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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 00:55:31 No.36257052 View View Reply Original Report

How canon do you consider the Pokedex entries to be?

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 00:56:19 No.36257054 Report

Quoted By: >>36257232 >>36257959 >>36259263

I consider them folktales/superstition. Like how people consider black cats bad luck or whatever.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:00:27 No.36257082 Report

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>>36257052
as canon as my gf

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:07:07 No.36257132 Report

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>>36257052
I consider them canon but with numbers exaggerated since the only time GF ever looked up real life numbers was for Mudsdale's weight. Some supernatural stuff like Shedinja stealing souls might be folklore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:07:33 No.36257137 Report

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>>36257052
Absolutely canon. However the dex not only records facts but also tells folk tales about the mons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:08:02 No.36257142 Report

Quoted By: >>36263855

>>36257052
100% canon. There's no reason to believe otherwise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:17:21 No.36257189 Report

Quoted By: >>36257455

>>36257052
God dammit I forgot about this image unil jsut now fuck you OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:18:33 No.36257200 Report

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>>36257052
Give or take depending on the entry. Some stuff is rather ridiculous, others not so much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:19:12 No.36257205 Report

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>>36257052
Canon unless impossible or inconsistent with something like a game mechanic e.g. entei aren't running all over the place in droves barking and causing volcanoes to erupt. Also clashes with the whole Ho-oh resurrection legend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:20:50 No.36257216 Report

Quoted By: >>36262356

>>36257052
I know I shouldn't be this soft, but this pic breaks my heart.
She just wanted to hug him, and it died in her arms. And once she learns it was her fault when she's older, she will feel even worse.
>tfw you feel bad about a fictional person

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:22:34 No.36257232 Report

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>>36257054
This. I headcanon everything. From power levels to pokemon biology.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:28:08 No.36257285 Report

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I take everything 100% literally. All Pokedex entries are TRUE and HONEST and not lies. I scored 49/50 on the autism test but that's not related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 01:54:31 No.36257455 Report

Quoted By: >>36259212 >>36263583

>>36257189
It just fainted, anon
Pokemon can't die

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 02:46:12 No.36257738 Report

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>>36257052
Mostly garbage with the occasional kernel of truth. The trainers write them.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 02:50:55 No.36257765 Report

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>>36257738
>the trainers write them
Why would Pokemon researchers leave the recording of data to 10-year-olds? How is that information in any way valuable to them?

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:05:31 No.36257846 Report

Quoted By: >>36257889 >>36257937

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:06:20 No.36257851 Report

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>>36257052
they are written by children

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:16:25 No.36257889 Report

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>>36257765
I don't know but that's the only thing in-universe that can explain how bad they are. Look at this shit! >>36257846

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:16:58 No.36257893 Report

Quoted By: >>36257920

>>36257052
Pokemon is fictional. I don't know why someone would be skeptical that something in fiction is farfetched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:22:38 No.36257920 Report

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>>36257893
Suspension of disbelief can only go so far and once you throw in crazy numbers that obviously make no sense mine goes out the window.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:23:15 No.36257923 Report

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>>36257052
Doesn't the Pokedex say people eat Togepi for good luck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:25:15 No.36257937 Report

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>>36257846
i love this1

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:27:46 No.36257953 Report

Quoted By: >>36257972 >>36260199

>>36257920
>make no sense
It's a FICTIONAL WORLD, you autistic sperg. It DOESN'T have to make sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:29:38 No.36257959 Report

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>>36257054
this.

blaziken cannot jump over buildings. get the fuck out of here

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 03:33:00 No.36257972 Report

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>>36257953
I'm willing to accept that shit to a degree like how warp travel is handled in Star Trek but that right there? No. There's no fucking way a Magcargo can exist on Earth with the temperature it has or we'd lose it! Pidgeot breaking the sound barrier? Into the trash it goes!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 05:34:23 No.36258503 Report

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>>36257052
I pick and choose which ones are legit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 05:37:33 No.36258526 Report

Quoted By: >>36259151 >>36261095

>snorlax needs to eat enough food for a small town every day despite being the size of like 3 people
>slugma is hotter than the sun
>everything within a 3 yard radius of yveltal just fucking dies
i think its fair to say theyre not wholly accurate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 06:23:40 No.36258806 Report

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>>36257052
not at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 06:37:34 No.36258863 Report

