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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:38:26 No.35863204 View View Reply Original Report

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>best games
>best remakes (HGSS)
>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
>best starters
>best rival
>best music
>best champion
>best aesthetic and spritework
>best anime season
>best anime movies

Why was Gen 4 the peak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:40:35 No.35863217 Report

Quoted By: >>35863294 >>35863342 >>35863731 >>35864086 >>35866875 >>35866928

>>35863204
You forgot
>best meta

And that's honestly the real reason I love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:41:53 No.35863234 Report

Quoted By: >>35863241 >>35865547

>>35863204
>shadows of almia

That's shit compared to the first ranger game though

I am struggling to beat it. It's boring as hell

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:41:54 No.35863235 Report

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Oh great, as if we didn't have enough threads where sinnoh could get shat on, here's another one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:42:54 No.35863241 Report

Quoted By: >>35865547 >>35866864

>>35863234
All of the ranger games suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:43:32 No.35863245 Report

Quoted By: >>35863261 >>35863275

>>35863204
>>best remakes (HGSS)
>>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
You're right

>>best starters
The only decent ones were Gen1's

>>best rival
N is best rival

>>best music
Really forgetable soundtrack

>>best champion
Lance is best champion

>>best aesthetic and spritework
Honestly, gen 7 is better

>>best anime season
>>best anime movies
I can't say

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:43:54 No.35863248 Report

Quoted By: >>35864623

>>35863204
I miss the days where I was carefree and could just play gen 4 pokemon games all day after school

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:45:38 No.35863261 Report

Quoted By: >>35864150

>>35863245
>N is the best rival
>Lance is the best champion
>gen 7 has the best spritework

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:46:10 No.35863267 Report

Quoted By: >>35864165

I always thought that the graphics were terrible in Sun and Moon but then I find out that the models are actually quite good, it's just that the 3DS has a terrible quality screen.

With that said, I'm quite excited for the graphics that will be on display for the 2019 game. What sort of style do you want it to be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:47:26 No.35863275 Report

Quoted By: >>35863304

>>35863245
Gen 7 doesn't have spritework

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:49:05 No.35863294 Report

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>>35863217
Correct. Before it got bloated to hell with Gen 5's hidden abilities and weather-based metagame and gen 6/7's clusterfuck, but still much better and intuitive than gen 3 due to the special/physical split.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:49:56 No.35863304 Report

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>>35863275
Are you dumb ?
Being sprites or 3D models is not what matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:50:51 No.35863315 Report

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>>35863204
>best games
haha fucking no
>best remakes (HGSS)
you got me there
>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
debateable but ok
>best starters
pretty okay but certainly not the best
>best rival
who?
>best music
definitely distinct but not the best by a long shot
>best champion
debatable but you're not wrong
>best aesthetic and spritework
nah not even close
>best anime season
didn't watch
>best anime movies
didn't watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:52:33 No.35863338 Report

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>>35863204
You just said it yourself OP, Gens 3 and 4 will always be the peak of the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:52:39 No.35863342 Report

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>>35863217
Post-Mence HGSS OU is pretty much as good as OU will ever be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:53:51 No.35863351 Report

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>>35863204
I like Silver better as a rival and the gen 3 starters are equal to 4 imo. But everything else is correct.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 21:55:17 No.35863365 Report

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>>35863204

>Gen 4
>Peak

Not quite, D/P had issues that platinum fixed so i consider platinum to be the beginning of the golden era, then there's HGSS which are amazing remakes then came gen 5, B/W was good but lacking it wasn't until B2/W2 that made the gen stand out more.

tl;dr:

Gen 5 was the peak, gen 4 only began the peak

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:16:34 No.35863558 Report

Quoted By: >>35863626 >>35863787 >>35865585

HGSS were some of the best Pokemon games, it's not fair to include DPPT with it because Sinnoh is the worst fucking region by far. HGSS was not hampered down by absolutely horrendous pokemon distribution as you could easily make a team of only Gen 2 Pokemon after Bugsy. It also didn't have an over reliance on HMs and the saving time was much, much faster than DPPT's fucking slog.

BW2 > HGSS > everything else >DPPT
If you disagree there's a 90% chance it's because Gen 4 was your first gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:22:46 No.35863626 Report

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>>35863558
Based!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:23:27 No.35863632 Report

Quoted By: >>35864658

>>35863204
Is it me or have we had a bunch of Sinnoh threads recently?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:26:30 No.35863663 Report

Quoted By: >>35863702

>>35863204
>best games
not even close
>best remakes (HGSS)
correct
>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
sure
>best starters
even gen 5 had better starters
>best rival
hahahahaha
>best music
if by that you mean most forgettable
>best champion
fair
>best aesthetic and spritework
oh no no no
>best anime season
ok
>best anime movies
no comment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:27:39 No.35863673 Report

