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>>36050711
Being justified doesn't absolve you of stupidity and Zinnia is very stupid. Being justified in intent doesn't mean you still didn't completely fuck up and Zinnia hugely fucks up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:36:53 No.36050757 Report

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>>36050730

She's a cutie so it's fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:37:52 No.36050762 Report

Quoted By: >>36050767

>>36050668
Worst game ever made

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:38:49 No.36050767 Report

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Because she's an arrogant brat that's never been taken down a level, which she clearly needed. That's what happens when your kids never get a good ass whooping.
>>36050762
You're saying that but I'm trying to play Black and it's just so much worse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:41:43 No.36050786 Report

Quoted By: >>36050798

Why does she knock you out? I've completed it multiple times and I still don't get it. They establish that you're pretty much the only person she trusts yet she does that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:43:21 No.36050797 Report

Quoted By: >>36050893 >>36050998

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:43:24 No.36050798 Report

Quoted By: >>36050817

>>36050786
She knocks you out because the scene before needs to take place at night but the scene after needs to take place during the day. It's essentially just a timeskip. A really shitty timeskip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:44:38 No.36050808 Report

Quoted By: >>36050829

>>36050711
Not really. Her reason for trashing Steven's plan is based of of meta level information she should have no access to, and the narrative has no real way of showing that she made the right choice since it's presented as a precaution for something that MIGHT happen if something happens to be a certain way in a universe none of the characters can confirm the existence of.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:45:55 No.36050817 Report

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>>36050798
Why not just have nightfall come with Rayquaza's appearance? He's already enough like Shenron as is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:47:45 No.36050829 Report

Quoted By: >>36050868

>>36050808
No?
She know all this from her family, generations etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:49:50 No.36050846 Report

Quoted By: >>36050874 >>36050879

>>36050668
>People still complain about this
>When RR episode was 10 times more retarded

i guess its nice to be biased about something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:52:33 No.36050868 Report

Quoted By: >>36050878 >>36050904 >>36051785

>>36050829
How would her ancestors know there is a universe where Mega stones don't exist?
It's still meta level information that would require observations not possible for characters within the game's narrative, even ancient ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:53:36 No.36050874 Report

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>>36050846
I'm the OP and I haven't played Gen 7 at all and know next to nothing about the story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:53:58 No.36050878 Report

Quoted By: >>36050937

>>36050868
>How would her ancestors know there is a universe where Mega stones don't exist?
They could be faller/s or knew about fallers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:54:17 No.36050879 Report

Quoted By: >>36050883

>>36050846
RR had a nice element, confirming that your actions matter, not just that of <generic protagonist>.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:55:11 No.36050883 Report

Quoted By: >>36050903

>>36050879
>confirming that your actions matter
like what

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:55:56 No.36050893 Report

Quoted By: >>36051290

>>36050797
Stop posting that edgy shit, is not good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:56:57 No.36050903 Report

Quoted By: >>36050927 >>36050939

>>36050883
Every cartridge is its own parallel universe, i.e. if you won in one game, then you saved, in that specific parallel universe, the world.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:57:00 No.36050904 Report

Quoted By: >>36050919 >>36050937

>>36050868
The thing is
She was right about Groundn, she was right bout Kyogre, her source is the same, why is she going to be wrong now?
That's all, there is nothing else to explain
You fags will complain about anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:57:43 No.36050911 Report

Quoted By: >>36051282

>>36050687
Yes, half brother and sister are a canon ship...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 19:59:47 No.36050919 Report

Quoted By: >>36050946

>>36050904
It's not about being wrong.
It's about having access to information that is impossible to have even if true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:00:27 No.36050927 Report

Quoted By: >>36050985

>>36050903
wow, thanks for your headcanon bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:02:13 No.36050937 Report

Quoted By: >>36050950

>>36050878
It's established that fallers are not accurate sources of information and often have mental trauma themselves.
>>36050904
She was wrong about the most important part, Rayquaza (thinking she could access it's mega form) so it's not like she had the word of god on her side.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:02:16 No.36050939 Report

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>>36050903
That's right, so make sure you buy ALL the games and save ALL the worlds.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:03:35 No.36050946 Report

Quoted By: >>36050960 >>36051000

>>36050919
So you hate her for knowing things you don't and can't know
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:04:03 No.36050950 Report

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>>36050937
>It's established that fallers are not accurate sources of information and often have mental trauma themselves.
So? Looker and Nanu have this information so Zinnia's ancestors could have it aswell

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:05:17 No.36050960 Report

Quoted By: >>36051000

>>36050946
>things SHE doesn't and can't know
ftfy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:07:31 No.36050974 Report

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I feel like they already moved away form the idea of a alternate dimensions as it was presented in Delta episode.Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon treats them as entirely different realities, not just slightly different worlds based on game cart versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:09:53 No.36050985 Report

Quoted By: >>36051003

>>36050927
>thanks for your headcanon bullshit
>delta episode confirms RSE hoenn exists in another universe
>RR literally deals with multiple universes where according to the villains "if there had been someone like you to stop me maybe things would have been different"
>maxie and archie in RR are not the remake versions
>"""headcanon""" """bullshit"""

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:11:50 No.36050998 Report

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>>36050797
Things were fine. She didn’t need to interject here. This was selfish, and Fug did not approve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:12:04 No.36051000 Report

