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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:21:04 No.35740390 View View Reply Original Report

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God what a waste

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:21:53 No.35740399 Report

Quoted By: >>35740425

>>35740390
Is this panda supposed to be like chinese vampire?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:23:50 No.35740425 Report

Quoted By: >>35741397

>>35740399
yeah
it's name is a portmanteau of panda + jiangshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:24:52 No.35740441 Report

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>>35740390
the pin cushion ghost is so fucking cool, at least I have banette I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:27:31 No.35740470 Report

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>>35740390
These two are my absolute favourites, but it's pretty clear to see why they were cut.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:30:27 No.35740507 Report

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>(: 3)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:32:26 No.35740537 Report

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>>35740390
Murkrow looks worse, the witch hat is way too obvious and looks out of place.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:36:31 No.35740594 Report

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>panda jiang shi
>PANDA
>JIANG
>FUCKING
>SHI
I'm done.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:37:09 No.35740603 Report

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>>35740507
>we will never get those designs as alolan forms or something equivalent

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:38:38 No.35740620 Report

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>>35740507
>They were supposed to be cats
>Thats why their stats sucks because GF hates cats

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:38:43 No.35740623 Report

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>>35740390
first two stink and murkrow is better how he is now, go back and find the actual good shit that was in there anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:40:07 No.35740642 Report

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>>35740507
I love these

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:41:05 No.35740651 Report

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*gives you nightmares*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:42:22 No.35740674 Report

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>>35740507
Why get rid of the cat motif?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:43:25 No.35740685 Report

Quoted By: >>35740757

This is a hack room right? you're all pretending it's a 20 years old official demo for fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:44:03 No.35740691 Report

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>>35740507
I've always fucking wondered why Hoppip had that really out of place tail, now we know. They're fucking cats.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:44:47 No.35740702 Report

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>>35740674
They didn't? Hoppip is still very obviously a kitten

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:49:09 No.35740757 Report

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>>35740685
Yeah anon, we sure fooled you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:50:10 No.35740769 Report

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>>35740390
WHAT THE HELL. WHAT ARE ALL THESE!? I JUST CAME ONLINE. OH SHIT THAT'S BETA MURKROW!?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:53:33 No.35740810 Report

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>>35740769
Buddy you have no idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:53:35 No.35740813 Report

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>>35740470
Why?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 10:56:59 No.35740881 Report

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>>35740620
>GF hates cats

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:09:31 No.35741114 Report

Quoted By: >>35745007

>>35740507
literally a digimon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:13:31 No.35741173 Report

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>>35740390
The first one became Shuppet/Banette one gen later

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:18:16 No.35741240 Report

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>>35740810
So when Slowking evolved from Slowbro that shell becomes independent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:25:07 No.35741343 Report

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>>35741240
Can't tell if summer or bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:27:06 No.35741367 Report

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>>35741343
Beta Slowbro + King Rock's = Slowking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:29:58 No.35741392 Report

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>>35741367
No relation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:30:18 No.35741397 Report

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>>35740425
Jiangshi as a concept? Man, GF is creative but sadly what the fuck limited them? Wasted!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 11:32:41 No.35741430 Report

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>>35740390
>that doodoo doll

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:40:58 No.35745007 Report

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>>35741114
This.

And I love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:42:37 No.35745025 Report

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>>35740810
Why did they remove the shell !

