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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:21:25 No.35831572 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35831775 >>35832181 >>35832234 >>35832582

Why are they making the newer games so much easier?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:46:16 No.35831775 Report

Quoted By: >>35831790 >>35832138

>>35831572
Fan feedback

They made Unova and the later regions more linear due to hearing about kids getting lost in Sinnoh and not being able to finish the game

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:48:25 No.35831790 Report

Quoted By: >>35831824 >>35832084

>>35831775
Japanese kids.

I still don't get how they thought Azure Flute was confusing when Regi trio are pure bullshit that might you not even know exist. Myself, I first met one of the Regis in Battle Tower and was confused as hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:52:44 No.35831824 Report

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>>35831790
>Myself, I first met one of the Regis in Battle Tower and was confused as hell.
good, Legendary Pokemon should be surprising, not handed out to you as a participation trophy just because they're on the box.

forcing shitty mandatory ho-oh and lugia events on you was literally the only thing HGSS did wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:56:00 No.35831854 Report

Quoted By: >>35831868 >>35832152 >>35832169

USUM is harder than most old games if you turn off EXP share.
Also
>implying playing on shift and just switching in a perfect counter for free was ever hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 15:57:49 No.35831868 Report

Quoted By: >>35831895

>>35831854
>the new games are hard if you just avoid doing anything the easy way at all
You don't fucking say?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:01:42 No.35831895 Report

Quoted By: >>35831920

>>35831868
I raped the originals with an over leveled Charizard when I was a kid. Pokemon games have always been absolute babby tier.
>the new games are hard if you just avoid doing anything the easy way at all
>complaining about lack of difficulty but not taking 10 seconds to turn off easy mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:04:52 No.35831917 Report

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The problem is that they keep adding new features to help make sure younger players are able to beat the game, but rarely add any inherent difficulty to compensate the idea that anyone would need the help in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:05:06 No.35831920 Report

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>>35831895
But it's already on! That means I have to use it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:22:23 No.35832084 Report

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>>35831790
Modern Japanese children have no free will, as it is suppressed by their educational system so they can be good salarymen. So of course they found it too difficult.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:26:13 No.35832124 Report

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Pokemon has always been incredibly easy and just because you were too retarded to trade for Machop in Goldenrod when you were 6 or 12 or whatever doesn't change that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:27:24 No.35832138 Report

Quoted By: >>35832242

>>35831775
Is that actually true? I’ve never seen a source behind it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:28:27 No.35832152 Report

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>>35831854
Also if you don’t use battle items, rotomdex, or the Pokémon play thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:31:04 No.35832169 Report

Quoted By: >>35832210

>>35831854
usum IS the hardest game
people just use the clear difficulty knobs to make it easier and then complain that the game was casual
very funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:32:22 No.35832181 Report

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>>35831572
Appealing to the lowest common denominator for easy dosh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:34:54 No.35832210 Report

Quoted By: >>35832230 >>35832241

>>35832169
But you can say that for any game. Well most games.
>using strong moves is easy mode!
>using super effective moves is easy mode!
>using this Pokemon is easy mode!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:36:50 No.35832230 Report

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>>35832210
He's obviously talking about the exp share and shift vs set mode, you dolt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:37:05 No.35832234 Report

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>>35831572
They have to make things more accessible for the generation of children who thought it would be a fun thing to eat tide pods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:37:34 No.35832241 Report

Quoted By: >>35832271

>>35832210
but those aren't designed or intended to be a difficulty slider like the other features
use your head, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:37:43 No.35832242 Report

Quoted By: >>35832341 >>35832372

>>35832138
Yes, it's true

http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/13/the-methodical-destruction-of-pokemon-in-black-white/

>Another complaint Masuda had heard was that children were having too much trouble completing the main story of the game, and that they usually ended giving up. Along this line, the map was designed so that it would be a linear adventure and younger players wouldn’t get lost. Since most of the appeal of the game was what you did post-story, Masuda wanted as many people to reach that point as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:39:40 No.35832271 Report

Quoted By: >>35832292 >>35832303

>>35832241
I’m not referring to the exp share, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:41:15 No.35832292 Report

Quoted By: >>35832300

>>35832271
Nothing you mentioned is a clear difficulty slider. The exp share and shift/set mode are clearly meant to enhance or relieve difficulty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:41:58 No.35832300 Report

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>>35832292
Never mind then, I’m a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:42:05 No.35832303 Report

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>>35832271
I know, you're talking about normal game mechanics and that is not equivalent at all
I'm sure if you restricted your moves and pokemon usum would still be the hardest game, regardless, so it's irrelevant too

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:44:41 No.35832341 Report

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>>35832242
>"since most of the appeal of the game was what you did post-story, Masuda wanted as many people to reach that point as possible"
>proceeds to gut the postgame in later gens

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:47:27 No.35832372 Report

Quoted By: >>35832417

>>35832242
>Since most of the appeal of the game was what you did post-story
lamest excuse Masuda , Im now convince that GF are morons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:50:16 No.35832417 Report

Quoted By: >>35832450

>>35832372
>now convinced
>>>now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:52:35 No.35832450 Report

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>>35832417
what ?

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Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:52:49 No.35832454 Report

Quoted By: >>35832500

>why are the pokemon games so easy now
>what do you mean i can turn off the exp share?
i still think new games should have a setting for hard mode or easy mode like b2w2 did but not make it retarded to turn on in the first place. But you have no excuse for refusing to turn the thing off and complain in the same breath.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:56:53 No.35832500 Report

Quoted By: >>35832524

>>35832454
the newer games more have more powerful tools than muh exp share

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 16:58:41 No.35832524 Report

Quoted By: >>35832543 >>35832554

>>35832500
you're just making excuses like a fat person would, refusing to use them isn't going to make your playthrough nuzlocke tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 17:00:02 No.35832543 Report

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>>35832524
I’m not sure what this response is supposed to address

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 17:00:45 No.35832554 Report

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>>35832524
>you're just making excuses like a fat person would
Dams son

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 17:03:04 No.35832582 Report

Quoted By: >>35832641

>>35831572
>kids got lost in Sinnoh
>Gamefreak responds by making BW/BW2 linear regions, but otherwise put their heart and soul into them in regards to 150+ new mons, thought out story, character designs, side content, etc.
>it still undersells, crushing their spirits
>GO! makes 6 gorillion dollars
>GF forever shook

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Jun 2018 17:07:08 No.35832641 Report

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>>35832582
the only reason you think so much heart and soul was in gen 5 was pixel graphics
the same as gen 7

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