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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:08:12 No.35745392 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35745466 >>35745473 >>35745487 >>35745510 >>35745711 >>35747576 >>35747944 >>35748437 >>35749903 >>35752196 >>35752595 >>35752650 >>35752837 >>35752911

Zodiacfags btfo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:13:02 No.35745466 Report

Quoted By: >>35748604

>>35745392
They probably didn't start thinking about the zodiac till gen 3-4-5

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:13:33 No.35745473 Report

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>>35745392
>they DIDN'T release a bear so the zodiac pattern is... Broken?

I don't think you know how this works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:14:41 No.35745485 Report

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Why didn't we get this instead of the garbage we got in the final release? This is the only leaked Pokemon that hurt my heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:14:46 No.35745487 Report

Quoted By: >>35745520

>>35745392
But it’s a bear cub turning into a full blown fire bear?

Aren’t bears on the zodiac as well?

So doesn’t this just confirm everything even more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:16:24 No.35745510 Report

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>>35745392
You can't btfo someone for something that never came out you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:16:56 No.35745520 Report

Quoted By: >>35748192

>>35745487
Bears aren't on the zodiac

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:23:08 No.35745595 Report

Quoted By: >>35745987 >>35753134

Cyndaquil already broke it no matter what retards tell you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:25:24 No.35745635 Report

Quoted By: >>35745692

Where are people getting bear from, that's a lion

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:27:39 No.35745676 Report

Quoted By: >>35748272

Cyndaquil was already my favorite Gen2 starter but now I'm sad we didn't get this instead.
It looks much better than Cyndaquil line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:29:07 No.35745692 Report

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>>35745635
>Honooguma
>Volbear
>Dynabear
>Not bears

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:30:40 No.35745711 Report

Quoted By: >>35748236 >>35753612

>>35745392
they started the pattern at gen 3, thats why gen 2 is a strech. gen 3 is where they started to plan ahead. there were no further games planned after gold and silver, but they changed their mind after they saw the success.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 16:47:51 No.35745987 Report

Quoted By: >>35752432

>>35745595
Cyndaquil is a rat retard its litteraly write on its dex entry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:15:55 No.35747576 Report

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>>35745392
Nope, at this point the zodiac-theory is even more real, because this starter was never released officially, but just planned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:20:14 No.35747641 Report

Quoted By: >>35747691 >>35747718 >>35747720 >>35747727 >>35747809 >>35749800 >>35749844 >>35750340 >>35751364

An echidna is not a rat.
A fox is not a dog.
Jesus fucking christ.
I hope the next fire starter is a flamingo or something so this shit ends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:23:20 No.35747691 Report

Quoted By: >>35748687

>>35747641
What will you do if the next starter happens to be either a rabbit, horse, or snake?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:24:52 No.35747718 Report

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>>35747641
>I hope the next fire starter is a flamingo
I'd be up for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:24:59 No.35747720 Report

Quoted By:

>>35747641
Rat, dog. You wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:25:13 No.35747727 Report

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>>35747641
This, as we all know Game Freak really cares about real wold taxonomical definitions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:30:05 No.35747809 Report

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>>35747641
do you even know shit? foxes count as dogs in the chinese zodiac. I have seen renders with foxes enough to know this. you need to take the zodiac as "dog like" and not literal dog. that goes for all of them btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:37:04 No.35747944 Report

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>>35745392
Not fitting into the zodiac could have been why it was rejected

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:49:39 No.35748192 Report

Quoted By: >>35748255 >>35748359 >>35748415 >>35748815 >>35748852 >>35750256

>>35745520
bears are as strong as bulls, a bull is an ox basically, so the zodiac theory still stands
a bear can technically kill and eat a bull, you can't deny there would be a bit of a bull inside it afterwards

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:51:43 No.35748236 Report

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>>35745711
I still hold that it wasn't intentional until gen 7, when Gamefreak stumbled upon the theory and thought it was cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:52:43 No.35748255 Report

Quoted By: >>35748288

>>35748192

Are humans part of the zodiac, since we can kill all the other creatures on the zodiac?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:54:08 No.35748272 Report

Quoted By: >>35748867 >>35748964

>>35745676
But Charmander isn't a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:54:39 No.35748288 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748255
Human = monkey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:57:25 No.35748359 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748192
Excuse me what the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:59:51 No.35748415 Report

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>>35748192
Anon, what the fuck? I'm a ZodiaChad but even I know you're talking out of your ass.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:00:42 No.35748437 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745392
gen 8 pokemon, please

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:08:01 No.35748604 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745466
They probably never

