/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #35748004

>>35748015
People on /vp/ will always hate on BOTW, but it must suck that BOTW has had more effort and passion put into it than the last 5 Pokemon games combined. I can see the next Zelda game addressing the complaints about BOTW and have a greater focus in dungeons. Meanwhile, Pokemon will continue to get more linear, hand-holdy, and have even less work put into it after each installment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 18:51:08 No.35748223 Report

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>>35748204
Stop, it hurts.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:06:02 No.35748557 Report

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>>35748084
>I hope there are some new routes at least

Lmao
You know there won't be any

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:08:25 No.35748608 Report

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>>35748015
It's Labrynna, underaged friend

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:08:28 No.35748610 Report

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>>35748015

That's Labyrinna on the left, fool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:09:28 No.35748627 Report

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>>35748044
>I'm too retarded to find the secrets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:11:20 No.35748665 Report

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The games aren't for us, we'll just have to accept it and wait for the 2019 games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:22:34 No.35748909 Report

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>>35748627
what secrets? The obviously under a rock korok seeds? Or the enemy hideouts where you waste 3 weapons for 20 rupees?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:24:13 No.35748952 Report

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>>35748004
Aside from "muh skyrim/GTA5 graphics", actually looks pretty fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:27:36 No.35749039 Report

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>>35748004
>pretending this doesn't look good considering how quickly it was slapped together

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:28:11 No.35749054 Report

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>>35748084
It will be a 1:1 Kanto copy, only difference is that larger dungeons will be streamlined because Masuda thinks ADHD kids can't get through Cerulean Cave

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:29:13 No.35749081 Report

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>>35748952
It looks like a 3DS game, and on the Switch there's no excuse to maintain everything so blocky and cube-shaped

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:30:07 No.35749105 Report

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>>35748952
No one's talking about GTA/Skyrim tier realistic graphics
We just want a credible 3D overworld with free camera, instead of a dumb revamp of GB maps seen from above

You can have a credible overworld while retaining cartoony graphics, you know?
That's the case in many Zelda games (WW, SS, BOTW...), Ni No Kuni, Dragon Quest XI...

You shills are acting like the only two choices are "simplified GB map seen from above " OR "open world with very realistic graphics"
Bit that's wrong. The truth is that you can have a credible overworld with free cam while keeping cartoony graphics and without the game being open world

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:30:12 No.35749108 Report

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>>35748004
I don't get it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:30:50 No.35749120 Report

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>>35748909
And what does Pokemon have? Oh boy, another corridor with all trainers having a single Pokemon each.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:33:52 No.35749166 Report

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>>35749105
>hurr why didn't Game Freak just develop a completely different kind of game?

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:35:26 No.35749191 Report

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Gamefreak, where's the ability to control the camera?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:36:19 No.35749207 Report

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>>35749166
> Pokemon games can't be good. Otherwise they aren't Pokemon!

Intentionally missing the point, eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:36:40 No.35749217 Report

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>>35749191
oops sorry bro, hope you weren't thinking of going south

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:38:00 No.35749241 Report

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>>35749105
Will you continue with this until gen 8 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:40:44 No.35749292 Report

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>>35749241
What? That Pokemon can still be better without ignoring cartoony graphics?
I hope you didn't think think this was a legitimate argument?.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:41:15 No.35749300 Report

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>>35749241
Gen 8 will look very much like Let's Go, so I'll continue this even during it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:41:20 No.35749303 Report

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>>35749039
>hey kids and normalfags like this 'fortnite' game right?
>yeah just copy that art style and port pokemon go to the switch for $60, those morons will eat it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:43:11 No.35749339 Report

Quoted By: >>35749393 >>35749472 >>35749536 >>35749570

>>35749166
>a completely different kind of game

Wrong, brainlet
Pokemon was never mean to have a tiny world seen from above as a defining feature
You have to understand that the simplified maps of the original games weren't meant to be some ebin "special style".
It was just that, like in all RPGs at the time, overworlds had to be simplified to put up with hardware limitations
Now that's no longer the case, so these dumb revamps of 2D maps feel extremely dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:43:29 No.35749350 Report