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:42:39 No.35745028 Report

Quoted By: >>35745261

>>35740390
Good. The Stuffy Doll and sad panda don't fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:52:09 No.35745171 Report

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>>35740507
>mfw I really like both designs
We better get some kind of alolan forms for gentoo in gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:52:54 No.35745179 Report

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>>35740757
>evolves at level 1
What

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 15:58:33 No.35745261 Report

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>>35745028
>insulting this cutie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:03:25 No.35745318 Report

Quoted By: >>35746571

>>35745261
So the straw with the pin was like a teddy bear or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:16:55 No.35746421 Report

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>>35745261
fuck, this one was good, why couldn't they just drop something else for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:18:54 No.35746453 Report

Quoted By: >>35748737

>>35745179

most of them also have base stats of 50 all over the board, this was not a finished product, ghost panda evo was probably not decided yet and that was just a placeholder.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:20:38 No.35746487 Report

Quoted By: >>35746535 >>35752848 >>35755347

>>35745261

>someone at nintendo probably forced GF to cut all ties to guns/tanks/religion/real life/scary stuff mysticism so that is why we got this cut

BUT A BIGASS JEW STONE ON GEN 4 IS FINE.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:21:02 No.35746492 Report

Quoted By: >>35748854 >>35751578 >>35755014

Look at this stoic pupper

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:21:02 No.35746493 Report

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>>35740390
The panda line was the best of all the leaks, it could still be used as is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:23:20 No.35746535 Report

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>>35746487
considering that they still had things like channelers it probably wasn't the reason they cut the panda. Still a shame it had to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:25:33 No.35746571 Report

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>>35745318
It’s a straw effigy, it’s a really Japanese concept to curse people by going to temples at 2 am and stick nails to the doll to sacred trees

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 17:26:12 No.35746580 Report

Quoted By: >>35750320

>>35745261
Maybe in Persona, not Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:14:23 No.35748737 Report

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>>35745179
>>35746453
It evolves as soon as it hatches from its egg, meaning the only way to obtain a Kurstraw is to press B and force it to stay inside its doll (in which it has a fucking needle sticking right through it). What a horrible existence if someone does that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:15:38 No.35748757 Report

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>>35740390
Murkrow and Honchkrow are better

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:15:41 No.35748758 Report

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>>35740620
But persian was OU in Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:19:13 No.35748828 Report

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>>35740810
>Umbreon was poison

huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:20:15 No.35748854 Report

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>>35746492
It's stoic!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:20:48 No.35748869 Report

Quoted By: >>35748927 >>35749050 >>35751197 >>35751977 >>35752774 >>35753697

I really love how this art makes all the limbs different colors, like it's made from scraps.

So does the doll actually evolve into the jiangshi panda? Besides both being ghost it seems really odd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:23:05 No.35748927 Report

Quoted By: >>35749094 >>35749967

>>35748869
I think it's a play on their curses, since the dolls are part of a daily ritual meant to lay a death curse on someone you dislike and jiang shi are cursed to stay alive. Effectively, the curse reverses upon evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:28:04 No.35749050 Report

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>>35748869
Mime Jr. beta is too eggy. I prefer the creamier Mime Jr. we have.
Also the fish looks better as either Huntail or Lanturn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:29:41 No.35749094 Report

Quoted By: >>35752774

>>35748927
Interesting, a weird but creative connection. Beside the ears on the doll it seemed like a really weird concept. I prefer the doll myself but I really the two of them. Them, the yeti guys, and the eels are the ones I wish most could have stayed. Gen 2 definitely needed more ghost types and these guys are already good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:30:27 No.35749114 Report

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>>35748828
Makes sense if you read the dex entry

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:30:53 No.35749122 Report

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>>35748828
Maybe it was poison because dark type wasn't planned yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:31:21 No.35749126 Report

Quoted By: >>35749206 >>35749822 >>35751462

>>35740390
>still thinking this is real
/vp/ is so retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:32:21 No.35749144 Report

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>>35740674
they are so much better like this rather than as johto forme vileplume

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:36:16 No.35749206 Report

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>>35749126
Literally just (you)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:05:09 No.35749822 Report

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>>35749126
>another denial with no proof

I really enjoy denial tears. Just like the LGP/E denials, or XY starter, or Alola evos.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:06:05 No.35749837 Report

Quoted By: >>35750990

>>35740390
You tell me anon, you tell me...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:06:11 No.35749842 Report

