VII
>low number of Pokemon per location
>no boosted experience from trainer battles
>experience system which lowers gains if you are overleveled
It's like they preferred to change EVERYTHING over just nerfing Exp. Share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:39:26 No.35646495 Report

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>>35645168
I just want the old EXP share back. They don't have to remove the new one, I can just turn it off, but I lost a thing I used in every game and it got replaced by something I don't want to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:40:36 No.35646502 Report

Quoted By: >>35646529

>>35646486
>Normal player who seeks challenge will since he's not retarded.
A normal player is going to assume the game is challenging and balanced by default.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:42:06 No.35646515 Report

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>>35645191
This, I liked when 1 mon was able to hold it. I feel like leveling waa faster when I was leveling just 2 mons rather than the experience being spread out over the whole party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:43:30 No.35646529 Report

Quoted By: >>35646569

>>35646502
Are you aware that you can turn off Exp. Share in the middle of a game? If you think you have an easy time and you have a very easy solution in your disposal THEN USE THAT SOLUTION.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:49:44 No.35646569 Report

Quoted By: >>35646604

>>35646529
>Are you aware that you can turn off Exp. Share in the middle of a game?
Are you aware that difficulty spikes are a thing that exist in video games?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:55:03 No.35646604 Report

Quoted By: >>35646613

>>35646569
Pokemon games do not have major difficulty spikes. Also, these are RPGs, you can abuse in-game items or grind if you really have to.
Someone who knows Pokemon games and seeks challenge should not have mindset of a baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:56:13 No.35646613 Report

Quoted By: >>35646625

>>35646604
>Pokemon games do not have major difficulty spikes
Someone playing blind isn't going to know if a particular game will have a difficulty spike or not.

>Also, these are RPGs, you can abuse in-game items or grind if you really have to.
Literally every other RPG I've played was still balanced when I made full use of all the items the game gave me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 18:58:55 No.35646625 Report

Quoted By: >>35646638 >>35646798

>>35646613
Alright, let me simply this for you.

>main Pokemon game
>a hard game
Pick one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:00:45 No.35646637 Report

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>>35645168
turn exp share off:
>games badly designed level curve thrown out of whack
>play game with 90s style jrpg leveling where you need to use dumb tricks and switch often to level underleveled mons, basically necessitating having an over leveled pokemon
play with exp share on:
>games badly designed level curve thrown out of whack
>play game that has a way too easy leveing curve where you may never even use a pokemon but you still level it up
the reality is gamefreak just sucks at making their games ave a good level curve

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:01:04 No.35646638 Report

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>>35646625
simplify*

My point is, someone who knows this series should not expect challenging gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:22:46 No.35646786 Report

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>>35645168
my only major gripe is that it's turned on automatically once you receive it.
fucking stupid.
besides that yeah the old exp just makes way more sense in general but not a huge loss either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:24:38 No.35646798 Report

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>>35646625
Someone playing the game blind isn't going to know if a particular game is hard or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:49:57 No.35646940 Report

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Personally I used the exp share in both Gen VI and VII. It was really easy to be over leveled, so I swapped out my mons a lot. Especially in Kaos which worked out ok cus there are so many Pokemon to choose from

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 19:58:05 No.35647004 Report

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>>35645168
There is literally no need to grind if you play on set and turn off exp share. The bonus exp from switching is enough to keep your team within 5 levels of the AI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:07:20 No.35647056 Report

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The exp share wasn't so much the problem as it is that all pokes in the battle get 100% exp instead of dividing it up. So even without turning it on, you still end up with overleveled mons.

I think the idea was to reduce the time it took to level competitive teams/fill the pokedex in the post game, since it was a bitch to do pre gen V.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:09:13 No.35647067 Report

Quoted By: >>35647181

>>35645168
stay in the denial underage casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:19:58 No.35647172 Report

Quoted By: >>35647181

>why do people complain about a optional thing that can be turned off
people complain for the sake of complaining
I for one welcome the addition of something that kills the shitty grinding

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:21:03 No.35647181 Report

Quoted By: >>35647192

>>35647172
>>35647067

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:22:05 No.35647192 Report

Quoted By: >>35647210 >>35647228

>>35647181
not everyone has time to waste on grinding kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:24:50 No.35647210 Report

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>>35647192
You wouldn't need to worry about grinding if you had half a brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:26:42 No.35647228 Report

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>>35647192
point was you don't even need to grind in pokemon games even the wild pokemon were higher level than the trainer at some point in SM, just accept that you're terrible and need a cheating device to help you beat a kids game

Also i don't want them to remove the Exp. All, just rebalance it or keep it postgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 20:31:16 No.35647263 Report

Quoted By: >>35647830

>>35645191
Is anyone willing to type up an in depth explanation of EXP Share throughout the years? The effects of it and how they changed each Gen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 May 2018 21:41:17 No.35647830 Report

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>>35647263
>Gen 1
50% Exp to battler, 50% divided up between team. Bug where less is divided if more than one pokemon were in the battle.
>Gen 2-5
Exp share is held item, holder gets 50% exp, battlers get 50% exp
>Gen 6-7
Exp share gives 50% to each party member, 100% to each battle participant .

Should be noted that exp is a flat formula, but for gens 5 and 7, it's scaled to level.

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