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Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:53:11 No.36351980 View View Reply Original Report

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Which is better competitively, Doubles or Singles?

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy

Brett !!TORtoOQMEfy Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:53:41 No.36351986 Report

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Triples.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:54:25 No.36351989 Report

Quoted By: >>36352034

>>36351980
Doubles doesnt have many stall mons viable, so yeah

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:54:30 No.36351991 Report

Quoted By: >>36354129 >>36356949

>>36351980
doubles because stealth rocks and stall sucks ass to play against

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:57:01 No.36352005 Report

Quoted By: >>36353959 >>36354129 >>36357591

>Singles
>Deal with landorus-T bullshit
>Doubles
>Also Landorus-T's bullshit
No escape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:57:56 No.36352014 Report

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Singles for life

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:58:19 No.36352015 Report

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>>36351980
Singles rewards noticing what is the objectively best options and realize which pokémon you need to keep to counter the opponent.
Doubles is a lot faster and encourages you to try to pull of more predictions and make riskier moves since the tides can turn so quickly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 19:59:35 No.36352024 Report

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The only reason doubles is the official format is because it's a lot faster than singles.
Singles requires much more thought put into each action since you can't just rely on your second move to back you up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:00:17 No.36352030 Report

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>>36351980
gen 3 doubles, early gen 4 singles

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:00:50 No.36352034 Report

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>>36351989
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:09:16 No.36352086 Report

Quoted By: >>36353993

I don't quite know why but I've always struggled to like doubles compared with singles despite most jrpgs having multiple party members. From Octopath Traveler for a recent game or mainline Shin Megami Tensei to Etrian Odyssey you have 4 (5 for etrian) party members against multiple enemies and it's quite easy to think about your options. But with doubles in pokemon I've always just found it to be...clunky I guess. Pokemon has a decent amount of depth despite the focus on weakness hitting but it just doesn't seem to be as satisfying with doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:12:26 No.36352110 Report

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>>36351980
Lorelei vs Giovanni?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:16:28 No.36352145 Report

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They both have good and bad and shouldn't be compared because of how different they are.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:18:18 No.36352164 Report

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>>36352145

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:18:47 No.36352169 Report

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Singles is better from a casual standpoint because there are a number of teambuilding options and obscure niches available that can be afforded by a single Pokemon that relies on itself and its teammates. Doubles is probably more skill-dependent but the teambuilding is heavily constrained and strategies are uniform even if the execution of said strategies differs from player to player.

A good player with an unusual team composition can play in singles and still have a hope at winning. A good player with an unusual team composition can't win in doubles against any player with a more standardized team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:19:51 No.36352175 Report

Quoted By: >>36355337

>>36351980
Personally I like not having to run protect on everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:20:34 No.36352178 Report

Quoted By: >>36352218 >>36352219

>>36352169
>A good player with an unusual team composition can't win in doubles against any player with a more standardized team.

But that implies that Doubles isn't skill dependent and just requires you to be lucky or have better Pokemon than your opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:26:09 No.36352218 Report

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>>36352178
It usually comes down to small metagame choices that catch people by surprise. Like that old Pachirisu or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 20 Aug 2018 20:26:18 No.36352219 Report

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>>36352178
I meant to say, in regards to both singles and doubles, "against a player of the same skill".
Having a good team is obviously important, but I'm referring more to the pool of Pokemon that can potentially be good in either format.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 00:52:32 No.36353959 Report

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>>36352005
Kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 00:56:11 No.36353975 Report

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I like singles a lot more and would play way more pokemon on cart if we had more official singles support
but doubles is quicker so it's easier to watch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:00:11 No.36353993 Report

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>>36352086
It's because of how speed and defense works in pokemon. In other jrpgs characters are generally more durable and healing is easier to do plus there are various factors that determine when/who get's to make the first move. In pokemon double battles are essentially single battles with 4 Pokemon instead of 2 and some moves being able to hit multiple characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:03:37 No.36354008 Report

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>>36351980
For diverse metas with multiple different team archetypes, Singles.
For more unique meta with strange strategies, but everything is HO, Doubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:06:08 No.36354017 Report

Quoted By: >>36354074

Singles is for fucking shitters. Doubles is for people that actually have a brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:10:42 No.36354038 Report

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>>36351980
I like doubles. Faster paced, less stall bullshit, no stealth rock bullshit. Team synergy feels much more important, my Bromon Raichu, is very good in doubles but shit in Singles. Plus less stupid rules & bans compared to Smogonshit. However, that's not to say that Doubles is fine, it's still in a shit spot right now and I haven't played in a while because of that. GF really needs to balance the fucking game already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:16:37 No.36354074 Report

