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Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:05:34 No.36373695 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36373734 >>36373752 >>36376923 >>36376952 >>36377498 >>36380150

ITT: Basically useless moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:06:46 No.36373704 Report

Quoted By: >>36373710 >>36377255 >>36387576

water/mud sport

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:07:19 No.36373710 Report

Quoted By: >>36373725 >>36373874 >>36375556 >>36375714 >>36379557

>>36373704
Has anyone ever used these moves unironically?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:07:22 No.36373711 Report

Quoted By: >>36380329

Every move that isn't Simple Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:09:07 No.36373725 Report

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>>36373710
they're more useful now that they stay active when the user switches out. totally useless in gen iii

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:10:03 No.36373734 Report

Quoted By: >>36373757 >>36373766

>>36373695
Are we talking in-game or competitively? Some gym leaders or other boss fights can have interesting gimmicks with shit like Mud sport despite being useless in most scenarios.

Splash and Hold Hands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:13:42 No.36373752 Report

Quoted By: >>36373823 >>36376556

>>36373695
what were they even going for with this move? aromatisse and this move are catered more to doubles, but why wouldn't you just use something like light screen on aromatisse instead? it's not like brick break is lighting the metagame on fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:14:33 No.36373757 Report

Quoted By: >>36373901

>>36373734
Z-Splash tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:16:52 No.36373766 Report

Quoted By: >>36373777 >>36376653

>>36373734
>The user and an ally hold hands. This makes them very happy.
>Doesn't raise happiness
GF a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:18:42 No.36373777 Report

Quoted By: >>36376653

>>36373766
I thought you meant girlfriend for a solid 20 seconds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:27:43 No.36373823 Report

Quoted By: >>36373868 >>36375708 >>36376405 >>36377257 >>36377818 >>36384065

>>36373752
Gen VI (and to a lesser extent, Gen VII) introduced a heap of random moves that have super limited/no application.
Baby-Doll Eyes, Confide (less the move, more the fact that it's a TM), Crafty Shield, Electrify, Fairy Lock, Flower Shield, Ion Deluge, Magnetic Flux, Powder and Rototiller

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:28:40 No.36373826 Report

Quoted By: >>36373849 >>36373866 >>36373890 >>36377184

>2 turn charging move
>only 80 BP
>Normal, not Flying
>only additional effect is increased crit ratio
Just.... why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:32:03 No.36373849 Report

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>>36373826
>>2 turn charging move
>>only 80 BP
>>Normal, not Flying
>>only additional effect is increased crit ratio
>Just.... why?

Nostalgia :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:34:09 No.36373866 Report

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>>36373826
I never understood why they never touched this move at all after it was introduced. Like, that's good? That's what we're going with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:34:21 No.36373868 Report

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>>36373823
crafty shield usable, but I agree, gen VI introduced a lot of gimmicky signature moves that are near useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:35:20 No.36373874 Report

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>>36373710
The only time I've ever seen Water Sport do anything was during a Showderp match where Ninetales was outdamaging a Togekiss' healing, then it metronomed Water Sport. Otherwise, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:37:25 No.36373890 Report

Quoted By: >>36373947

>>36373826
That and Barrage stand out to me as the two gen 1 moves that really need an update. And Skull Bash, but it actually got one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:38:38 No.36373901 Report

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>>36373757
Oh, forgot about that. Then yea, Splash isn't that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:40:06 No.36373911 Report

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egg bomb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:46:29 No.36373947 Report

Quoted By: >>36374046 >>36376637

>>36373890
Don't forget Submission, the recoil move with a whopping 80 BP.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:47:12 No.36373951 Report

Quoted By: >>36373992 >>36374130

>75% accurate shittier Toxic that doesn't affect Grass-types

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:49:31 No.36373959 Report

Quoted By: >>36374182 >>36375909

The lati@s signature moves that are a clear downgrade from psychic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 21:55:51 No.36373992 Report

Quoted By: >>36374060 >>36375340

>>36373951
It's just an early game Poison setter, before Toxic becomes available. Not all moves have to be useful all the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:02:16 No.36374046 Report

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>>36373947
Brick Break's more accurate, hits almost as hard, and kills screens. If anything it just needs the recoil removed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:04:32 No.36374060 Report

Quoted By: >>36375350 >>36380762 >>36384949

>>36373992
It's not even useful in-game. No one would ever bother using a 75% accurate move that only inflicts regular poison in lieu of outright attacking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:10:49 No.36374105 Report

Quoted By: >>36374134

grudge when destiny bonds exists

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Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:13:44 No.36374126 Report

Quoted By: >>36374201 >>36376030 >>36377290

>Gen 7 didn't have time to add a new Physical Fairy move
>but it did have time for a weaker Razor Leaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:13:59 No.36374130 Report

