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That time GF skipped a 3rd version

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:10:32 No.35991039 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>35991042 >>35991050 >>35991054 >>35991055 >>35991056 >>35991066 >>35991228 >>35991315 >>35991358

Why did it not happen? XY always screamed "polished beta" to me, so see GameFreak deliberately skip what seemed like a way to give Kalos justice and fix Gen 6 related issues perplexes me like you have no idea

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:11:27 No.35991042 Report

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>>35991039
>wanting more third version garbage

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:12:14 No.35991045 Report

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Because marketing demanded a new gen for the 20th anniversary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:12:37 No.35991050 Report

Quoted By: >>35991311 >>35991759

>>35991039
probably wouldn't have been worth it if they had done it like Ultra SM. The last 'extra' game with worthwhile add-ons was BW2

but boy do I wish they did, I actually like Kalos. I spent the first 40 hours just catching, trading, and getting to the second gym. The rest of the game was very lackluster however

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:13:25 No.35991054 Report

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>>35991039
kyurem got 2 forms. That why zygarde was left. And gamefreak is probably too lazy to fix the biggest mistakes in kalos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:13:47 No.35991055 Report

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>>35991039
I was hoping for a BW2 style game that takes place after ORAS and XY with some hoenn characters popping up. Maybe southern kalos with the ORAS mega stones and even full on new pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:14:10 No.35991056 Report

Quoted By: >>35991240

>>35991039
Yo-Kai Watch happened. Everyone was tired of Gen 6 and ready to move on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:15:32 No.35991066 Report

Quoted By: >>35991076 >>35991090 >>35991113 >>35991176

>>35991039
They didn't "skip" fuck all. It's more likely that they didn't plan for it in the first place - at all.
Pokemon Z and anything to do with it is all fan meme garbage, and assumptions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:17:34 No.35991076 Report

Quoted By: >>35991085

>>35991066
If Pokemon Z wasn't planned at some point, Zygarde wouldn't exist.

We still know absolutely nothing about Zygarde beyond the fact that it protects the ecosystem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:19:32 No.35991085 Report

Quoted By: >>35991107 >>35991115

>>35991076
>If Pokemon Z wasn't planned at some point, Zygarde wouldn't exist.
What retarded logical leap led you to that conclusion? Are you saying two extra 2nd gen games were planned just because Entei and Raikou exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:20:31 No.35991090 Report

Quoted By: >>35991105

>>35991066
>It's more likely that they didn't plan for it in the first place - at all.

Just like they didn't plan anything for both Rayquaza, Giratina and Kyurem? Hell, even Zyg's signature moves exist in base XY, like it was the case with Kyurem-B/W signature 2 turn moves:

https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_X_and_Y

>Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves are moves unobtainable in Generation VI, confirmed in Generation VII to have been intended for Zygarde. They are physical Ground-type moves with 90 power, 100% accuracy, and 10 PP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xshtQTWooww

Kyurem proof: https://youtu.be/LNMqkRuMdOw?t=241

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:23:59 No.35991105 Report

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>>35991090
>Just like they didn't plan anything for both Rayquaza, Giratina and Kyurem?
No? Because they got games and Zygarde didn't. What's wrong with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:24:25 No.35991107 Report

Quoted By: >>35991121

>>35991085
No because Suicune was just chosen because they didn't design a third member for Ho-Oh and Lugia.

Zygarde was blatant third game bait just like Rayquaza, Giratina, and Kyurem were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:25:16 No.35991113 Report

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>>35991066
>didn't plan to double dip and get a ton of extra money like they've done for every single other generation
Are you a retarded ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:25:35 No.35991115 Report

Quoted By: >>35991126

>>35991085
>have game x with box legendary starting with x
>have game y with box legendary starting with y
>both have post-game legendary starting with z
>tradition for the past 3 generations of having post-game legendary being box legendary of additional version
Gee, I wonder why people would possibly expect a third version for Gen 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:26:43 No.35991121 Report