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:12:08 No.35748687 Report

Quoted By: >>35748840

>>35747691
be irritated for another whole gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:18:38 No.35748815 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748192
>Falseflagging so poorly nobody even falls for it
Kek, anti-zodiacfags seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:19:40 No.35748840 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748687
So you'll deny it untill Gen 12?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:20:10 No.35748852 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748192
lol no one gets the joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:20:46 No.35748867 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748272
thats why it later recived dragon status for the mega evolution. their plan for this started gen 3 like already mentioned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:24:45 No.35748964 Report

Quoted By: >>35749709 >>35751514

>>35748272
Charizard isn't a dragon TYPE. It's clearly meant to be a dragon and is inspired by one. Blaziken isn't a Rooster type is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:40:53 No.35749295 Report

Quoted By: >>35749402 >>35749709

Charmander line isn't a dragon. Fenniken line has nothing to do with dogs. Cyndaquil line has nothing to do with Rats.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:46:31 No.35749402 Report

Quoted By: >>35752873

>>35749295
>Charizard isn't a dragon
>A fennec fox isn't a canidae
>A mouse isn't a rat
I understand your confusion on the last one, but mouse and rat aren't scientific terms, like "fish". Japan doesn't differentiate between them the way we do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:00:00 No.35749709 Report

Quoted By: >>35751514

>>35749295
foxes and dogs are both canines.
thats how it works. the term canine just gets overused if you talk about regular dogs, which makes people confused. but dogs and foxes are both canines. check wikipedia if you need to.

for charizard see >>35748964

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:03:50 No.35749800 Report

Quoted By: >>35749844

>>35747641
A bird would still fit the Zodiac theme

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:05:17 No.35749824 Report

Quoted By: >>35750033

Why the fuck do you think it was cut?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:06:17 No.35749844 Report

Quoted By:

>>35747641
>>35749800
>denial
there is no escape

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:09:04 No.35749903 Report

Quoted By: >>35750063

>>35745392
don't forget that water starters are weapons/warriors and the grass starters are dead species. you need to break all 3 pattern in order to btfo us.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:15:57 No.35750033 Report

Quoted By: >>35750270

>>35749824
I'm sure they spent all that time making sprites and coming up with the design and then said 'oh this won't work with an autistic fantheory in the future, better cut it'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:17:38 No.35750063 Report

Quoted By: >>35750361

>>35749903
>water starters are weapons/warriors
How?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:19:16 No.35750245 Report

Quoted By: >>35750266

Wait just one fucking minute, I don't believe the denial fags but we almost forgot about these two

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:19:33 No.35750256 Report

Quoted By:

>>35748192
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:20:26 No.35750266 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750245
sorry about this, i posted it in the wrong thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:20:32 No.35750270 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750033
the pattern was introduced in gen3. how often do we need to repeat this until you understand. gen 1 and 2 was coincidence. gen3 introduced pattern and future plans as they noticed gen2 would not be the last games. they never expected to make more than gen 2.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:24:02 No.35750340 Report

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>>35747641
Flameingo!

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:24:07 No.35750342 Report

Quoted By: >>35750361 >>35752115 >>35752177 >>35752179 >>35752835 >>35752893 >>35752935 >>35755520

in case you wonder about the owl, yes they are a extinct species in hawaii. thats why it is ghost type ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:25:10 No.35750361 Report

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>>35750063
see >>35750342

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:21:54 No.35751364 Report

Quoted By: >>35753027

>>35747641
A fox is a canine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:29:32 No.35751514 Report

Quoted By: >>35752057

>>35749709
You're not understanding. "Dog" in this context doesn't mean "labrador", it means canidae.

Also >>35748964 agrees that it IS a dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:56:15 No.35752057 Report

Quoted By: >>35752091

>>35751514
are you new?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:57:57 No.35752091 Report

Quoted By: >>35752262

>>35752057
>Accidentally agrees to a point
>Y-You're new!
Fucking summer comes earlier every year

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:59:38 No.35752115 Report

Quoted By: >>35752209

>>35750342
I can get behind the Zodiac theme, but the Grass and Water type motifs are bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:03:20 No.35752177 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750342
what is so special about Feraligatr's knuckles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:03:26 No.35752179 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750342
Primarina and Feraligatr are really pushing it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:04:26 No.35752196 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745392
Thats exactly why they removed it.