Quoted By: >>36259144

>>36257052
The entries recorded are put there to keep a child's attention, and make capturing hunting down new Pokemon fun and interesting. Which is why all the pokedex seem to be handed out to children. There's some truth, and some exaggeration.
Holding a Spoink for a few minutes may not be enough to kill it, but you still don't want to stress the Pokemon out by doing so which is why researchers and parents tell you not to hold it. Similar to someone telling you a mother bird will abandon her baby if you touch it.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:03:53 No.36259144 Report

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>>36258863
I choose to believe this.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:06:06 No.36259151 Report

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>>36258526

Yveltal's is pretty easy to accept given the plot of XY, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:24:49 No.36259212 Report

Quoted By: >>36259222

>>36257455
Explain all the graveyards.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:28:14 No.36259222 Report

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>>36259212
Napyards you mean

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:28:41 No.36259224 Report

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>>36259222
Good enough for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:36:00 No.36259241 Report

Quoted By: >>36261095

>>36257052
Better than anon’s headcanon. People who complain about Magcargo’s temperature without questioning the logistics of a living lava snail are stupid. If you can’t handle hyperbolic powers in a game about magic fighting animals I have no idea why you’re trying to affix your arbitrary suspension of disbelief.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:38:23 No.36259249 Report

Quoted By: >>36259649 >>36260568

I at least consider Victini entry to be wrong, no invinsible Pokemon exist.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:41:59 No.36259260 Report

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Pokedex entries are based on old folklore/ascientific observations. Real observations of pokemon abilities and powers is more commonplace among serious trainers, who collect and share that information but it doesn't make its way to everyday people, especially kids and younger trainers.
The main function of the Pokedex is actually tracking areas where Pokemon are found, not the useless flavor text bits. Demographic data is much more scientifically important.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 08:43:09 No.36259263 Report

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>>36257054
fpbp
Going from OP's pic, Spoink needing to bounce to not die reminds me of the myth that hummingbirds die when they stop flying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:00:22 No.36259592 Report

Quoted By: >>36259692

>>36257052
It would be useless having an in-game encyclopedia that it's not canon, so i think it's the most canon thing we can have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:02:41 No.36259600 Report

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>>36257052
Each pokedex entry is a summary of a scientific article on that pokemon.

gamefreak is just a bad company

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:22:26 No.36259649 Report

Quoted By: >>36259654

>>36259249
what about mega-fugg

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:23:27 No.36259654 Report

Quoted By: >>36260541

>>36259649
dies to another mega-fug and priority destiny bond

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:35:09 No.36259692 Report

Quoted By: >>36259694 >>36260128 >>36260179 >>36260260

>>36259592
Yeah I love running my completely legit Mew with Draco Meteor, Crabhammer, Dark Void and Sunsteel strike.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:36:06 No.36259694 Report

Quoted By: >>36259707

>>36259692
>crabhammer
anon are you trying to summon you-know-who

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 11:43:01 No.36259707 Report

Quoted By: >>36260265

>>36259694
No.
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 13:44:23 No.36260128 Report

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>>36259692
Maybe new can learn every move but nobody is skilled enough to teach those.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 13:50:52 No.36260145 Report

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It is a part of the way the world is presented, but there are many things that are observable that contradict what is in the pokedex. However, that depends on you correctly interpreting what it is you're observing. No perception can be entirely correct. I would also say that the matter that two aspects of the way this is depicted are in conflict with each other is a violation of consistency. This still makes anything about it invalid, canon or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 13:59:38 No.36260179 Report

Quoted By: >>36263569

>>36259692
What's your point since Mew can still learn all the TM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 14:05:29 No.36260199 Report

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>>36257953
>if it's fiction it doesn't have to make sense
Something something internal consistency.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 14:18:41 No.36260260 Report

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>>36259692
You know, for the longest time I've wanted move tutor to teach mew all moves just to spite you crabhammer-baiterkun

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 14:20:17 No.36260265 Report

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>>36259707
Speaking of he-who-must-not-be-named, was he range-banned or something? I expect the first, maybe second post to be his, but it's not.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 14:37:54 No.36260348 Report

Quoted By: >>36260367 >>36260548 >>36262323 >>36263902

>Alakazam's brain continually grows, infinitely multiplying brain cells. This amazing brain gives this Pokémon an astoundingly high IQ of 5,000. It has a thorough memory of everything that has occurred in the world.