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abyss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:28:35 No.35863685 Report

Quoted By: >>35863726 >>35863769

>The best generation is [the one I played first].
>The worst generation is [the one that came after the one I played first].
Kill yourself. And you know this mostly applies to sinnohfetuses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:29:57 No.35863702 Report

Quoted By: >>35863869

>>35863663
>even gen 5 had better starters
Holy shit, how can someone have such horrendous taste? I don't even like Gen 4, but the starters were miles better than the atrocities that are the unova starters.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:30:52 No.35863713 Report

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>>35863204
>Introduced the strongest non-Mega Pokémon which has god-like powers
It was based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:32:00 No.35863726 Report

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>>35863685
No it doesn't. Calm your raging hateboner and remove your bias and it's pretty obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:32:32 No.35863731 Report

Quoted By: >>35863794

>>35863217
>best unofficial meta makes the shit game good
no it doesnt

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:35:37 No.35863768 Report

Quoted By: >>35863837 >>35864723

>>35863204
>best games
DP as base games invalidate this

>best remakes (HGSS)
Agreed

>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
Explorers is good, Rangers dropped after the first one (a Gen III spin off)

>best starters
Strong designs, but definitely not the best, especially on the competitive side

>best rival
A klutz. Even Cheren and Wally are better.

>best music
Subjective

>best champion
Subjective

>best aesthetic and spritework
This gen was partially 3D, and HGSS did it better than the Sinnoh games

>best anime season and movies
XY(Z) and AG are much better than filler hell.

Gen 4 kids are definitely coming to age around these parts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:35:43 No.35863769 Report

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>>35863685
t.Unovabort

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:37:34 No.35863787 Report

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>>35863558
Just curious, but how would a post-Bugsy Gen 2-only team look like in HGSS?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:38:35 No.35863794 Report

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>>35863731
I'm not talking about the unofficial meta, anon

Nice strawman, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:42:44 No.35863837 Report

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>>35863768
What's wrong with a klutz? Better to have a klutz but still memorable rival than a blande and forgettable one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:45:49 No.35863869 Report

Quoted By: >>35863901 >>35863914

>>35863702
That's the point. Gen 5 starters were awful but at least they weren't completely bland like gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:49:18 No.35863901 Report

Quoted By: >>35863931

>>35863869
Gen 5 starters are the blandest, just behind the Gen 2 starters. There's not much wrong with the Gen 4 starters, maybe besides their mid-evolutions. Solid concept, solid design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:50:44 No.35863914 Report

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>>35863869
While I think that gen 4 starters are overhyped here, I also think that there's literally nothing worse than gen 5 starters except for maybe gen 7. Gen 5 starters are horrendous across the board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:52:53 No.35863931 Report

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>>35863901
I always thought the gen 4 starters looked like knock-offs of the gen 1 starters, except maybe piplup, but to each their own.

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Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:54:23 No.35863941 Report

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>>35863204
>can't reuse TMs
Nope. Honestly that one single QoL change makes it really hard for me to go back and enjoy the older games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:54:40 No.35863944 Report

Quoted By: >>35863973

>>35863931
>I always thought the gen 4 starters looked like knock-offs of the gen 1 starters
How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:57:08 No.35863973 Report

Quoted By: >>35864067 >>35864088

>>35863944
>grass dinosaur with a plant growing out of it, but this time it's a tree!
>this time the fire comes out of its head!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 22:57:14 No.35863974 Report

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>>35863204
>best games
debatable

>best remakes
comparatively within the series, that's not saying much, but they are my favorites regardless

>best spin-offs
they were ok

>best starters
I honestly don't think any game had "best starters", they were all mixed bags, you could probably use all existing starters to engineer the best possible trio but that's for another time

>best rival
fuck no

>best music
it was good but it wasn't as memorable as other games, make fun of trumpets all you want

>best champion
her having that esthetic and not having an Umbreon bothers my autism to no end, but other than that I wanna say yes

>best aesthetic and spritework
no, it kickstarted the trend of ugly pokemon with shit put all over them (giratina, infenrape etc.) that was already surfacing with the gen3 legendaries, and the series is only now slowly recovering

>best anime season & movies
>watching the anime

it was my favorite gen though, guess it was consistently good and the bad didn't outweigh the good, plus it spawned my favorite pokemon

too bad I hated the region

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 23:09:01 No.35864067 Report

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>>35863973
Torterra is also a tortoise and not just a dinosaur like Venusaur. It's also based on the myth of the world turtle.
Infernape is completely different than Charizard, the only even slight similarity between the two being that a part of their body is on fire. Otherwise, they're a completely different design with a completely different concept, completely different colour scheme and completely different typing. That's just cherrypicking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 23:10:57 No.35864086 Report

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>>35863217
VGC2014 was damn close tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 23:11:09 No.35864088 Report

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>>35863973
Torterra at least has something behind it, but I kinda think that it's done in a worse way than Venusaur. Instead of seeing the plant grow with the creature, it just kind of moves all over the place.