Quoted By: >>35749472 >>35749536 >>35749570 >>35749752

>>35749207
>games have been in this style since the series started and everyone loves them
>now a game being made in this style is officially no longer "good"
Before this game was announced your favorite Pokemon game looked exactly like this, anon. What changed? And again, why would you expect people experienced in developing this style of game to be able to produce a game with a 3D overworld? New hardware doesn't just magically enable you to be able to do new things, especially things you have no experience doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:44:18 No.35749366 Report

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>>35748004
It just feels so small in comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:45:53 No.35749389 Report

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>>35748909
>The obviously under a rock korok seeds?
No, the ones that actually take thought to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:46:09 No.35749392 Report

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>>35749166
>>35749105
Forget the free camera, what reason is there for the world to still be so small and constrained? It's not on the Gameboy. You could fit two dozen Kanto's worth of routes on the switch and probably still have room left over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:46:13 No.35749393 Report

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>>35749339
>it isn't a special style, they've just made games in this style for the past twenty years because of hardware limitations
Uh huh. It's clearly what they like doing, anon. Games on the DS and 3DS surpassed this limitation, if they wanted to make a different kind of game they would have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:48:10 No.35749433 Report

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>>35749303
>Fortnite invented cartoons art styles.

>>35749393
>If they wanted to stop being lazy and make organic enviroments instead of basic bitch tileset maps, they could have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:49:34 No.35749469 Report

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>>35749393
>If they wanted to not be lazy, they would have

Thank you for stating the obvious. They've shown that they can make bigger overworlds without blocky terrain and with different camera angles, but they didn't. They're using the excuse of 'style' to not make Kanto as it was meant to be.

And no, don't try and say that they always meant it to be that small. If they could have fit more on the cartridge, they would have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:49:48 No.35749472 Report

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>>35749350
>New hardware doesn't just magically enable you to be able to do new things

>>35749339

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:52:29 No.35749536 Report

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>>35749350
>New hardware doesn't just magically enable you to be able to do new things

See >>35749339
It's almost like the hardware weren't good enough in DS/3DS era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:52:51 No.35749548 Report

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Who here is ready for #OneRegionPerGame ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:53:31 No.35749564 Report

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>>35749366
it's actually roughly the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:53:56 No.35749570 Report

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>>35749350
>New hardware doesn't just magically enable you to be able to do new things

See >>35749339
It's almost like the hardwares weren't good enough in DS/3DS era.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:55:51 No.35749614 Report

Quoted By: >>35749713 >>35749862

>>35749433
>>If they wanted to stop being lazy and make organic enviroments instead of basic bitch tileset maps, they could have.
Yes, exactly. It seems pretty obvious at this point that they like doing this specific kind of game. But suddenly a hardware jump happens and everyone expects them to pull a different kind of game out of their asses?

>>35749469
>Kanto as it was meant to be
Good thing that they make the games and that's for them to decide. You can wish for a different perspective all you want but don't pretend for a second you know better than the developers, that's just obnoxious.

>>35749472
>>35749536
>>35749570
Even if the limitation was there, which I don't buy for a second because there were plenty of games that surpassed those kind of restrictions on the 3DS, the people at Game Freak still don't have experience making that kind of game. And they clearly didn't care to hire people who did, so attributing it to hardware limitations is obnoxious. They've made this kind of game for years and are continuing to do so. Don't act so surprised.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:58:41 No.35749683 Report

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>>35749366
Because it's a simplified map designed for the GB
All RPG back then had small ass worlds that used your imagination to scale up things
Updating such maps in 3D can only feel small and retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 19:59:30 No.35749696 Report

Quoted By: >>35752041

>>35749433
t. Moron who will eat it up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:00:12 No.35749713 Report

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>>35749614
It's almost like GF is just incompetent.
You don't have to mention the obvious one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:01:25 No.35749748 Report

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>>35749166
because it's pretty much the same gameplay style every release. I want pokemon to take the final fantasy route and make the next installment have a non turn based combat system

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:01:52 No.35749752 Report

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>>35749350
>Before this game was announced your favorite Pokemon game looked exactly like this, anon. What changed?

