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Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:37:38 No.35823289 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35823297 >>35823302 >>35823378 >>35824079 >>35824156 >>35824282 >>35824371 >>35827867 >>35828266 >>35828447 >>35828856 >>35828990 >>35829026 >>35829035 >>35830098

>gen 1 got yellow
>gen 2 got crystal
>gen 3 got emerald
>gen 4 got platinum
>gen 5 got BW2
>gen 7 got USUM

Why didn't gen 6 get a third version? What made them decide not to? Tge existence of Zygarde seems to imply they had the idea to make a Z version at one point, so when and why was it scrapped?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:38:13 No.35823297 Report

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>>35823289
Yo-Kai Watch forced them to cut Gen 6 short

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:38:43 No.35823302 Report

Quoted By: >>35828312

>>35823289
They wanted to get Sun and Moon out for the 20th anniversary

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:39:42 No.35823312 Report

Quoted By: >>35823316 >>35823407 >>35824119 >>35824695

Zygarde actually has fuckall to do with Xerneas and Yveltal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:40:22 No.35823316 Report

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>>35823312
So? He's just third game box bait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:45:20 No.35823378 Report

Quoted By: >>35823387

>>35823289
They want to:
-Make a new region every three years
-Make third versions
-Make remakes
-Take a year off

They can't do all these things in three years so they end up skipping one each time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:46:31 No.35823387 Report

Quoted By: >>35823398 >>35824597

>>35823378
The only one they should skip is taking a year off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:48:21 No.35823398 Report

Quoted By: >>35823428 >>35824597

>>35823387
They need to take a year off instead of shitting out a new game every year and having the quality suffer as a result.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:48:59 No.35823407 Report

Quoted By: >>35825544

>>35823312
1 of Zygarde's Alola Dex entries mentions Xerneas and Yveltal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 20:51:14 No.35823428 Report

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>>35823398
I just wanted a gen 6 third version. With some touch ups Kalos could have actually been good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:01:49 No.35824079 Report

Quoted By: >>35824101

>>35823289
>gen 1 got yellow
Gen1’s remaster is Blue, not Yellow. You retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:04:44 No.35824101 Report

Quoted By: >>35824175 >>35824190

>>35824079
>Gen1’s remaster is Blue
Are you retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:06:54 No.35824119 Report

Quoted By: >>35829133

>>35823312
And suicune has fuckall to do with ho-oh or lugia who in turn have fuckall to do with the other. What's your point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:09:59 No.35824148 Report

Quoted By: >>35824219 >>35824308

I don't consider B2/W2 a "third version", its literally a sequel where like 70% of the main area you travel through in Unova in the story is different, and the story itself is 100% different. I believe it was Iwata who specifically said not to do a third version, but something different.

I believe that Game Freak quit doing third version/re-releases after Platinum due to historical lower sales compared to new games and remakes. This is why B2/W2 and OR/AS were chosen to be made rather than a hypothetical "Gray" or "Z".

US/UM however was a relapse for Game Freak, which I believe stemmed from the fear that Game Freak would lose momentum of Pokémon hype from the 3DS/GO era if they went a year without release, so they opted to do a third version again, just so they had SOMETHING to put out in the wait for the two Switch games in development.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:10:50 No.35824156 Report

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>>35823289
Because they wanted to rush SM out the door as fast as possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:11:53 No.35824165 Report

Quoted By: >>35824618 >>35828436

The disappointing answer that none of you bored virgin losers want to hear is that the potential producers didn't deem it profitable enough to develop a third version. Instead, they thought beginning development on S/M and continuing ORAS production were the best uses of their time and money, hence no third game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:12:29 No.35824175 Report

Quoted By: >>35824252

>>35824101
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Blue_Version_(Japanese)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:13:44 No.35824190 Report

Quoted By: >>35824252

>>35824101
seems like you are, if you still don't know the history of this series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:16:07 No.35824219 Report

Quoted By: >>35824316

>>35824148
ORAS was getting released anyway, just look at the past, first Gen on new hardware gets a remake that Gen, Z may have been planned, but I think it's more likely they discarded the idea of it to get Gen VII done for the anniversary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:18:50 No.35824252 Report