Quoted By: >>35749992

>>35740810
>>35740757
Where did you get that list? I want it, please!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:08:02 No.35749885 Report

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>>35740390
The first two shifters don't even looks like Pokemon, they look like they belong in Dragon Quest

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:11:56 No.35749967 Report

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>>35748927
I suspect this was the original mechanic behind Curse. The ghost effect was for the doll, while the "grows stronger and slower" was for the vampire zombie. Note that in beta, it only had the one effect. Either the panda lost its ghost typing later in production and the new secondary effect was added for non-ghost types or the game was hardcoded to do the boost effect for this thing (and they just changed it to working for non-ghosts when the Pokemon was removed).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:11:59 No.35749970 Report

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>>35745261
Damn it gamefreak why did you drop this guy, The design is actually perfect for a ghost type pokemon. I just didn't want to dex entry for it to be a doll thrown away and a ghost took over its body and its real form is the spell tag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:13:30 No.35749992 Report

Quoted By: >>35750621

>>35749842

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B5epMdm1Wcvh33qFABpw-SO76uZt6WNSl0UsD5yq_dI/edit?usp=sharing

This was made by the team who is translating, etc the roms

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:15:48 No.35750030 Report

Quoted By: >>35750280 >>35751294

I bet they got scared away from this design by the pushback from religious Americans. When Pokemon came over in 1998 parents tried to brand it as demonic because it treated evolution as real. Having a voodoo doll Pokemon release soon after probably wasn't worth the trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:21:05 No.35750280 Report

Quoted By: >>35751294 >>35751771

>>35750030
>I bet they got scared away from this design by the pushback from religious Americans.

That would almost make sense if Hondour and Houndoom didn't exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:23:05 No.35750320 Report

Quoted By:

>>35746580
If it was Persona, it would be human remains

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:39:01 No.35750621 Report

Quoted By:

>>35749992
Thank you so much!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:46:56 No.35750775 Report

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>>35740810
I like that these sprites are like early gen 1 bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:58:41 No.35750990 Report

Quoted By: >>35752223 >>35754685

>>35749837
I wish fat retarded nightmare fuel pikachu was real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:12:53 No.35751197 Report

Quoted By: >>35751219

>>35748869
I HATE what they did with voodoo doll, way too cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:14:26 No.35751219 Report

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>>35751197
Well it is smiling in the sprite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:15:45 No.35751236 Report

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>>35740507
>JRPG stater zone mob

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:18:06 No.35751283 Report

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>>35740507
the first two genuinely are 9/10s while the real deal are 6’s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:18:43 No.35751294 Report

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>>35750030
>>35750280
Typical American parents, there influence always changes the orignal concepts of ideas and it because of that we have gen 7 and gen 6 pokemon now. And this isn't the first time they have done this to a game

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:26:43 No.35751462 Report

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>>35749126
Kill yourself already

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:32:21 No.35751578 Report

Quoted By: >>35751776

>>35746492
It's pupper!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:41:18 No.35751771 Report

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>>35750280
I mean great danes are actual cuddly puppers so at least they could explain that away. Outside of Louisiana, the bible belt treats voodoo shit seriously.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:41:37 No.35751776 Report

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>>35751578
This reminds me of a dog pudding thing I got as a kid once. Not sure if the timeline fits, but there are a bunch of Pokémon based on Japanese deserts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:50:43 No.35751956 Report

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>Non-aesthetic things

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:50:58 No.35751960 Report

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>>35740620
gen 2 beta dex was like 50% made of cats

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:52:00 No.35751977 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748869
>another toilet pokemon
>pelipper was not enough
it's shit lmoa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:01:26 No.35752149 Report

Quoted By:

>>35740507
release hoppip line is objectively superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:05:58 No.35752223 Report

Quoted By: >>35752667

>>35750990
How is it nightmare fuel?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:26:13 No.35752584 Report