Why haven't they enslaved humanity?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 14:41:36 No.36260367 Report

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>>36260348
Because intelligence has nothing to do with wanting to enslave something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 15:09:16 No.36260522 Report

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>>36257052
They are "canon" to whichever medium introduced them, assuming there is no expected cross-pollination. That said, it is also hard to take some of the earlier entries seriously, but they also have little actual importance to the video games, card games, movies, and tv show( with some exceptions). The great thing about any narrative medium though is that you can write whatever the fuck you want in the realm of fiction.As such, if you do not like the entries, it is entirely within your power to simply ignore them.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 15:12:49 No.36260541 Report

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>>36259654
mega-fugg does not not die, it only transcends.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 15:13:52 No.36260548 Report

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>>36260348
Cause it knows that the best way to play that game, is to not play at all.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 15:18:33 No.36260568 Report

Quoted By: >>36263593

>>36259249
Ahem

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 16:22:25 No.36260879 Report

Quoted By: >>36260935

>>36257972
>le magcargo meme
A plasma cutter can reach temperatures twice that. And you can still stand pretty close to one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 16:33:58 No.36260935 Report

Quoted By: >>36261120

>>36260879
As far as I know, that is only a small area of heat being directed only one way. I'd like to see you stand on the business end and survive. Magcargo is radiating in ALL directions and over a greater area. If the same laws of physics applied, it should be heating up everything around it including the air. Now you've got me on the matter that apparently the same laws of physics don't apply, but I have seen no analysis as to how the physics of the pokemon world DOES work. Off-hand, heat can still be conducted and radiated, which would create the effects I just described. I would need further analysis for the property of convection.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 17:02:26 No.36261095 Report

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>>36258526
>>36257972
>>36259241

Why do people so overreact about Magcargo's temperature? It's all about energy, so little mass even at this temperature would destroy things in few meters radius, but no much more

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 17:06:28 No.36261120 Report

Quoted By: >>36261147

>>36260935
You got it the wrong way around. Because it's radiating in all directions and not concentrated at one point, it there would actually be less heat in any given area around Magcargo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 17:10:34 No.36261147 Report

Quoted By: >>36261880

>>36261120
That would be true if the heat was only coming from one place, but the entire surface is a heat source.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 19:14:10 No.36261880 Report

Quoted By: >>36262200

>>36261147
I don't think you know how lava works. Or even temperature in general. I'm trying to think of anything that consistently keeps a uniform temperature across all of its mass.
Humans have a body heat of 98.6, but I doesn't feel that hot if you touch the skin.
The dex also mentions that third shell is lava that cooled and hardened. That's how lava works. It has a very high internal temperature, but it cools extremely quickly once it comes in contact with the air. You can see videos of people standing on lava and being fine.

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 19:26:45 No.36261958 Report

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not canon at all, that shit it's full of opinions and religious mumbo jumbo.
Just look at shit like Arcanine's entry in pokémon silver: "Its magnificent bark conveys a sense of majesty. Anyone hearing it can't help but grovel before it." Who the fucks lets a degenerate furfag write a pokédex entry? what if I don't give a shit about a stupid fucking dog barking like a retard?

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Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 20:14:38 No.36262200 Report

Quoted By: >>36262427

>>36261880
Magcargo is nearly 10 times hotter than lava. There is no way it could cool down enough from the air alone to make it safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 20:36:33 No.36262323 Report

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>>36260348
What makes you think they haven't, and are just letting us pitiful humans have our delusions in our safe little post-scarcity bubbles nature reserve bubbles?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 20:42:23 No.36262356 Report

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>>36257216
Nothing wrong with that dude, its called empathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 06 Aug 2018 20:54:00 No.36262427 Report

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>>36262200
https://youtu.be/GUqvAXZ4MXg?t=90
ffs, just watch this video. Yeah, yeah, >poketuber and all that. But at least there's actual science involved instead of just googling how hot the sun is and jumping to conclusions

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:11:45 No.36263539 Report

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>>36257052
As canon as legends and myths and the like. Some have to be misinformation or hearsay, there's no way people in the poke world can know/understand some legendary's exact powers.
Think about some of them. That Spoink is fine, it just needs a Pokemon Center trip after a faint. Most adults wouldn't want children to tame a Spoink and then deal with a Grumpig. Or Phantump. If one is born everytime a Phantump egg hatches, then that means some spirit must have arrived to posses a stump. There can't be enough dead people lingering in the Pokemon world to fuel /shw/ autism. Especially not when Yamask is the same thing.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:16:23 No.36263569 Report

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>>36260179
That's true, and mew doesn't really need any of the moves I mentioned, but that's still not "every move", It'd be nice for GF to just give mew the few moves it can't already get.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:18:27 No.36263583 Report

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>>36257455
Lavender Tower

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:20:29 No.36263593 Report

Quoted By: >>36263601

>>36260568
>+6 Mold Breaker Excadrill used Earthquake
>A critical hit!