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>>35824175
>>35824190
Forgot about the japanese version, thought it was the english one, my bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:20:18 No.35824282 Report

Quoted By: >>35828447

>>35823289
If you believe the gen 5 leaks, Zygarde is even more cucked than that and was meant to gen 5 instead of Kyurem. Makes some sense as a trio master as ground beats Electric and Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:21:40 No.35824308 Report

Quoted By: >>35825495

>>35824148
Gamefreak just realized they could make 2 third versions instead of 1 to increase sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:21:54 No.35824316 Report

Quoted By: >>35828227

>>35824219
Im not convinced. Unlike previous remakes, OR/AS showed up conveniently two years late for its respective anniversarry.

I would say "well they're not going to have the first game on a new system be a remake" but Let's Go has stamped that idea out.

I believe as X/Y were wrapping up development, Game Freak realized everyone was asking/expecting Gen 3 remakes soon, and they could do that instead of Z which would have sold lower. I do think maybe there was some early development of updated Kalos ideas, but these were just carried over to Sun and Moon (Z-Moves & Zygarde) instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:25:22 No.35824371 Report

Quoted By: >>35825469

>>35823289
cause gen 6 sucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:48:13 No.35824597 Report

Quoted By:

>>35823387
>>35823398
Technically, they already do. There hasn't been a real break in their development cycle since Gen 4 and probably wont be again until they release Gen 8, depending on how things go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:49:59 No.35824618 Report

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>>35824165
Yep, this. And it's the same reason there's likely to be a crossroads in the series after LGPE to decide the future of the series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 05 Jun 2018 22:57:56 No.35824695 Report

Quoted By: >>35828167

>>35823312
>one of the 3 basic colors + black parts (white in the shiny version) like Xerneas and Yveltal
>has power over the life/death cycle in the ecosystem of Kalos like Xerneas and Yveltal
>its Pokedex entry mentions Xerneas and Yveltal
>it's based in norse myths like Xerneas and Yveltal
>its the third legendary of Kalos after Xerneas and Yveltal in basically every media that isn't the core games (mangas, spin offs, anime, etc)
>the energy of the nature is confirmed to be the basic source of the power that makes megastones in ORAS, and the ones in Kalos were created by the vital energy of regular pokemon and the energy of Xerneas and Yveltal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 00:32:07 No.35825469 Report

Quoted By: >>35825939

>>35824371
A good third version would have made it suck less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 00:34:30 No.35825495 Report

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>>35824308
You're thinking of gen 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 00:41:40 No.35825544 Report

Quoted By:

>>35823407
shut up richard

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 01:16:17 No.35825939 Report

Quoted By: >>35825988 >>35828215

>>35825469
US/UM are fantastic, arguably the best-improved games a third version has ever produced, and /vp/ still bitches about Gen 7 like it personally raped their dog on christmas

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 01:20:40 No.35825988 Report

Quoted By: >>35827841

>>35825939
Platinum is much much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 04:48:03 No.35827841 Report

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>>35825988
As is Crystal, and Emerald and B2W2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 04:50:54 No.35827867 Report

Quoted By:

>>35823289
iPhone 5 / S / SE
iPhone 6 / + / S / S+
iPhone 7 / +
iPhone 8 / + / X

There's no iPhone 7S, anon. Life isn't fair

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:28:46 No.35828167 Report

Quoted By: >>35828832

>>35824695
>Its ability directly affects Xerneas' and Yveltal's abilities.

Lily

Lily Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:34:58 No.35828215 Report

Quoted By:

>>35825939
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:36:57 No.35828227 Report

Quoted By: >>35828286

>>35824316
>Unlike previous remakes, OR/AS showed up conveniently two years late for its respective anniversarry.
FRLG came out 8 years later
HGSS came out 10 years later
ORAS came out 12 years later

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:44:15 No.35828266 Report

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>>35823289
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER and shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:47:09 No.35828286 Report

Quoted By: >>35828551

>>35828227
>DP remakes should come 14 years later
>DP came out on 2006
>Sinnoh remakes on 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 05:50:57 No.35828312 Report

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>>35823302
This is the reason. It's also why SM felt so unfinished, it was rushed out so there would be a new generation for the 20th anniversary instead of just an upper version. USUM was there chance to finish SM and give us the complete Alola experience. They of course failed, but there you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 06:04:54 No.35828436 Report

