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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 13:58:15 No.36216603 View View Reply Original Report

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A friend of mine that didnt play pokemon since gen 1 keeps telling me that pokemon is a dumb game, even at competitive level. Since Im not too much into competitive, can someone help me out and tell me what I should answer to him?

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:01:03 No.36216614 Report

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>>36216603
Nothing, because you really don't know, so don't pretend that you do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:01:59 No.36216618 Report

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>>36216603
Tell him that he's right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:01:58 No.36216619 Report

Quoted By: >>36216640 >>36217087

He's right, but not for reasons he understands. Pokemon sucks competitively because the game is terribly unbalanced thanks to poekemon like Lando-T and horribly broke Mega Evolutions. VCG often has teams identical to one another because the Meta is so rigid.
Genwunner opinions don't matter anyways, tell him to go suck some dick and play GO.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:03:38 No.36216625 Report

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>>36216603
In situations like this one must be civilised
Screech in his face

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:05:12 No.36216630 Report

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>>36216603
Competitive Pokémon is indeed dumb the only fun thing about Pokémon when you're over 18 is collecting, and pokégirls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:05:23 No.36216631 Report

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>>36216603
Just ignore him

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:06:28 No.36216635 Report

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He's right. You're right to like it too, of course, but Pokemon is a children's game. It's really fun, but ultimately it's just a cashcow franchise skating by on brand recognition. Of course it's no worse than any other franchise to be into - liking bright, cheerful, family media is genuinely okay.

So don't try and defend yourself - just don't be so insecure that it's a problem. And don't try to convince others to like stuff they don't like. It's annoying. You shouldn't talk about Pokemon with people who don't like it if you don't want to have it be pointed out that it's fundamentally dumb.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:06:35 No.36216637 Report

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>>36216603
the meta has evolved since gen 1, gen 1 was a very broken game with many mechanics not working and having a very flat meta
>run a tauros
>use hyper beam/bodyslam to sweep
since then the meta has evolved and changed to allow for new play styles, like double battles, which adds a new layer of complexity and is in my opinion the superior format for competitive play as it makes games quicker, more tempo based, and a focus on team composition and synergy more-so than singles. As the roster increased, so too did the number of competitively viable pokemon with checks and counters, so long are the days of snorlax domination of gen 2. Stat allocation, natures, abilities, megas, items, z-moves were not in gen 1, adding in more ways to run a single pokemon.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:07:27 No.36216640 Report

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>>36216619
Legends like Genies and Tapus are more broke than Megas. Megas aren't that bad. Though I wouldn't mind them being nerfed or removed I think priotize balacing legends first.
>>36216603
Your friend is unfortunately right its bad competitively but good in playthroughs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:10:20 No.36216650 Report

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>>36216603
Tell him to watch a commentated VGC match or something. But if he's the type of retard that hasn't played since gen 1 and thinks he knows anything, I have doubts he'll care to change his mind.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:15:20 No.36216669 Report

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eh there's a decent bit of strategy in competitive

you should just play him on Showdown and absolutely destroy him

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:15:21 No.36216670 Report

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>>36216603
>When you're too much of a brainlet to understand a children's game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 14:17:58 No.36216676 Report

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>Since Im not too much into competitive, can someone help me out and tell me what I should answer to him?

"I have no idea what I'm talking about because I'm not into competitive, but I wanted to tell you you're wrong so I consulted the Internet and they have come to the unanimous agreement that you're right."

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 15:36:15 No.36217087 Report

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>>36216619
megas like salamence, gengar, and lucario are broken because even in their base form they were good, and giving them the ability to boost their stats and give them a broken ability at the cost of an item slot is what makes them overcentralizing. if megas were just given to mons that really needed them like mawile, lopunny, and altaria would theoretically work given that gamefreak didn't overdo it and give them minmaxed stats and abilities reserved for shitmons like huge power

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 15:40:10 No.36217111 Report

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>>36216676
Yes that’s what he’s doing. Now help him with a retort instead of picking him apart.

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Anonymous Tue 31 Jul 2018 16:13:45 No.36217321 Report

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>>36216603
Pokemon as a game to ve played through is great. At the competitive level is is garbage. Imagine you're playing chess with someone. You try to move your piece but you have to roll a dice first. If you roll a 6. You can't move this turn. Guess what you rolled. 6. Your opponent moves and instead of moving he makes it so that you have to roll a 1,2, or 3 to do anything. Your turn now. You roll a 1. So you get to do something. You decide to move on of your pieces and take of of his. Wait. You need to roll again. You have to roll a 4 or greater to take his piece out. You roll a 2. His turn. He rolls. He takes your piece out. Do you see where I'm going with this? On top of that only a 50 of 800+ monsters are worth using. So even have favorites chances our they are out classed by something and you'll have to use them instead because they have a better chance a rolling the right numbers you need to win.

tl;dr Pokemon at a competitive level is far to RNG based of having little variety in terms of team building.

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