The hardware, retarded faggot
If movies made nowday still looked like the ones in the 1890s (aka just a train moving without sound), do you think people would be hooked up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:04:31 No.35749813 Report

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>>35748004
>light is always coming from the southwest
Oh no no nononono look at this dood
XY had dynamic lighting in the year 2013 on 3DS.
This probably doesn't even have day/night

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:06:59 No.35749862 Report

Quoted By: >>35752036

>>35749614
>don't pretend for a second you know better than the developers, that's just obnoxious.

How is the SS Anne supposed to reach the ocean again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:08:55 No.35749902 Report

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>>35748084
>expecting NEW content instead of just old dungeons being cut into pieces because 2hard
lmoa

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:10:49 No.35749941 Report

Quoted By: >>35752017

>>35749105
On your side of the argument here anon, but I don't know why people are using ni no kuni as some sort of recommendation for the art style. I don't think this style would fit/look good at all for Pokémon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 20:18:10 No.35750070 Report

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>>35749902
Exclusive leaked redesign of Rock Tunnel!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:54:04 No.35752017 Report

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>>35749941
I think it'd be pretty nice, but there are lot of cartoony styles that would work fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:55:09 No.35752036 Report

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>>35749862
Lock and dam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 21:55:14 No.35752041 Report

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>>35749696
Are you fucking illiterate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:08:14 No.35752263 Report

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>>35752041
Actually yes, I find this offefncive

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:51:25 No.35753092 Report

Quoted By: >>35753157 >>35754346 >>35755365

>>35748004
At least it wasn't this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:53:48 No.35753149 Report

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>>35748204
I-its what pokemon needs! The l-last games were too complex. I-i wish there was a button that let me turn off all pokemon e-except gen 1!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:54:07 No.35753157 Report

Quoted By: >>35753198 >>35753584

>>35753092
Damn what is this trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:54:56 No.35753178 Report

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>>35748909
Literally all the dungeons and towers you need to seek out and the main story. I feel really bad for you if you stopped playing after 30 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 22:55:44 No.35753198 Report

Quoted By: >>35753584

>>35753157
Pokemon gold beta i think

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:15:31 No.35753584 Report

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>>35753157
>>35753198
Yep, they originally planned to crunch the entirety of Kanto down to this area before Iwata came in

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:21:17 No.35753703 Report

Quoted By: >>35754164 >>35758299

>>35748204
I have a tiny shred of hope left that this will actually serve as containment for the linear hand-holding and casualization, and Gen 8 (and future gens) will actually have more effort put into making them interesting and cater towards a more hardcore audience. They apparently said that was their plan in the conference the other day. Whether or not they were lying is another question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:22:35 No.35753726 Report

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>>35748084
>new routes
My dude this is 110% a lazy cashgrab attempt at nostalgiabaiting GO casuals into buying a Switch. They aren't even bothering to make it so you can catch pokemon without motion controls. You better stop getting your hopes up before you give them money for this trash and find yourself extremely disappointed.

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:25:09 No.35753773 Report

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My friends and I laughed about this photo last week because OBVIOUSLY the Lapras screenshot was too terrible to actually be the game they were putting out.

I'm so fucking disappointed that they're really going through with this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:26:41 No.35753807 Report

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>>35749191
The excuse is that they had to leave it out so you could play with one joycon/the $50 pokeball thing, but the actual reason is that this is just a lazy nostalgia cashgrab and they are putting as little effort as humanly possible into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:28:21 No.35753836 Report

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>>35748084
you won't even get FRLG's Sevii islands

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:36:26 No.35754017 Report

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>this fucking thread
I can't believe how retarded Genwunners are willing to be in order to keep sucking GF's cock.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:44:15 No.35754164 Report

Quoted By: >>35754591

>>35753703
I want to believe this but past examples prevent me from doing so. Like this is genuinely the perfect excuse to let let's go appeal to those of the casual bunch and get the main games back on tracks.......but I just can't help but see them making that same dumb as fug smartphone excuse despite go fixing said issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 31 May 2018 23:52:21 No.35754346 Report

