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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:28:57 No.36110398 View View Reply Original Report

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>Evolves at level 54

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:34:28 No.36110415 Report

Quoted By: >>36110421 >>36110885 >>36113320

>gen 8
>evolution levels still won't be balanced

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:38:16 No.36110421 Report

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>>36110415
Nah, t-they totally will bro!

Lenoor !egTFf5eKeY

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Lenoor !egTFf5eKeY Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:47:17 No.36110436 Report

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>not even 51

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:52:42 No.36110448 Report

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>>36110398
Really needed a middle evo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 11:58:04 No.36110462 Report

Quoted By: >>36111932 >>36113058

The original idea was to have even the later game pokemon stick around for a while before evolving, but they didn't consider what that would mean for later entries.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 13:27:20 No.36110789 Report

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>>36110398
>and it sucks in battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 13:48:47 No.36110885 Report

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>>36110415
Not a problem if you just don't play it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:06:08 No.36110947 Report

Quoted By: >>36111079

Ponyta evolves at 40, and you can find it at level 7 in Pt, and same with Noibat in USUM not evolving til later.

I'm all for middle stage evos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:10:38 No.36110959 Report

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They should make a pokemon that evolves 99 times, one at each level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:20:14 No.36111003 Report

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I am still waiting for a mon that evolves at 99 or 100

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:27:50 No.36111037 Report

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>>36110398
They need to almost completely redo it and its evo.
>buff their stats, change the level Rufflet evolves, give them Fighting type instead of Normal, improve their movepool so Sheer Force has more to work with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:36:05 No.36111079 Report

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>>36110947
>I'm all for middle stage evos.
But the fucking game storyline is about over when you hit the mid level 40s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:38:39 No.36111095 Report

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>>36110398
>one level higher than a goddamn legendary

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 14:39:26 No.36111101 Report

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>RuffletRowlet
heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 17:11:40 No.36111932 Report

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>>36110462

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 17:13:04 No.36111949 Report

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>>36110398
At least they weren't crazy enough to make it evolve at level 76.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 17:20:33 No.36112001 Report

Quoted By: >>36112474 >>36115002 >>36115170

>decent birds are only available late in the game
>normal types stink at learning decent TMs and HMs
>water types that can't learn ice moves
>fishing rod only available in the late game
>first-half-game mons have terrible defense and special attacks
>most Unova lines could've been easily fixed by cutting them down to only having 2 stage evolutions
Unless you're a huge fan of bugs, nobody should defend Unova's pokemon selection.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 18:02:05 No.36112245 Report

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>Normal/Flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 18:38:50 No.36112474 Report

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>>36112001
I am a massive fan of the Bug Renaissance, but I see where you're coming from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 19:12:43 No.36112689 Report

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>>36110398
It's fine. It is available in its fully evolved form in Gen V and Gen VII, where it ultimately matters. Furthermore, these two games have the explosive level curve so it can easily level up if you fight higher-leveled Pokemon. There are also good methods to increase your EXP in both games:
- BW: Lucky Egg + Audino + Exp. Powers
- BW2: Lucky Egg + Breeders in White Treehollow or Audino + Exp. Powers
- SM: Lucky Egg + High-leveled trainers
- USUM: Lucky Egg + Rotom Exp. Power + Wild Chansey/Blissey

And ORAS has the Blissey bases for the wild Rufflet in Mirage Islands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:06:04 No.36113008 Report

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>>36112689
>SM
>high leveled trainers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:06:46 No.36113016 Report

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>>36111079
Maybe that's the bigger issue. Spread out evolution levels and make the stories longer/harder so you don't finish the game with Pokemon around 40-50s.

