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Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 07:09:06 No.36124266 View View Reply Original Report

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Why are the Nidoran species considered as two different Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 07:11:52 No.36124273 Report

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>>36124266
My dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 07:12:36 No.36124275 Report

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>>36124266
The're both endangered species with the other gender extinct but are relatively close in biology to breed together. This is why they are found in the safari zone and why nidorina and nidoqueen can't breed since they have diverged more from female nidoran's genetics.
It is also my autistic headcanon that I just made up right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 07:16:13 No.36124283 Report

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>>36124266
Because it's their gimmick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 08:19:59 No.36124425 Report

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>>36124266
Because the only thing more retarded than genwunners is genwun.

Meowstic

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Meowstic Tue 17 Jul 2018 08:35:28 No.36124461 Report

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>>36124275
Fuck, that's actually a really good explanation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 09:07:59 No.36124551 Report

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>>36124266
Because of the limitations of RB coding at the time.

They wanted to have gender differences, but they had no idea how to program the gender system. Along with memory constraints at the time before they learned how to compress the size of the game to fit in more games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 09:54:29 No.36124653 Report

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I still don't know why they didn't recon this in gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 09:56:20 No.36124657 Report

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Because Gamefreak doesn't want to change iconic pokedex numbers by making them a gender difference. Mewtwo is now 149.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 10:00:54 No.36124663 Report

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Unironically; Retards believe they are based on rabbits

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 10:07:07 No.36124677 Report

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Because they are. They just have the same name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 11:47:11 No.36124943 Report

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I don't know. It should've been retconned the instant that genders were extended to other pokemon. They want to make believe all the games are consistent with each other. They're not. Just fix it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 11:54:50 No.36124964 Report

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>>36124657
Just add Crobat. It'd put Mewtwo back down to 150, and no other pokemon have iconic numbers except maybe Pikachu, who comes after so it's a non issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:03:37 No.36124988 Report

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>>36124663
>rabbit body shape
>not a rabbit
so what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:08:52 No.36125042 Report

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>>36124461
Holy fuck that gave me a seizure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:10:49 No.36125049 Report

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I like to think of it as Volbeat/Illumise. Just pretend the names are different -- like Nidoron and Nidoran or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 12:56:20 No.36125201 Report

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>>36124275
Shit. Lately /vp/'s had a lot of autistic headcanons that seem retarded at first glance but then convince me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 13:43:52 No.36125341 Report

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>>36125201
What other headcanons have you seen anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 13:51:01 No.36125363 Report

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>>36125049
Bad analogy. Volbeat and Illumise are the same species too. Granted, gender differences had not been invented yet. That should've been abolished by gen 4, but by then, they couldn't afford to change the status quo. It's only hope is to be rebooted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:48:54 No.36125605 Report

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>>36124964
If you put in Crobat you have to put in the other cross gen pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:50:29 No.36125609 Report

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>>36124266
Original games didn't have genders, they wanted to separate the forms. Every game after, they're scared of retconning.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:53:22 No.36125621 Report

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>>36124551
>Limitations

It was shitty coding/design period. There was no limitation for something like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:53:43 No.36125622 Report

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>>36124988
because its just an ambiguous pocket monster that isn't based on just 1 or 2 animals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:55:19 No.36125629 Report

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>>36125622
autistic edgy contrarian detected

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 14:59:00 No.36125641 Report

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>>36125605
That's not true, you retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:02:03 No.36125650 Report

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>>36125629
seek help

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:06:01 No.36125659 Report

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>>36125641
>Crobat randomly shoved into Kantodex
>Pichu and other babies aren't
>Eeveelutions aren't
>Porygon evos aren't
>Munchlax and other Gen 4 additions aren't

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:13:36 No.36125685 Report

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Why are they considered as the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:16:59 No.36125698 Report

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>>36124275
nice and comfy headcanon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:25:02 No.36125722 Report

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>>36125622
>rabbits
>with poison horns

See, how easy was it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:27:18 No.36125729 Report

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>>36125659
I would just let there be old national dex which is useful to check generation of the Pokemon, and alongside make a new one updated every gen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:27:45 No.36125730 Report

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>>36124275
So is this like a horse-donkey situation with sex exclusiveness? Except they give birth to either a donkey or horse- not a mule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:29:59 No.36125744 Report

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>>36124275
Nice, but it doesn't explain why Nidoqueen can't breed with anything even with Ditto

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 15:59:22 No.36125902 Report

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>>36125729
That IS what they do. Did you forget the regional dexes exist?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:04:55 No.36125931 Report

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>>36125902
Dumbass. Just take the L. I won the argument.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:09:16 No.36125951 Report