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>>35753092
My brain stopped working for a second there, holy shit based Iwata.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:04:06 No.35754591 Report

Quoted By: >>35755910

>>35754164
I know what you mean, back when GO was popular, I basically predicted that this type of thing would happen, and everyone told me I was crazy. Here we are a couple years later, and the casualization has started. Next year is critical. 2019 will basically decide the future of Pokemon as a franchise. If they stick to their word and make Gen 8 cater to hardcore interests and actually make a good game and it sells as well or better than Let's Go, the future is bright. If Let's Go sells better than Gen 8, it's over.

The funny thing is, if they seriously double down on Let's Go and try to make Let's Go Pichu/Igglybuff like some people have theorized, it'll fucking flop. 99% of the people who buy Let's Go will be people who exclusively know and like Gen 1. I love Johto, but it's probably one of the least-loved gens in the entire franchise, given that a huge portion of the more hardcore fans started with Hoenn and Sinnoh now. Not to mention the fact that GO players are trend-hungry. They attach themselves to shit for the few months of popularity and move on. Sure, GO has 750+ million downloads, but I would be surprised if it even had 1% of that many active players a month ago. LGPE might get a lot of sales since it's the first Go 2.0 and it's Kanto, but Gen 2 would flop like a sack of bricks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:05:49 No.35754616 Report

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>>35748044
I'm glad you're dead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:18:07 No.35754876 Report

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>>35748015
God I still haven't finished BOTW
I bought it at launch

Thanks for reminding me how wonderful it is IT'S TOO FUCKING BIG FUCKKKK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:32:58 No.35755179 Report

Quoted By: >>35755324 >>35755326

>>35748004
Is this from the Let's Go games? I've never played anything beyond White, and this looks amazing!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:39:30 No.35755324 Report

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>>35755179
be more subtle next time
i recommend personal attacks, always hooks the retards

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:39:35 No.35755326 Report

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>>35755179

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:40:18 No.35755345 Report

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didn't want a kanto remake in the first place, but now it's coming true, delighted it's this let's go shit, rather than a core entry into the series.

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:41:03 No.35755365 Report

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>>35753092
>the entire world of the previous game is just a small stepping stone in the bigger world of the sequel
I love this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:46:42 No.35755488 Report

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>>35748627
the secrets are boring just as the rest of the game, Ubishit sandboxes were a mistake and so is BOTW

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 00:52:31 No.35755616 Report

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>>35748004
I think it looks alright, but they need to stop fucking faithfully recreating the right angles from the original goddam tiles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 01:08:03 No.35755910 Report

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>>35754591
>The funny thing is, if they seriously double down on Let's Go and try to make Let's Go Pichu/Igglybuff like some people have theorized, it'll fucking flop. 99% of the people who buy Let's Go will be people who exclusively know and like Gen 1.
This is what I'm predicting as well.
>LGPE sells gangbusters
>Gamefreak believes they have a hold on the casual GO normie crowd and turn Let's Go into a series
>Gen 2 LG comes out
>sells 1/4th of LGPE because normies have zero, ZERO interest in the series outside of Genwun and by the time the game comes out, the fad will have already passed just like it did in the year 2000
If Gamefreak contines to shove the longtime fans out of the way in favor of people who only care about Kanto, they're going to lose both audiences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 03:23:00 No.35758214 Report

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GOFAGS ARE

S E E T H I N G

IN EVERY THREAD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 03:23:51 No.35758220 Report

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Do you guys not mind GF taking jabs at /vp/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 03:24:18 No.35758228 Report

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>>35750070
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 03:24:28 No.35758231 Report

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>>35748015
>>35748004
I think the new pokemon games look like shit but this comparison is just retarded bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 03:28:00 No.35758299 Report

Quoted By: >>35759241

>>35753703
>They apparently said that was their plan in the conference the other day.
Can anyone post a link to this conference?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 04:27:38 No.35759241 Report

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>>35758299
its on youtube lazy

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