Every Fire starter has fire coming out of somewhere on their body so I don't think that's a good comparison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 23:18:13 No.35864150 Report

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>>35863261
Based grayon poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Jun 2018 23:19:15 No.35864165 Report

Quoted By: >>35864599

>>35863267
>models are good
>glasses bend around his hair

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:11:33 No.35864599 Report

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>>35864165
Glasses are never straight, all pairs curve around your temple slightly. I've had like 10 pairs of glasses that I've worn half my life so I would know.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:16:10 No.35864617 Report

Quoted By: >>35864624

>bought pokemon platinum off ebay a couple days ago
>came today
>it's fake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:16:58 No.35864623 Report

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>>35863248

right? holy fuck, gen 4 was 4th grade for me and that was when everybody got into pokemon. for that brief year i was cool, but not as cool as that dick whose mom just bought him the best cards online

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:17:14 No.35864624 Report

Quoted By: >>35864635

>>35864617
You can still play with it right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:19:11 No.35864635 Report

Quoted By: >>35864644

>>35864624
it works, but i got ripped the fuck off, it's impossible to find real pokemon games off ebay nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:20:02 No.35864644 Report

Quoted By: >>35864696

>>35864635
How much did you pay for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:21:16 No.35864653 Report

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>>35863204
>best games
Here's your reply senpai

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:22:00 No.35864658 Report

Quoted By: >>35865443

>>35863632
Yes there have. I think it's just one guy trying to force the whole cycle meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:27:46 No.35864696 Report

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>>35864644
15 bucks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 00:32:53 No.35864723 Report

Quoted By: >>35865075

>>35863768
>best music
>subjective
>best aesthetic and spritework
>somehow not subjective
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Cut it out with that "subjective" shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 01:19:53 No.35865003 Report

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>>35863204
This triggers hoennbabies and unovabortions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 01:30:06 No.35865075 Report

Quoted By: >>35866854

>>35864723
Take a look at the detail between Platinum and HGSS, and tell me how HGSS ISN'T a straight upgrade from Platinum visually?

From the grass, to the little effects like short grass blowing in the leaves, to even the fucking shoreline making ambient noises as the player walks around it.

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 02:20:33 No.35865402 Report

Quoted By: >>35865478

>>35863204
>>best remakes (HGSS)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 02:28:29 No.35865443 Report

Quoted By:

>>35864658
Cycle meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 02:34:05 No.35865478 Report

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>>35865402
Not much competition when the others are ORAS and literal garbage that restricts multiplayer functions in a communication-based series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 02:47:20 No.35865547 Report

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>>35863234
>>35863241
Shit taste

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Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 02:52:31 No.35865585 Report

Quoted By: >>35865692

>>35863558
>HGSS was not hampered down by absolutely horrendous pokemon distribution as you could easily make a team of only Gen 2 Pokemon after Bugsy.
Yes it was

> It also didn't have an over reliance on HMs
Johto is cut and rock smash: the game, it's even worse than Sinnoh. It's got the same number of HMs but they're all mandatory and whirlpool is more annoying than defog.

> the saving time was much, much faster than DPPT's fucking slog.
It's exactly the same as Platinum's save time. This was a hardware issue and they're on the same type of cart.

HGSS also started the dumbing down of NPC teams and has absolutely horrendous item distribution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 03:09:54 No.35865692 Report

Quoted By:

>>35865585
>Ice Punch Jynx
heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 03:12:24 No.35865706 Report

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>>35863204
Can't beat gen 5 when this song exists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiNYhb543xs

Soon you'll tell me gen 3 was good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 07:03:01 No.35866854 Report

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>>35865075
That's subjective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 07:06:13 No.35866864 Report

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>>35863241
Idk I thought the first one was pretty good. It has been literally a decade since I played it though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 07:09:47 No.35866875 Report

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>>35863217
I don't know if I'd call it the best but it's definitely the one I enjoyed the most. The phys/special split, a myriad of new, interesting held items and a bunch of evos to Kanto/Johto/Hoenn shitmons that made a lot of them competitively viable again made for a very fun experience. I wish I could relive those days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 07:25:11 No.35866928 Report

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>>35863217
Amen.

My boy Magnezone was fierce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 10 Jun 2018 07:31:55 No.35866971 Report

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>>35863204
>best games
hell no
>best remakes (HGSS)
hell yes
>best spin-offs (explorers of time, shadows of almia)
no
>best starters
original concepts but evos have random shit added for no reason
>best rival
literally who
>best music
it's okay
>best champion
maybe
>best aesthetic and spritework
only gen 1-3 sprites are good, aesthetic is ok
>best anime season
hell no
>best anime movies
didn't watch

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