Quoted By: >>35752701

>>35740507
They are called Haneko, Poponeko and Wataneko

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:30:20 No.35752667 Report

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>>35752223
The sprite is fucking huge and the teeth make it look imposing. Reminds me of Karnov.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:32:24 No.35752701 Report

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>>35752584
>Haneko
>Isn't a toilet

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:35:57 No.35752774 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748869
>>35749094
The voodoo doll has bear ears and the same round tail that Kyonpan has. The link is just as tenuous as other ghosts have had to be honest: skull and mummy, puppet and doll, mask and sarcophagus. If anything it's more consistent because they're both bears

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:40:09 No.35752848 Report

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>>35746487
What are you talking about?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:03:14 No.35753352 Report

Quoted By: >>35753561 >>35754247 >>35755162

>>35740390
The problem with a lot of the beta designs is they lack any sense of subtlety, e.g., cats with literal bells on their bodies, a literal voodoo doll, Murkrow with a literal witch hat, etc. Final Murkrow is better for that reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:14:20 No.35753561 Report

Quoted By: >>35754443

>>35753352
Gen II has a fucking lot of boring mons because they are subtle. Gen I had a turtle with water cannons, spoon-bending psychic with head shaped like a pentagram, and floating magnets guy who evolves into bigger magnets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:15:03 No.35753574 Report

Quoted By: >>35753740

>>35740507
Tbh they looked like digimon prevolutions till they made the change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:19:46 No.35753668 Report

Quoted By: >>35753874

>>35748828
yes dark type wasn't planned, notice how tyranitar wasn't in the game yet either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:21:05 No.35753697 Report

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>>35748869
mime jr looks like humpty dumpty, I approve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:23:32 No.35753740 Report

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>>35753574
Like half of the Baby Pokémon could reasonably pass as Baby I or Baby II Digimon. It is a result of drawing small monsters early in development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:30:09 No.35753874 Report

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>>35753668
>dark type wasn't planned
There are several Dark types in the beta, like Murkrow and the Bell Cats
Steel type also exists but Magnemite/ton is still pure Electric and proto-Scizor is still Bug/Flying without the metallic armored design

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:47:09 No.35754236 Report

Quoted By: >>35754325

>the doll tries to evolve into the panda ghost right at Level 1
>need to stop the evolution to keep the doll

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:47:27 No.35754247 Report

Quoted By: >>35754443

>>35753352
Yeah, there's also a reason why gen 2 is the one with the most forgettable designs people don't remember until 20 years later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:48:56 No.35754275 Report

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>you now realize that Gamefreak has a shitton of prototype Pokemon for the past 25+ years
>they will never see the light of day

I'll join the big guys so I can infiltrate Gamefreak

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:51:13 No.35754325 Report

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>>35754236
>The doll is stronger

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:57:00 No.35754443 Report

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>>35753561
>>35754247
Fair enough. I guess it's a matter of preference. I definitely prefer the final Remoraid and Octillery over the beta for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:08:51 No.35754685 Report

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>>35750990
>it's yellow so it's pikachu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:24:02 No.35755006 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745261
T H I C C

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:24:22 No.35755014 Report

Quoted By: >>35755072

>>35746492
In one of the pages on internet discussing the beta they said it's baby growlithe(they have the names also).
This beta Pokedex has more new stages of older evolution lines and more Baby pokemon than that we've got.
Also there was a new stone called poison stone seems used to obtain proto-bellossom or a new split evolution of the bellsrpout line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:27:03 No.35755072 Report

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>>35755014
And Umbreon. It used the poison stone, too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:31:47 No.35755162 Report

Quoted By: >>35755329

>>35753352
I like the witch hat on murkrow because it fits perfectly with the broom tail they have

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:39:45 No.35755329 Report

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>>35755162
It still has the witch hat it's just more subtle i mean

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:40:19 No.35755347 Report

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>>35746487
Anon Probopass is a compass moai.

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