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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:49:01 No.35727725 View View Reply Original Report

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How is it? Did it fix Sun and Moons many issues?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:50:40 No.35727758 Report

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>>35727725
Nope, largely the same. Some nice quality of life improvements and the new Pokemon are cool but otherwise not much to really say. The new narrative elements feel really tacked on, I would have much preferred to see them incorporated into the game's plot rather than just being there.

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:50:56 No.35727763 Report

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>>35727725
It's probably the last good Pokémon game in a long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:51:43 No.35727776 Report

Quoted By: >>35727804 >>35727912

It's about 90% the same game as S/M, most problems didn't get fixed. The story is still slow, the gyms still suck, and it's still easy as hell.

I honestly didn't even notice many difference between SM and USUM until I was several hours into the story. USUM should have just been offered as a DLC expansion for the original games at a lower price.

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:53:01 No.35727804 Report

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>>35727776
USUM is exactly the same except for different totems and a few Ultra Recon Squad cutscenes up until Poni Island

Probably the 3rd version that changed the least from the base game since Crystal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:53:34 No.35727813 Report

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Fixed some, but not nearly enough to be worth it, and the main problem of Gen 7 is so deeply rooted that to make it enjoyable they'd have to revamp the entire game.
They're honestly pretty good, at least for the 3DS era of Pokemon, but they're so disgustingly similar to Sun and Moon that it just brings their quality down, if they were released as the first games of Gen 7 they would've been a lot better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:54:37 No.35727832 Report

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made it more complete and has a very slightly worse story, the core of it wasn't changed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:55:23 No.35727850 Report

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>>35727813
>make it enjoyable
Fuck, that's pretty contradictory with my next statement.
Gen 7 is enjoyable, just not on the same level as previous games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:57:27 No.35727887 Report

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Pretty standard fair for 3rd versions
Better pacing, bigger dex, better story fights, but I honestly prefered Lusamine's story in sm

If you don't like dialogue with camera angles, though, then gen 7 isn't for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:58:47 No.35727909 Report

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>>35727725
>Did it fix Sun and Moons many issues?

LOL no. It only made the issues worse. THe main criticism of SM is too many cutscenes/tutorials/handholding/slow beginning. This game just added MORE cutscenes and tutorials. They added mantine surf but now you have to visit a beach where they talk to you about it, and then visit there again to do a mandatory tutorial and then instead of just watching a cutscene to get to the next island, the game STILL forces you to run across the city to the boats, but then makes you run back so you can mantine surf to the next island. THere's a forced photo club cutscene, added cutscenes where they clumsily shoehorned in the ultra recon squad.

There are SMALL gameplay improvements here and there (evolving vikavolt/crabominable earlier) and there's a little more to do after beating the elite 4, but this is far from worth 40 dollars if you already played the originals

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 19:58:57 No.35727912 Report

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>>35727776
saying this game is easy as hell is completely disingenuous, gen 7 has the hardest fights in the series and actually has a proper e4 again (with more than 4 pokemon each)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:00:12 No.35727932 Report

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Something I don't often see mentioned about USUM is all the little sidequests. It was a pretty nice improvement that gave Alola a bit more character as a region.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:01:09 No.35727951 Report

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>>35727909
Did you not play the game? The first part streamlines the encounter Lillie making it quicker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:07:33 No.35728074 Report

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>>35727725
it's really bad and didn't fix any issues, if something it only made them worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:28:45 No.35728393 Report

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>>35727951

Yes I did play the game. I'm not sure specifically what you are referring to, but almost every cutscene that got cut was replaced with a slightly worse written cutscene.

You can claim "this cutscene is slightly shorter" but then USUM adds an extra cutscene which negates it

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:32:59 No.35728457 Report

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>>35727725
I cant believe I am posting this, but USUM is no longer than the worst games LGEP is not the worst games in the main series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 20:41:43 No.35728603 Report

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>>35727725
It was alright, I didn't appreciate the change to island scans, but for the most part it's still pretty good. The team rainbow rocket had some interesting teams, and the ability to buy the mega stones was a relief. The battle points being earned by mantine surfing was pretty weird, but it saves a lot of time farming up battles for them. They gave the ability to buy tutor moves pre-post game which was a good addition if you wanted to try weird sets for the main story. The new UB's were pretty neat, wish they added a way to evolve a cosmog into the opposite game mascot though, and a better exp earning mechanism.

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:08:08 No.35729028 Report

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>>35727912

it's only hard if you don't use the XP share. And even without the XP share I only lost like ten times in total.

It's a breeze really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:09:28 No.35729058 Report

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>>35727725
It's an improvement to Sun and Moon, but it hardly fixed anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:11:30 No.35729096 Report

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>>35727912

l would say this but I had exp share off, set battle style to set, refuse to use items in battle, no refresh, and probably some other restrictions.

If you think the games are easy and don't play this way, you are missing out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:15:45 No.35729184 Report

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>>35727725
its a shitty asset flip
nintendo is literally waiting 3+ years for a real pokemon game because theyre busy with asset flips and pokemon go faggotry

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:16:59 No.35729212 Report

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>>35727909
literally if you removed Hau's animations during cut scenes the games would move so much faster

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 21:31:31 No.35729455 Report

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It retconned the goodbye with lillie

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 23:08:07 No.35731204 Report

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>>35729028
>Losing ten times
>breeze

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Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 23:12:20 No.35731265 Report

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>>35729028
>Losing ten times
>Easy
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 23:14:12 No.35731291 Report

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>>35727725
Didn't fix anything, and the stuff it added ranges from pointless empty content (pikachu valley, ultra megalopolis, weird side NPC cutscenes throughout the world) to so badly executed they make the game worse by existing (warp ride, reworked rotomdex bottom screen).
They didn't finish unfinished areas, lake of the moone is still empty and pointless, wela volcano still teleports you and has no interior. Yet they had the time to add MORE empty pointless areas just to put them in the trailer and imply it has any content.

Wait for 2019.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 May 2018 23:16:29 No.35731338 Report

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>>35727804
>battle factory
>RR
>better difficulty
>better totems
>Ultra cozma
> a fucking ton of sidestuff

Do people really jugde 3rd games on bf or not?

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