I might be in the minority but I really hate having a full team or fully evolved mons early/midgame. It'd make things better for late game mons as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:15:46 No.36113058 Report

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>>36110462
Even in BW it's a nuisance, it feels wrong having Pokémon that still might not be fully evolved when you're fighting the Elite 4 and final bosses.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:34:36 No.36113163 Report

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>>36110398
>Evolves at level 59

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:35:55 No.36113174 Report

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>>36110398
>Doesn't evolve

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:43:06 No.36113230 Report

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>evolves at level 38
>until Gen VII barely higher BST than a middle stage starter
>now has similar BST to single stage shitmons and fully-evolved-by-20 mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:43:45 No.36113239 Report

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>>36111037
>sheerforce has more to work with
Return, rockslide, superpower, shadow claw is amazing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:44:46 No.36113250 Report

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>>36113163
>Has a ridiculous egg hatch cycle
>Has a next to zero success chance at calling for help

Did it ever occur to anyone that this thing is a redesign of some of the rejected pokemon from the gold/silver ages as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:52:58 No.36113320 Report

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>>36110415
Ironically Gen 5 had the best balancing.

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Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 20:54:59 No.36113333 Report

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>>36113320
gen 5 had interesting stat distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 15 Jul 2018 23:57:05 No.36114777 Report

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>>36110398
>Using one on my current Ultra Sun playthrough
>About to fight Nanu
>Crabominable, Jellicent, Eviolite Pupitar, and Muk carrying the team
>Can't evolve Growlithe yet because it hasn't learned Flare Blitz, Rufflet goes down every fight
>Was originally going to use Noivern but fucking Noibat was dragging the team down and I wasn't going to use exp share just for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:22:48 No.36114990 Report

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>>36113333
>hey bro what if we just min max the SHIT out of everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:23:00 No.36114993 Report

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I loved Gen 5 bros, anyone else feel this way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:24:02 No.36115002 Report

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>>36112001
>Unless you're a huge fan of bugs
And ghosts, Unova was kind to ghosts as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:30:15 No.36115059 Report

Quoted By: >>36115165

>>36110398
I actually don't mind evolutions like this, as long as the end result is worth it, like Braviary or Volcarona; makes it feel like an actual reward.

That's just me though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:30:57 No.36115067 Report

Quoted By: >>36115158

>>36113239
>Return
But that one doesn't have an additional effect.
?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:41:17 No.36115127 Report

Quoted By: >>36115163

>evolves at level 54
>the evo is worse than staraptor in every way despite it evolving at level 36

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:46:17 No.36115158 Report

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>>36115067
rock slide is the only move he listed that's even affected by sheer force

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:47:05 No.36115163 Report

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>>36115127
Braviary is much bulkier and does have a higher attack stat. (though that's irrelevant since Staraptor now has reckless)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:47:23 No.36115165 Report

Quoted By: >>36115186

>>36115059
Except braviary is completely terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:48:14 No.36115170 Report

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>>36112001
>>fishing rod only available in the late game
which is perfectly fine because there were only 4 aquatic based water types in Unova.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:49:16 No.36115178 Report

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>>36112689
>Lucky Egg + Rotom Exp. Power
Roto EXP doesn't stack with the Lucky Egg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:50:18 No.36115186 Report

Quoted By: >>36115196

>>36115165
I've never had a problem with him. I wouldn't build a competitive team around him, but he hasn't ever disappointed me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:51:41 No.36115196 Report

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>>36115186
Well every mon can be used in the main story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 00:52:03 No.36115197 Report

Quoted By: >>36115349

>>36113008
>Go to Poni Wilds
>Chansey SOS
"Oh shit, maybe I could EXP off these"
>Encounter is infrequent
I'm so happy this was addressed in USUM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:02:43 No.36115251 Report

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>>36112689
scratch that. I was thinking of money multiplier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:07:11 No.36115275 Report

Quoted By: >>36115326 >>36115351 >>36115354

>meant to fight psychic pokemon
>has a type thats extremely weak to psychic as a secondary
Why must they torment my love for Haunter and Gengar

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:15:27 No.36115326 Report

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>>36115275
+ Psychic was immune to Ghost in Gen 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:18:54 No.36115349 Report

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>>36115197
>poni groves chansey only appears off a riolu sos
>riolu has fucking final gambit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:19:30 No.36115351 Report

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>>36115275
>>36115326
And gengar and haunter didn't even really have stab until the pysical/special split

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:20:13 No.36115354 Report

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>>36115275
>>36115326
Just play FRLG my guy

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Anonymous Mon 16 Jul 2018 01:51:39 No.36115538 Report

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Fuck Gen 5.

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