Quoted By: >>36354083

>>36354017
sorry that people try to use defensive strats I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:17:50 No.36354083 Report

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>>36354074
>t. faggot who wants to have 100+ turn games for a few ladder points

off yourself

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:23:06 No.36354117 Report

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>>36354083

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:25:19 No.36354129 Report

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Singles because it doesn’t have all the protect shenanigans.
>>36352005
Based Lando
>>36351991
>complaining about rocks when everything has defog now
>>36354083
>tfw got locked on several occasions for telling stall users to kill themselves

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 01:30:45 No.36354162 Report

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>>36354083
>off yourself
Where do kids learn this particular phrase from? I love it because it tries to skirt around actually threatening someone, very cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 03:35:21 No.36354897 Report

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>>36351980
Singles as long as it's not a cancerous tier like OU
tiers like NU and RU are comfy and relatively free of stall shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 05:31:03 No.36355337 Report

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>>36352175
This.
The fact that only choice, or weird meme pokemon don't run protect is strangling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 05:33:14 No.36355341 Report

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>>36351980
doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 05:57:13 No.36355436 Report

Quoted By: >>36355494 >>36356998

Singles

Dubs is for ADD retards with no longer term strategy skills and who can't focus for more than 15 minutes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 06:20:02 No.36355494 Report

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>>36355436
No retard.
No one want's to play stall. Or 6 v 6. BS Singles is cool though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 10:08:46 No.36356121 Report

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>>36351980
Doubles. You can attack twice while your opponent can only attack once. even a medium tier doubles team would beat the best singles team.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 11:39:58 No.36356421 Report

Quoted By: >>36356484

>>36351980
I mostly play random battles so I wouldn't know, but what do you think is better: 6v6, 4v4 or 3v3, in either format?
Do you think 3v3 singles as an official format would speed up the meta since stall wouldn't have enough slots to work and you'd have to nail what you bring to each battle, or are these same reasons the ones that would make a 3v3 format worse than the others?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 11:46:52 No.36356451 Report

Quoted By: >>36356998

ROCK SLIDE
PROTECT
EARTHQUAKE

Brilliant strategies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 11:56:52 No.36356484 Report

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>>36351980
doubles of course, It's pretty much impossible to argue in singles favor, it's boring and the skill floor and ceiling is so much lower
>>36356421
3v3 singles is battle spot meta, It's fun but not really competitive, better than 6v6 but everything is better than 6v6,

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 12:05:29 No.36356512 Report

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6v6 singles = casual
3v3 singles = getting into (pseudo) competitive, understanding the basic, without being too overwelming
VGC = competitive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 13:16:49 No.36356774 Report

Quoted By: >>36356958

>>36351980
Doubles. I want a pokemon game with 50% double battles

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 13:57:30 No.36356949 Report

Quoted By: >>36357783

>>36351991
I wonder who could be behind this post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 14:00:11 No.36356958 Report

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>>36356774
play orre games

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 14:07:38 No.36356998 Report

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>>36355436
>>36356451
*focuses on switch back and forth with confide chansey, unaware shitmon, something steel and pex and what else while opp does the same*
*sets rocks 32 times in the whole battle*
*sometimes you also click volt-turn to feel crazy creative*
yep. now this is skill i am talking about
*slurps decaffeinated semen*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 15:57:46 No.36357591 Report

Quoted By: >>36358902

>>36352005
Lando is outclassed and shit in doubles. Incineroar is a better intimidate user with a better movepool and Zygarde is a better ground type with thousand meme spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 16:26:58 No.36357783 Report

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>>36356949
You cannot defend stealth rocks doing literally half a pokemon's health just for the privilege of being on the field. They should not do typed damage straight up, it makes some types just objectively worse. It's not even like it's just volc that suffers from this either, rock is a really common weakness.

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Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 19:00:16 No.36358836 Report

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>>36351980
Singles, holy shit.
Singles were always better.
Double battles are cancer. The fact that spamming Rock Slide is a legitimate strategy is awful. The fact that Intimidate spam is WORSE in doubles also speaks volumes to why its shit.
You have all these retards praising doubles because VGC shoved it down their throats and that's all their attention span can handle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 19:02:20 No.36358849 Report

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>>36351980
Singles but 3v3 not 6v6 that's retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 19:09:10 No.36358888 Report

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3v3 Singles and 4v4 Doubles are kino. 6v6 is only really good for friendlies

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 19:11:28 No.36358902 Report

Quoted By: >>36358906

>>36357591
>Lando
>Outclassed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 Aug 2018 19:12:25 No.36358906 Report

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>>36358902
Do you even DOU? Incineroar is the best S class and Zygarde second best. Lando is on its way out

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