Quoted By:

>>35824165
USUM has one of the lowest sales in the series idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 06:07:03 No.35828447 Report

Quoted By:

>>35823289
third versions needs to die

bw2 is not a third version

>>35824282
>basic thinking, kyuren is not the rayquaza of that trio
fire, electric and ice trio is best trio

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 06:22:24 No.35828551 Report

Quoted By:

>>35828286
Now you're getting it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 06:50:34 No.35828761 Report

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They prob would develop Z, and maybe they even started the process, but Yokai Watch+20yrs were big concerns, so they scrapped out all the game. It kinda sucks, because the 6th gen would be great if complet, today is just the worst games of the franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:06:11 No.35828832 Report

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>>35828167
Only bad thing there is with Zygarde is how its complete form isn't permanent nor does it get to keep aura break which is disappointing af

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:11:27 No.35828856 Report

Quoted By: >>35829120

>>35823289
I fully believe it's because Yokai Watch taking Japan by storm made them shit their pants.

Funny thing is we're seeing a repeat with LGP/LGE now since Go made more money than any game GameFreak ever shit out and that makes them jealous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:38:57 No.35828990 Report

Quoted By: >>35829038 >>35829094

>>35823289
1. Red, Blue, Yellow
2. Gold, Silver, Platinum
3. Sapphire, Rubi, Emerald
4. Diamond, Pearl, Crystal
5. Black, White, Rainbow
6. X, Y, Z
7. Sun, Moon, Star

Fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:45:56 No.35829026 Report

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>>35823289

>B2/W2
>Third version

They aren't 3rd versions

it does most of the stuff 3rd versions do but it's main distinction from them is that it doesn't repeat B/W's plot but continue it

as for yellow i also wouldn't call it a 3rd version mainly because it took more of a 'let's recreate the anime in game form' type of turn but that's just me

putting that aside

They probably didn't give X/Y one since of how much of a blunder it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:48:03 No.35829035 Report

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>>35823289
Gen 6 did what it wanted too in its first entries, so they didn't need to resell you the same game for the third time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 07:48:26 No.35829038 Report

Quoted By: >>35829094

>>35828990
>Rubi
>Rainbow

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 08:00:23 No.35829094 Report

Quoted By:

>>35829038
>>35828990
Ruby*
Asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 08:04:55 No.35829120 Report

Quoted By: >>35830073 >>35830100

>>35828856
Gamefreak is a shit company that doesn't deserve their own ip. They have no talent at all and their games sell by name alone. There's a reason why spin-offs always end up better than the main games and that's because they get other Dev team to work on them. Gamefreak was probably terrified at the idea of being usurped by yokai watch because if Pokémon goes down they literally have nothing. They went full scumbag and cut gen 6 short to release a new gen that "borrowed" several aspects of yokai watch
>Rotomdex being their answer to whisper
>WACKY dances make their way into the series to get the attention of nip kids just like in yokai watch
>Protag has an arm accessory that lets him use an ultimate move and also requires him to collect a special item that goes into it,yokai medal/z Crystal
>Anime becomes more focused on comedy just like yokai watch which ironically is now taking a more serious tone like xy did previously
>The game overwold is now more similar in design to the yokai watch games

Fuck gamefreak

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 08:07:01 No.35829133 Report

Quoted By:

>>35824119
Suicune was rez'd by Ho-oh, Lugia is a faggot filled in post beta-mon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 11:22:51 No.35830073 Report

Quoted By:

>>35829120
Don't forget the cat fire starter

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 11:25:58 No.35830098 Report

Quoted By:

>>35823289
Game Freak didn't care about that generation. You can tell because they were already hinting at Alola with that souvenir. They wanted Kalos to be over and never look back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 11:26:19 No.35830100 Report

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>>35829120
It's really fucking pathetic. They have no creative drive anymore, the entire 7th gen is as it is because they were scared shitless of Youkai Watch.

Their only good games are Yellow, Crystal and Emerald. For the hilarious bugs, the nostalgia and the waifu MC respectively. The moment the DS arrived, they went to shit along with the rest of Nintendo IPs.

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