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Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 15:31:10 No.36335197 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36335263 >>36335275 >>36335344 >>36335686 >>36335708 >>36335722 >>36335799 >>36338547 >>36338571

What was the point of this?

Is there any way of using it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 15:54:02 No.36335263 Report

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>>36335197
>What was the point of this?
The point? It's a very nice concept but like Meloetta the way the form changing works is retarded.
>Is there any way of using it?
Sadly not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 15:56:21 No.36335275 Report

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>>36335197
>What was the point of this?
It's just a gimmick because they wanted to create something unique
>Is there any way of using it?
In a serious team? No

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 16:10:39 No.36335344 Report

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>>36335197
a pokemon that relies on being below half hp to be effective in a meta where a large part of viability is how well they can stall, (its not able to do it as a tankmon that can stall without needing to be half hp) how many ohkos and 2hkos they can get, (zen mode isnt strong enough to score many important kills) or how much utility they bring (can burn something but thats it) means zen mode was fucked to begin with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 16:11:44 No.36335351 Report

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it's a design that put flavor over function and it didn't work out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 16:27:29 No.36335452 Report

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It's a defensive mon that needs to halve its already puny HP and its EV spread will make it deadweight before or after changing form anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 16:30:00 No.36335468 Report

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How viable would Zen Mode be if it could change forms outside of battle and start a match already in ZM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 16:41:54 No.36335529 Report

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>>36335468
heavily reliant on someone else to put up a Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:12:29 No.36335664 Report

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>>36335468
Mega Camerupt with worse typing & no SR but with better speed, defenses, and can hold an item

NU at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:12:57 No.36335667 Report

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>>36335468
If it had Sheer Force it wouldn't be too horrible in lower tiers. Still much worse than normal Darmanitan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:17:35 No.36335686 Report

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>>36335197
should have just been a branch evo
with like magic guard as a good alternative to sheer force

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:20:22 No.36335708 Report

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>>36335197
>What was the point of this?
Show off hidden abilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:23:35 No.36335722 Report

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>>36335197
>What was the point of this?
To tease you the hidden abilities trying to manipulate you into signing up to play their shitty browser game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:34:45 No.36335779 Report

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>>36335664
id say it be BL2 or UU at best
since theoretically if it keeps sheer force
stab+LO Fire blast and Psychic is no joke
and Focus blast for coverage
all 3 moves boosted by sheer force

and it has pretty good bulk and Hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:38:52 No.36335799 Report

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>>36335197
Honestly a neat concept, but even if the form worked properly you still (mostly) have the movepool of a physical pure Fire-type

>>36335468
NU special tank, maybe an analysis as a trick room sweeper in one of the higher tiers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 17:53:27 No.36335885 Report

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>>36335779
you really think psychic darmanitan would be a tier above gardevoir, espeon, and necrosma

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 18:03:14 No.36335951 Report

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>>36335885
If it retains Sheer Force, it would probably be unmatched in damage output among special attackers before stat boosts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 18:57:01 No.36336250 Report

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>>36335468
>defensive psychic/fire pokemon
destroyed by knock off
destroyed by earthquake
no recovery

ZU

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 18:59:04 No.36336259 Report

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>>36335722
Dream World was one of the only things that made BW bearable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 19:01:52 No.36336278 Report

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>>36336259
DW was shit and i'm glad it's dead and buried

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Aug 2018 19:28:32 No.36336447 Report

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>>36335263
Pirouetta is still usable tho it'd be much better if you could change forms like the genies. Same for Shaymin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Aug 2018 01:20:56 No.36338460 Report

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>>36336447
If it's ability also swapped all it's offense ev's around and hit with the highest attack stat,it would work.

Either that or Something like the ev swapping idea as before + Melloetta switching forms based off a moves attack type (it's own version of Protean).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 19 Aug 2018 01:34:29 No.36338547 Report

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>>36335197
To have another Unova pokemon with a terrible ability since apparently Gamefreak thought it was a good idea to make Gen 5 not fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Aug 2018 01:37:28 No.36338571 Report

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>>36335197
>What was the point of this?
BW/B2W2 was about making most new pokemon boring or useless. A trend that continues to this day.
>Is there any way of using it?
At all? Yes. Competently? No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 19 Aug 2018 05:29:55 No.36339795 Report

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>>36336250
>it has standard type weaknesses so it's unusable
Extremely low HP and no recovery kill its chances as a wall and a tank, brick in quicksand speed kills its sweeping capacity.

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