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:21:30 No.36263601 Report

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>>36263593
>+6

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:29:42 No.36263648 Report

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>>36257052
Some stuff seems like it makes sense, other stuff can be pretty outrageous, and of course there's gossip, folklore and superstition here or there.
But Pokemon are fantastical, strange creatures so it's not some of the stuff can't be wrong either.
Really, just take entries with a grain of salt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:36:38 No.36263688 Report

Quoted By: >>36263725

If the dex can't be used as word, then what is?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:43:08 No.36263725 Report

Quoted By: >>36263742

>>36263688
doujins

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:45:41 No.36263742 Report

Quoted By: >>36263759

>>36263725
By definition, that's not official. I do hope that was a joke.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:48:50 No.36263759 Report

Quoted By: >>36263772

>>36263742
Can't be as big of a joke as Pokemon games with the Pokedex.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:50:58 No.36263772 Report

Quoted By: >>36263838

>>36263759
So canon doesn't matter to you? Can you justify this?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 00:59:21 No.36263838 Report

Quoted By: >>36263877

>>36263772
Sure. There is no accepted official canon, everything down to the individual playthrough is real and separate.
>anime
>but new movies
>tcg
>has nothing to add
>spinoffs
>but also even more spinoffs
>always two versions that contradict each other on where some pokemon can be found
>then a third* invalidates them with plot changes
>remakes do it some more
>pokemon generations
all canon
my doujins are as canon as the manga some people follow
*may also include ULTRA CHANGES

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:02:11 No.36263855 Report

Quoted By: >>36263864

>>36257142
COPYPASTA TIME
>The skull it wears on its head is that of its dead mother. According to some, it will evolve when it comes to terms with the pain of her death.
You can breed female Marowaks in the games. They don't die when the Cubone hatches, yet the Cubone is already wearing a skull. Also, it evolves at level 28. Unrelated to death or its mother.
>Magcargo's body temperature is approximately 18,000 degrees Fahrenheit. Water is vaporized on contact. If this Pokémon is caught in the rain, the raindrops instantly turn into steam, cloaking the area in a thick fog.
You can touch it in Amie/Refresh and not get severely burned. Also, it's 4x weak to Water.
>But gameplay isn't canon!
So you think text in a game is more relevant than things actually shown happening in the game?

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/vp/ - Pokemon Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:04:02 No.36263864 Report

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>>36263855
>So you think text in a game is more relevant than things actually shown happening in the game?
of course

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:06:43 No.36263877 Report

Quoted By: >>36263883

>>36263838
So...nothing is canon. Pokemon does not exist.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:08:33 No.36263883 Report

Quoted By: >>36263888

>>36263877
>Pokemon does not exist.
I don't know what to say to this.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:09:47 No.36263888 Report

Quoted By: >>36263905

>>36263883
What I mean is with nothing to define it, how can we even call it a thing?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:12:47 No.36263902 Report

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>>36260348
Because after a certain point, it's brain wouldn't be able to think properly, people with real photographic memory have been documented as having zero problem solving skills due to most of their brain being for memory storage.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:13:07 No.36263905 Report

Quoted By: >>36263921

>>36263888
With millions of sales on a franchise about fictional creatures?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:16:16 No.36263921 Report

Quoted By: >>36263929

>>36263905
Being able to sell nothing is not the issue. It's still nothing without a definition.

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:18:49 No.36263929 Report

Quoted By: >>36263950

>>36263921
Why does it need a definition?

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Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:22:25 No.36263950 Report

Quoted By: >>36263956

>>36263929
BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T DEFINE IT, THEN IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT EXIST!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:24:28 No.36263956 Report

Quoted By: >>36263992

>>36263950
I guess most of our known universe doesn't exist either desu. Or most of it just doesn't yet.
These mental gymnastics aren't fun anymore. All my doujins, all the doujins I don't own, and all the ones to come are canon and that's final. End of the line.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 07 Aug 2018 01:30:54 No.36263992 Report

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>>36263956
I can define most of the universe. Not entirely, but at least to a small degree. That's more than what you're suggesting for pokemon. What you're suggesting, however, is to put something there that I have no evidence for.

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