Quoted By: >>35991127 >>35991128

>>35991107
>Zygarde was blatant third game bait just like Rayquaza, Giratina, and Kyurem were
And Entei/Raikou were blatant base version bait just like Groudon/Kyogre, Dialga/Palkia, Zekrom/Reshiram

What's your point

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:28:08 No.35991126 Report

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>>35991115
>muh patterns
>I expected it so that must means game freak must have planned it

wew lad, I bet you also think that there was a """"planned"""" Grey version that got cancelled so they could make BW2, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:28:24 No.35991127 Report

Quoted By: >>35991134

>>35991121
His point is that you're cherry-picking and being retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:28:26 No.35991128 Report

Quoted By: >>35991134

>>35991121
>comparing two members of a trio to box mascots

autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:29:51 No.35991134 Report

Quoted By: >>35991144 >>35991150 >>35991161

>>35991128
>I'm going to pretend Suicune isn't a box mascot

autism

>>35991127
Not so much cherry picking as it pointing out flaws in his autistic patternfagging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:31:29 No.35991144 Report

Quoted By: >>35991179

>>35991134
Stop pretending to be retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:32:18 No.35991150 Report

Quoted By: >>35991179 >>35991194

>>35991134
Suicune wasn't designed to be a box mascot. It only became one because there was no other legendary that could fill the role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:33:36 No.35991161 Report

Quoted By: >>35991179

>>35991134
>pointing out flaws in his autistic patternfagging
Gen 2 was the first gen to have box legendaries at all. It's not surprising when the trend wasn't 1:1 between it and successive generations. Pattern recognition and predicting future events based on prior trends is something that anyone with a >70 IQ does regularly. If you're not a pygmy who somehow found a working computer, please apply yourself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:35:49 No.35991176 Report

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>>35991066
>Game has 2 unused ground time moves calle thousand arrows & waves respectively
>People speculate they're for Zygarde because he's part ground type and follows Kyurem's pattern in that regard
>Anime reveals Zygarde has multiple forms (pic related) and one of them uses one of said moves
>Nuh uh! They had nothing planned for him and you don't have proof!

leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:36:02 No.35991179 Report

Quoted By: >>35991185 >>35991213

>>35991150
>Suicune wasn't designed to be a box mascot
It clearly was if it ended up being a box mascot.

>It only became one because there was no other legendary that could fill the role.
Nice conjecture.

>>35991144
Except I'm not pretending to be retarded. Do you have an actual argument or not?

>>35991161
>Gen 2 was the first gen to have box legendaries at all
And Kalos was the first region to only have two versions. What's your point?

>Pattern recognition
There's a difference between recognizing patterns and pretending patterns are rules. You can't truly "predict" future events if Game Freak has absolutely no obligation to stick to patterns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:37:31 No.35991185 Report

Quoted By: >>35991196

>>35991179
>It clearly was if it ended up being a box mascot.

No because there was nothing special about Suicune in Gold/Silver, it was no different from the other members of its trio.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:39:53 No.35991194 Report

Quoted By: >>35991211 >>35991216

>>35991150
>It only became one because there was no other legendary that could fill the role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:39:58 No.35991196 Report

Quoted By: >>35991214 >>35991240

>>35991185
>No because there was nothing special about Suicune in Gold/Silver
And this is a reason that they couldn't use it as a box mascot because....?

There was nothing special about Rayquaza in RS
There was nothing special about Giratina in DP
There was nothing special about Kyurem in BW

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:41:17 No.35991203 Report

Quoted By: >>35991240

>Masuda literally says he doesn't want to do Pokemon Z because it's too predictable
>patternfags sperg out when it doesn't happen regardless

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:42:02 No.35991211 Report

Quoted By: >>35991248 >>35991297

>>35991194
>event mythical
what did you mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:42:12 No.35991213 Report

Quoted By: >>35991235

>>35991179
>And Kalos was the first region to only have two versions
Only, not first, Alola has already had four.
>There's a difference between recognizing patterns and pretending patterns are rules
>"let me autistically fixate on how he claims that it was skipped like he knows gamefreak's decision making process and then call everyone else autistic, that'll show them"
The sun will probably rise tomorrow. People thought that there would probably be a Pokemon Z. Inductive reasoning is still a form of reasoning even if it's not necessarily accurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:42:22 No.35991214 Report

