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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:53:00 No.35768584 View View Reply Original Report

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>May stats for VGC tournaments. These Pokemon are ranked by how many Championship Points they've earned from real life tournaments within the month, so more successful Pokemon are prioritized in these rankings. Includes all Pokemon who earned at least 1% of the month's total CP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:55:08 No.35768607 Report

Quoted By: >>35768632 >>35768645

>>35768584

>implying anyone actually uses the baranigger, much less wins with it

Fake as fuck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:55:41 No.35768615 Report

Quoted By: >>35768622 >>35768632 >>35768660 >>35769031

>>35768584
>Incineroarfags still do not understand that their pokemon is only number one because of new toy syndrome

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:56:44 No.35768622 Report

Quoted By: >>35768642

>>35768615
We're way past the new toy stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:56:57 No.35768627 Report

Quoted By: >>35768671 >>35768740 >>35768790

>accelgor
What. Also fuck that anon who told me vikavolt was good in VGC and fuck GF for giving it that stupid stat spread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:57:52 No.35768632 Report

Quoted By: >>35768642

>>35768607
>>35768615
>owlfags STILL seething

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:58:43 No.35768642 Report

Quoted By: >>35770504

>>35768632
>>35768622
Go play in traffic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:58:56 No.35768645 Report

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>>35768607
t. owlcuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 19:59:57 No.35768660 Report

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>>35768615
>New toy syndrome
>nearly 3 months later
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:00:36 No.35768671 Report

Quoted By: >>35768707

>>35768627
Accelgor is my guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:01:50 No.35768694 Report

Quoted By: >>35768771 >>35768878

>>35768584
>Landorus T is cancer in both Singles and Doubles

Jesus fucking Christ

Intimidate Clause when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:02:33 No.35768707 Report

Quoted By: >>35768792 >>35768794

>>35768671
Yeah I think he's cool but what sets are they running? I've just never seen him mentioned much anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:04:23 No.35768740 Report

Quoted By: >>35768775 >>35768801 >>35768856 >>35768954

>>35768627
In an environment as fierce as this, how the hell would a Rout 1 bug be anywhere near the top (despite being useful, not great mind you, useful)?

Btw, I like it how Naganadel is in the top 50 while Stakataka is nowhere to be seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:04:58 No.35768746 Report

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>>35768584
>Politeod at DOUBLE Pelliper's usage
It's toed time bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:06:48 No.35768771 Report

Quoted By: >>35768817

>>35768694
They should just nerf Intimidate in gen 8 so it only affects one enemy pokemon; the one directly across from the intimidator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:07:18 No.35768775 Report

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>>35768740
I was told he was "good in trick room" and that the earthquake immunity was godly. Obviously this was not true, but it was used to defend it's fucking stupid stats(i.e. thats it's designed for doubles). Now I'm just sad suck a cool beetle is shit everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:08:17 No.35768786 Report

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>>35768584
>Porygon2
I thought P2's been pretty out of it for a while given Knock Off's prevalence? Was that just last gen? I haven't kept up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:08:22 No.35768790 Report

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>>35768627
Fast protect + encore I believe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:08:26 No.35768792 Report

Quoted By: >>35768815 >>35768846 >>35770836

>>35768707
>base 145 speed
specs timid 252 spatk/252 spe
bug buzz/bug bite/u-turn/giga drain is what i’ve messed around with. this was a couple months ago, but it won 13 straight on championship baggles with fake tears/tailwind/encore whimsicott

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:08:33 No.35768794 Report

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>>35768707
A seed set paired up with Tapus, usually Psychic with Lele.
Accelgor spams acid spray for Lele to ko just about anything. Or it just uses final gambit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:09:06 No.35768801 Report

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>>35768740
>a route one bug that can only fully evolve in an lategame area

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:10:03 No.35768815 Report

Quoted By: >>35768846

>>35768792
Very cool. Does water shuriken have any place on it or is it useless? Such a cool move for it to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:10:09 No.35768817 Report

Quoted By: >>35768861

>>35768771
That would only affect doubles. Singles would be unaffected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:10:33 No.35768822 Report

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>>35768584
I've a question about your data :
These Pokémons are members of the team when the player win a point (aka 1 out of the 6 complete team)
Or are they members that battle in duo and take the point (aka 1 out of 4)
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:12:15 No.35768846 Report

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>>35768792
championship baggles looool
>>35768815
i don’t think it has much use imo, but it could be solid coverage for shit like incineroar or if you can catch camerupt outside of trick room. you could probably drop bug bite if you wanted to try it out, but it is really handy for trolling + stealing recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:12:48 No.35768856 Report

Quoted By: >>35768945

>>35768740
>evolves right before the climax in SM and about halfway through USUM
>BST & Pokedex lore make it out to be equivalent to Pinsir and Heracross

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:13:04 No.35768861 Report

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>>35768817
One, I don't think they care about balancing singles. Two, Intimidate isn't nearly as devastating in singles since you have five other pokemon to switch to, whereas in doubles you have two so the scenario of "as bad as this is, a -1 attacker is still better than my alternatives so I just need to stay in" is a lot less common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:14:11 No.35768878 Report

Quoted By: >>35768886

>>35768694
Just fucking remove Intimidate from Landorus-T.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:14:51 No.35768886 Report

Quoted By: >>35768899

>>35768878
Just remove lando t, it's fucking hideous and everywhere

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:15:39 No.35768899 Report

Quoted By: >>35768973

>>35768886
I wish they would do this but it will never happen. Also retconn the Tapus from existence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:17:35 No.35768921 Report

Quoted By: >>35769067

>>35768584
I'm surprised, is Whimsicott the only mon with Prankster of this season ?
How used are the priority move at the moment ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:19:51 No.35768945 Report

Quoted By: >>35768983 >>35769061

>>35768856
You don't really see Heracross or Pinsir much in Doubles to almost at all, so why would Vik be any different. It also has a direct competitor in Tapu Koko which completly invalidates any usefulness it might have had.