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>>36124551
IF it was because limitations on the code they'd have fixed it by gen III with Illumise/Volbeat but they didn't introduce gender differences until gen IV
At that point they should've just retconned the national dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:12:13 No.36125971 Report

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>>36124266
Why are they associated with Normal typing (Moon stone, Whitney had a Nidorina etc)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:13:26 No.36125974 Report

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>>36125363
Why is it a bad analogy? No one bitches about those two and yet it's the same circumstance as the Nidoran.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:14:07 No.36125978 Report

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>>36124266
Because GameFreak refuses to correct outdated material and mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:14:30 No.36125981 Report

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Probably because they couldn't implement split evos or genders in Gen I as they hadn't any space in the code, opting to create 2 separate lines for the one species. Gen II (or Iwata's compression algorithm at any rate) fixed the size/space problem, so they were able to start doing split evos/ as well as giving every 'mon a gender designation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:16:23 No.36125989 Report

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>>36125622
Well one of those animals is surely a rabbit. Look at gen3 nidoranMale sprite then tell me, there's also the whole moon rabbit legend thing and guess what you need to evolve a nidorina/o into a nidoqueen/king?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:16:29 No.36125990 Report

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>>36125971
Moon bunnies. Whitney having Nidorina was probably the anime thinking F-only (thanks, slugfucker) Pokemon fit well enough with her theme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:19:27 No.36126000 Report

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>>36124657
Just move Pichu, Crobat, or Kingdra back or ignore the change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:20:05 No.36126003 Report

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>>36125902
They don't make regional dexes with all known Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 16:44:13 No.36126111 Report

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>>36125990
Will saying female only still get you banned?
Lemme test
Femaleonly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 17:32:04 No.36126340 Report

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Why are Volbeat and Illumise considered as two different Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 17:37:27 No.36126370 Report

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>>36124266
Gamefreak logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 17:41:37 No.36126400 Report

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>>36125989
>>36125990
I just looked this moon rabbit thing up and huh, I can dig Nidoking/Queen’s line being ultimately lupine in biology/classification even if they themselves have become dangerous, bulky fuckers. I always thought them rabbit-oid anyway thanks to the base Nidoran looking so much like rabbits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 18:17:46 No.36126624 Report

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>>36126340
Again, gender differences were not implemented until gen 4.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 23:19:57 No.36128252 Report

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>>36124663
Retards are the ones who failed to realize that then try to deny it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jul 2018 23:35:55 No.36128332 Report

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>>36124266
because if they went back and fixed it the original 150 would be 149.

that's not to say that they shouldn't, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 00:42:11 No.36128664 Report

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>>36128332
>original

the entire dex would change

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 00:46:36 No.36128679 Report

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>>36126400
Ultimately wolf-like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 01:20:25 No.36128838 Report

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>>36128679
Whoops, I mixed my Latin up. My bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 04:35:20 No.36129704 Report

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>>36128332
>make Mew available in Gold and Silver
>It is moved to slot 149 since its the precursor to Mewtwo
>original 150 preserved

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 04:36:21 No.36129706 Report

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>>36129704
>Pichu and the other babies
>Crobat and Scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 04:40:30 No.36129728 Report

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>>36125744
Something to do with the struggle of breeding rhinos in captivity, with it being almost impossible to get older females to breed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 04:41:16 No.36129731 Report

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>>36124266
When gen 1 came there was not genders on the pkmn data, new species # had to be created.
I was hoping that would have been amended

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 04:41:41 No.36129735 Report

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>>36129728
Works for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 11:11:20 No.36131034 Report

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>>36125605
They could take one of the unused designs like Crokey or something and stick it after Nidoking. Nidorino and Nidoking would both be one number earlier, then you would have Crokey and everything after would stay the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 11:16:10 No.36131052 Report

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>>36126624
Then they were removed in Gen 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 12:13:33 No.36131185 Report

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>>36131052
Because they were ultimately pointless and only like 50 pokemon even got any to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 12:21:01 No.36131203 Report

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>>36124266
Simple answer - They were made before gender came to the games and if they were to make them the same Pokemon now, it would mess up the dex numbers.
Plus, the only thing they share is the name, if they had a different name to each other, they'd be no different to Volbeet/Illumise, Plusle/Minun, Silcoon/Cascoon etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 12:22:57 No.36131209 Report

Quoted By: >>36131328

>>36125974
This guy gets it, the only thing the Nido's share is a name, otherwise, they're different Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 12:57:00 No.36131328 Report

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>>36131052
All gender differences that did exist still exist.

>>36131209
Then how can either Nido have the children of the other? That doesn't make sense by poke logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jul 2018 13:10:32 No.36131372 Report

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>>36124266
Because in Gen 1, they didn't introduce universal gender mechanics. Back then the male/female thing was just the Nidoran family gimmick.

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