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>>36050946
>>36050960
AND she doesn't bother to explain herself at any point yet acts like everyone else is an idiot because they don't know the things she knows (but won't tell). AND she then destroys the one plan that would have worked to force everyone to rely on her plan that she hasn't explained at all. AND then her plan goes wrong and you have to bail her out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:12:28 No.36051003 Report

Quoted By: >>36051029 >>36051145 >>36051149

>>36050985
>>delta episode confirms RSE hoenn exists in another universe
Even that is just commonly accepted conjecture. Delta episode never really offers any confirmation that Zinnia's theory is true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:12:55 No.36051009 Report

Quoted By: >>36051056

>>36050668
all the new post stories have been complete cancer

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:17:56 No.36051029 Report

Quoted By: >>36052101

>>36051003
>Delta episode never really offers any confirmation that Zinnia's theory is true.
And? Pokemon rarely confirms its lore first-hand. We dont know HOW they created Mewtwo or Type Null. We just know that they SOMEHOW created new life out of nothing.

We dont know what original Dragon was or where was it from

We dont know why AZ is immortal

etc etc
Same goes with Zinnia's theory except this time around its confirmed in next gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:23:39 No.36051049 Report

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>>36050668
Delta episode pretty much confirmed that May and Brendan are going to bang.

But yeah, Zinnia was pretty stupid, and the diverging timelines idea wasn't really the best for this franchise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:25:17 No.36051056 Report

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>>36051009
X and Y's was some of the worst shit I've ever felt I needed to play.

Could've just had complete your Dex as the post-game like gen 1, but no, here's a story about some homeless ninja-thief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:34:03 No.36051107 Report

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>>36050668
This is the only good thing that gf did in entire 3DS arc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:34:56 No.36051114 Report

Quoted By: >>36051168

>>36050711
Wouldn't she have doomed the world if it weren't for the MC?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:40:13 No.36051145 Report

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>>36051003
>Zinnia's theory
>"there is another hoenn, just like this one, the draconids have been watching it"
>"""""""""""""""""""THEORY""""""""""""""""""

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:40:51 No.36051149 Report

Quoted By: >>36051165

>>36051003
but then where did OG Archie and Maxie come from

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:43:05 No.36051165 Report

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>>36051149
A separate Ruby/Saphire timeline where they won so there are atleast three Ruby Saphire timelines and the ORAS timeline, and in two of three Ruby Saphire timelines one respective team won.

It's stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:44:22 No.36051168 Report

Quoted By: >>36051173 >>36051219 >>36051238 >>36051833

>>36051114
Yeah, and if it wasn't for her you would have killed another planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:45:46 No.36051173 Report

Quoted By: >>36051185

>>36051168
In that scenario I literally don't care. It's either this planet, with everybody I know on it, or another with nobody I know.

It's an easy choice without Zinnia. But it was nice she had a plan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:47:45 No.36051185 Report

Quoted By: >>36051196

>>36051173
You know, that reasoning is why Zinnia doesn't gives a fuck and do as she please

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:49:46 No.36051196 Report

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>>36051185
Good for her.

Doesn't stop the reasoning being sound.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:52:04 No.36051219 Report

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>>36051168
So without the MC, one planet is guaranteed doomed, but with the MC both are saved
Checks out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:54:46 No.36051238 Report

Quoted By: >>36051269

>>36051168
>on this scenario i can either save both planets or doom one
>on this other scenario one planet gets doomed 100% of the time

i think i choose the former, without the side of stupidity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 20:58:15 No.36051269 Report

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>>36051238
>on this scenario i can either save both planets or doom one
anon the plot is already very simple
please don't be stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 21:00:02 No.36051282 Report

Quoted By: >>36051293

>>36050911
>half brother and sister
grayons.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 21:00:47 No.36051290 Report

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>>36050893
No edge here, just some good ole fashioned justice.

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Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 21:01:17 No.36051293 Report

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>>36051282
"dey nayberrs. dey relateted"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 22:49:11 No.36051785 Report

Quoted By: >>36051873

>>36050868
You know... there are pokémon that can travel between dimensions

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 22:56:30 No.36051826 Report

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>>36050711
Just like when America nuked Japan lmao.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 22:57:40 No.36051833 Report

Quoted By: >>36051852

>>36051168
>you would have killed another planet
*might have

she made a very huge assumption that the other world had no means to protect themselves from a meteor, IF it even it got flung to a path heading to another planet in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:00:30 No.36051852 Report

Quoted By: >>36051894

>>36051833
is pretty obvious the other world was the orginal RSE world
read between lines anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:03:40 No.36051873 Report

Quoted By: >>36051891

>>36051785
Because the average person in the Pokemon world has easy access to these creatures, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:05:17 No.36051891 Report

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>>36051873
she wasn't your average person

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:05:54 No.36051894 Report

Quoted By: >>36051910

>>36051852
That's not the point that I'm making.
How did she know that the other Hoenn had no means to protect themselves from a meteor? She didn't. All she did was assume they didn't because her world has Mega Evolution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:08:20 No.36051910 Report

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>>36051894
and her point was "what if"
we can keep going in circles all day anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 06 Jul 2018 23:44:39 No.36052101 Report

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>>36051029
>We dont know HOW they created Mewtwo or Type Null. We just know that they SOMEHOW created new life out of nothing.
Actually, about mewtwo, it's implied that they heavily experimented on Mew's offspring, which they named Mewtwo. They didn't create a new life out of nothing

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