Quoted By: >>35991235

>>35991196
>There was nothing special about Rayquaza in RS
>There was nothing special about Giratina in DP
>There was nothing special about Kyurem in BW

They all had dungeons dedicated to them and had clear connections to the other box mascots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:42:56 No.35991216 Report

Quoted By: >>35991248

>>35991194
Events can't be game mascots Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:45:52 No.35991228 Report

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>>35991039
Two things:

They had to speed things up to stay in line with the anime

or

Pokemon Z will be the remake of x/y for the Switch when it is its turn for a remake

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:46:30 No.35991235 Report

Quoted By: >>35991254 >>35991258

>>35991213
>Only, not first, Alola has already had four.
i.e. The first

>People thought that there would probably be a Pokemon Z
Thinking something doesn't make it true. Also
>>>>>>probably

>>35991214
>They all had dungeons dedicated to them
So just like Suicune

>and had clear connections to the other box mascots
So just like Suicune

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:47:05 No.35991240 Report

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>>35991196
>There was nothing special about Kyurem in BW

He shares the same battle theme Reshiram/Zekrom has and there's even an unused orb for it literally called God Stone.

>>35991203
If that's true, then something definitively happened that made GF change it's mind, and it could've potentially been YW like >>35991056 said (it was quite the juggernaut back then)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:48:59 No.35991248 Report

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>>35991211
>>35991216
To be fair it wasn't that way until Crystal happened and made it both Japan and Event only

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:50:03 No.35991254 Report

Quoted By: >>35991273

>>35991235
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or genuinely this stupid. There is a broad field of study dedicated to making absolute statements about the likelihood of events which may or may not happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:50:27 No.35991258 Report

Quoted By: >>35991273

>>35991235
how is suicune even related to lugia?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:53:46 No.35991273 Report

Quoted By: >>35991284 >>35991290 >>35991294 >>35991328

>>35991254
You can't make any meaningful statements about the "likeliness" of a fucking developer doing whatever they want.

>>35991258
How is Lugia even related to Ho-Oh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:55:16 No.35991284 Report

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>>35991273
big flying boys protecting things

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:56:13 No.35991290 Report

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>>35991273
Lugia and ho-oh are birds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:57:17 No.35991294 Report

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>>35991273
>meaningful statements about the "likeliness" of a fucking developer doing whatever they want
You're right, I'm sure everyone in the boardroom making decisions about the highest grossing franchise ever agreed without any dissent about changing their marketing formula for the core of the franchise because some guy decided he wanted to do something different and unpredictable this time. That's how businesses work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 01:58:23 No.35991297 Report

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>>35991211
>pedantic faggotry
what did you mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:01:27 No.35991311 Report

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>>35991050
I wish I could play kalos up to the third gym for the first time again. The pacing was perfect and the game promised so much more

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Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:02:01 No.35991315 Report

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>>35991039
good, fuck third versions
gf wasn't able to make it good and complete the first time? well, too bad, it just means they suck!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:03:37 No.35991328 Report

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>>35991273
this retard finally gave in

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:08:10 No.35991358 Report

Quoted By: >>35991369 >>35991371

>>35991039
Why people STILL want third versions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:09:28 No.35991369 Report

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>>35991358
>updated graphics
>bug fixes
>revamps
>added mechanics
>more regional pokemon
>better post game
honestly I just want a late teen/early trainer option in a bikini

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:09:42 No.35991371 Report

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>>35991358
gf brainwhashing
it's really sad to see people on /vp/ wanting more of these scams

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 02:11:37 No.35991382 Report

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GF had a chance to redeem Zygarde in Gen 7, but they fucked it up, so it will forever remain the most forgettable and pointless legendary in existence

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 27 Jun 2018 03:08:45 No.35991759 Report

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>>35991050
Yeah, it really had a pretty nice beginning. It got disappointed after halfway through, though, with the lackluster dungeons, bad performance and limited features.

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