Zodiacfags always win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:05:09 No.35752209 Report

Quoted By: >>35752286

>>35752115
The water one is literally a joke to be fair. Grass does seem to keep recurring but that's almost a design of grass types in general. Plants or old/extinct animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:07:59 No.35752262 Report

Quoted By: >>35752832

>>35752091
anon they linked something to someone. they did not reply to the second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:09:27 No.35752286 Report

Quoted By: >>35752872 >>35752914

>>35752209
why the hell does primarina need her spikes if it were not to fit to this pattern?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:16:55 No.35752432 Report

Quoted By: >>35752801 >>35752872

>>35745987
Where? Where does it say Cyndaquil is the Rat Pokemon? I'll be waiting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:26:48 No.35752595 Report

Quoted By: >>35752801

>>35745392
looks more like a dog than a bear,honestly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:29:44 No.35752650 Report

Quoted By: >>35752801

>>35745392
could be a mouse. or rabbit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:30:51 No.35752680 Report

Quoted By: >>35752801

Zodiacfags are hilarious because they try to find patterns for things that aren't even there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:37:56 No.35752801 Report

Quoted By: >>35752825

>>35752432
study the final game versions and ask this again.

>>35752432
>>35752595
>>35752650
>>35752680
read the tread befor posting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:39:10 No.35752825 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752801
Get a brain before posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:39:29 No.35752832 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752262
>They
(You) linked to ME saying Charizard WAS a dragon in response to me saying Charizard WAS a dragon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:39:37 No.35752835 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750342
The weapon thing is absolutely retarded and doesn't make sense, get over it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:39:46 No.35752837 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745392
>hurr durr first stage its a mouse denialfag!
This is the excuse they'll bring here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:41:19 No.35752872 Report

Quoted By: >>35753544

>>35752432
Rat and mouse are the same thing. There's no differentiation in Japan because those aren't species names. It's the Fire Mouse, which in Japanese is identicle to Fire Rat

>>35752286
Anon Primarina being a club is a joke because clubbing seals. The water weapons thing was literally invented as a joke to mock Zodiacfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:41:21 No.35752873 Report

Quoted By: >>35752906

>>35749402
>Japan doesn't differentiate between them the way we do.
They do anon, japaneses and chineses have different terms for dogs and foxes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:42:22 No.35752893 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750342
>believing a pattern made by a spic
Get your shit together /vp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:43:08 No.35752906 Report

Quoted By: >>35752970 >>35753005

>>35752873
Did you even read the post you're replying to? They don't differentiate between RAT and MOUSE because those terms don't actually have any significance. It's like saying "Fish". You aren't naming a species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:43:19 No.35752909 Report

Quoted By:

I'm glad we didn't get this bland and boring piece of shit. You people are so delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:43:21 No.35752911 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745392
Thats clearly a dogish cow so its a bull

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:43:23 No.35752914 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752286
They are not spikes in the first place though, they are stabilizers for underwater mobility and reducing drag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:44:29 No.35752935 Report

Quoted By: >>35752954 >>35753228

>>35750342
When will people accept that the water starters just don't have a theme like fire and grass starters

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:45:00 No.35752946 Report

Quoted By: >>35752974 >>35753027

Fox = 狐狸
Dog = 狗

Tiger = 老虎
Cat = 猫

Learn chink first zodiacfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:45:23 No.35752954 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752935
"People" do
Some summerfriends don't realize that it's literally a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:46:10 No.35752970 Report

Quoted By: >>35753000

>>35752906
Did you ever read my reply?
Or it is because it breaks your beloved pattern?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:46:27 No.35752974 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752946
>His point is so irrelevant he actually couldn't find someone to reply to
>But he was desperate to make it anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:47:29 No.35753000 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752970
Anon you never made a point for or against the zodiac. You said
>Read x post
And X was me, making a point in it's favour
Would you like to try again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:47:44 No.35753005 Report

Quoted By: >>35753079

>>35752906
Rats and mice aren't the same species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:48:46 No.35753027 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752946
>>35751364

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:50:52 No.35753079 Report

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>>35753005
Rats and mice aren't species at all. Again, in English they're the same as the word "Fish", they just mean rodent. They don't specify a species.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:53:21 No.35753134 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745595
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:54:47 No.35753173 Report

Quoted By: >>35753206

guys this tread us full of brain dead trolls pushing it forward no matter what you say or explain. thats what they are up to. call it a day.

/thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:55:58 No.35753206 Report

Quoted By:

>>35753173
This. Denialfags will say "nuh uh" even while presented with evidence and never provide any of their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:56:51 No.35753228 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752935
if anything his proves the water starters don't have a theme, as they didn't create the water prototype to fit any theme. it looks like no weapon i can think off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:13:29 No.35753544 Report

Quoted By:

>>35752872
Fire Mouse is a literal translation of porcupine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:16:58 No.35753612 Report

Quoted By:

>>35745711
>gen 3 is where they started to plan ahead
>release dozens of SLOW FRAIL MIXED ATTACKERS to give Pokémon the widest coverage opportunity because of the lack of the phys/spec split.
>introduce the phys/spec split the following gen anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:48:08 No.35755520 Report

Quoted By:

>>35750342
>owl became extinct during the 1st millennium AD
That's not an "animal prehistorico" dumb spics.

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