Powercreep is a bitch and we must live with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:20:09 No.35768954 Report

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>>35768740
take your question, replace bug with bird and apply it to Fletchling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:21:16 No.35768973 Report

Quoted By: >>35770429

>>35768899
Retcon them ability wise or stat wise ?
Don't say both you know it will never happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:21:49 No.35768983 Report

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>>35768945
Heracross and Pinsir have non-retarded stats at least. Poor vikavolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:24:26 No.35769029 Report

Quoted By: >>35769055 >>35769077 >>35769233

>>35768584
I love the UBs but don't follow the format.
Why is Pheromosa so much worse here than in Smogon?

Also are Blace and Staka not good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:24:41 No.35769031 Report

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>>35768615
>le new toy meemay

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:26:32 No.35769055 Report

Quoted By: >>35769073

>>35769029
Pheromosa doesn't get opportunities to use Quiver Dance in doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:26:51 No.35769061 Report

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>>35768945
Mega Pinsir had its limelight in singles. But my main point is that it's not designed as a deliberate shitmon like most Route 01 garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:27:09 No.35769067 Report

Quoted By: >>35769088

>>35768921
One in four teams have a Psychic Terrain user on them. Even if you're one of the three out of every four trainers not using Whimsicott, it means there is a one fourth chance everyone you fight will have a way to passively hard shut down one of your pokemon. One in two teams have Incineroar (dark type) which is immune to prankster, so there's another common threat you can do nothing against. It's like they saw the priority arms race in gen six and went WAY overboard shutting it down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:27:53 No.35769073 Report

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>>35769055
Quiver Dance? What the actual fuck?
Yeah i am out of touch

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:28:02 No.35769077 Report

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>>35769029
Pheromosa can be double teamed on with it's terrible defenses if it didn't KO the mon it targeted, in singles, it's more likely to live another turn thanks to a sash or KOing the mon beforehand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:28:48 No.35769088 Report

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>>35769067
That should say "not using Tapu Lele".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 20:38:59 No.35769233 Report

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>>35769029
Blace has an horrible coverage, only STAB are Ghost wich is as effective as Dark, and Fire meaning you actually have only Psychic, Ghost and Fire in offence.
Mind Blow is a bit risky and the poor defence make it a literal kamikaze.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:09:30 No.35769605 Report

Quoted By: >>35769709 >>35770164

>>35768584
what would be the best way to nerf Landorus?

we are all tired of this ugly fucker, but no ones suggests a real answer, most people want it to be banned but that's not going to happen unfortunately

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:14:56 No.35769674 Report

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>>35768584
Incineroar has entirely replaced Hitmontop. It does not only access to Intimidate and Fake-out, but also to other powerful utility moves like Knock-off and Will-o-Wisp.

Congratulations, Incineroar!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:16:51 No.35769707 Report

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>>35768584
It makes me happy to see Porygon2 is still viable in OU somewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:17:04 No.35769709 Report

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>>35769605
By removing Intimidate and giving it Pressure or some shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:26:06 No.35769818 Report

Quoted By: >>35769954 >>35770165

>>35768584
>that new toy sindome with Incineroar
Yikes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:37:33 No.35769954 Report

Quoted By: >>35770004

>>35769818
It has been almost 2 years since it came out. New Toy Syndrome really doesn't apply here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:40:55 No.35770004 Report

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>>35769954
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:50:53 No.35770124 Report

Quoted By: >>35770165

>>35768584
>Incineroar N°1
Is it really that good or it's just the new toy syndrome?

>Most tapus are on the top 10

Welp. I guess we know who's first on GameFreak's nerf party

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:51:21 No.35770134 Report

Quoted By: >>35770415

https://www.smogon.com/stats/2018-04/gen7vgc2018-1760.txt
>yfw smogonites are more creative than cartridge players

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:53:43 No.35770164 Report

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>>35769605
If we go by what they did to Thundurus last gen, new terrain that prevents stat loss, and let's say a certain type becomes immune to intimidate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:53:44 No.35770165 Report

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>>35769818
>>35770124
>new toy syndrome still being an argument against Incineroar's VGC usage
Incineroar is now a staple in the Gen 7 VGC meta, it might drop a few placements in the future, but it'll definitely stick around at the top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:06:44 No.35770360 Report

Quoted By: >>35770877

>>35768584
intimidate is so getting nerfed in gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:10:19 No.35770415 Report

Quoted By: >>35770491

>>35770134
Is "ban it" a creative way to play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:11:37 No.35770429 Report

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>>35768973
Make their abilities only last 3 turns. Maybe reduce their power overall?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:16:11 No.35770491 Report

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>>35770415
It's the VGC format data you absolute brainlet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:17:01 No.35770504 Report

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>>35768642
At least they're actually playing, unlike you.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:44:27 No.35770836 Report

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>>35768792
Fuck no, Accelgor is used as support

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:47:26 No.35770877 Report

Quoted By: >>35770926

>>35770360
It got nerfed in gen 7 by the introduction of Adrenaline Orb but people forget about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:51:29 No.35770926 Report

Quoted By: >>35770989

>>35770877
What the fuck does Adrenaline Orb do to "nerf" Intimidate? I mean, sure, the Pokemon speed boost, but they still get an attack drop, so it's not like they can do much with the speed boost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Jun 2018 22:56:42 No.35770989 Report

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>>35770926
Slap it to something with Defiant/Competitive and you can go nuts. It's the main reason why things like Milotic and Braviary are showing up lately.

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