Gates was pretty good for a regular playthrough and has a lot of great concepts like what
>>36264756 said and the plot was (subjectively) good thanks to the more focused character arcs, but the limited mon building and slowness of the game kills a lot of incentive to actually go through and do things.
Super kind of suffers from the same thing, though its shortcomings come from the lack of any replayable missions (unless you start a new game entirely), breaks, and lack of any rewarding Level 1/5 dungeons. It's a bit of a meme to call Sky the best, but it really did offer a lot to make players experiment with something different and keep having fun.
>>36264110The fact that these posts were real at one point says a lot about you.