Quoted By: >>36374193 >>36376849 >>36376923 >>36377586 >>36384949 >>36385430

>>36373951
same with poison gas

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:14:24 No.36374134 Report

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>>36374105
Grudge is kind of useful

>use Grudge on a choiced mon
>they kill you and are forced to Struggle
>you bring in your next mon and get at least 1 free turn to set-up on them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:22:25 No.36374182 Report

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>>36373959
Now that soul dew is shit I vote they get a buff for their sig moves so they have 100 BP and 10 PP

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:24:26 No.36374193 Report

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>>36374130
Poison Gas is actually usable in doubles, it affects both opponents now. Even better with Venom Drench.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 22:25:07 No.36374201 Report

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>>36374126
>tfw Bulu and Koko will never have play rough

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Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 23:15:31 No.36374512 Report

Quoted By: >>36374538 >>36384953

>80 BP 75% accurate Normal move with no secondary effect

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 23 Aug 2018 23:19:07 No.36374538 Report

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>>36374512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIOQfdn9L9c

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 01:57:57 No.36375340 Report

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>>36373992

>>36373992
this. Also most pokemon that learn Poison Power also lear Stun Spore and Sleep Powder, which are far more useful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:01:12 No.36375350 Report

Quoted By: >>36375470

>>36374060
regular poison is literally better than toxic for the first 3 turns

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:22:34 No.36375470 Report

Quoted By: >>36375506

>>36375350
Just 2 turns actually, they even out at 3/8 HP lost on turn 3 then Toxic starts surpassing regular poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:28:46 No.36375506 Report

Quoted By: >>36375967

>>36375470
i always wondered why high level ladder players would never try to get more than one set of toxic spikes up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:34:36 No.36375556 Report

Quoted By: >>36380480

>>36373710
I play Pokemon Reborn, and the bullshit terrain forces you to have any terrain-changing move. So misty terrain gets rid of field effects that never benefit the player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:55:04 No.36375670 Report

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Bestow seems like it could work with some funny Choice band/specs shenanigans if it weren't for the fact that your opponent is almost guaranteed to have an item on all of their Pokemon.

!X8YP/5DOOE

!X8YP/5DOOE Fri 24 Aug 2018 02:58:56 No.36375696 Report

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ummmmmm stealth rock

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:01:30 No.36375708 Report

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>>36373823
I unironically use Baby-Doll Eyes, but for guaranteeing Attack drops against Physical Legendaries so I can just use Leftovers instead of having to heal occasionally.
It was especially useful against Tapu Bulu, due to gen 7's nerfed Sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:02:42 No.36375714 Report

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>>36373710
I used mud sport to beat Watson in a Ruby nuzlocke

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:30:30 No.36375839 Report

Quoted By: >>36375848

Embargo. Knock off has like 100+BP now and does effectively the same thing. Even before the buff it was worthless

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:31:56 No.36375848 Report

Quoted By: >>36375854

>>36375839
Embargo should block Megas and/or Z-moves, then it would, bare minimum, have a niche.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:33:16 No.36375854 Report

Quoted By: >>36375860 >>36375958 >>36376552 >>36376790

>>36375848
Embargo's actually worse than useless, it's eating up a TM slot that could be better used by tons of shit. Same with Confide, who thought a sp attack version of Growl was special enough to need a TM?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:34:42 No.36375860 Report

Quoted By: >>36375867

>>36375854
I feel similarly about Sludge Bomb and Sludge Wave.
They're effectively the same thing and take up two TMs right near each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:35:55 No.36375867 Report

Quoted By: >>36375881

>>36375860
Sludge Wave is like a Poison type Surf and hits your ally, I'm pretty sure. The real issue is that Gengar doesn't learn it via TM, but only from an event

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:38:00 No.36375881 Report

Quoted By: >>36376923 >>36376936

>>36375867
>Sludge Wave is like a Poison type Surf and hits your ally, I'm pretty sure
Then it's still useful and deserves its TM status, but Sludge Bomb could easily be left as a level up/egg move without any negative effects.

>The real issue is that Gengar doesn't learn it via TM, but only from an event
Wait, still?
I thought that was only a thing in gen 5.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:41:03 No.36375909 Report

Quoted By: >>36375927 >>36375939 >>36380548

>>36373959
speaking of legendary signature moves...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:42:46 No.36375927 Report

Quoted By: >>36375975

>>36375909
Isn't it also Darkrai only now, so Smeargle can't learn it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:44:16 No.36375939 Report

Quoted By: >>36375970 >>36375999 >>36376602 >>36383693

>>36375909
>Guys Smeargle with Dark Void is a problem at VGC, what do we do?
>Just make Smeargle not able to learn it anymore
>That sounds go-
>WAIT DUDE WHAT IF WE ALSO DROPPED THE ACCURACY TO 50%???
>That seems unneeded, the issue is Smeargle and that would hurt Dar-
>DO IT ANYWAY LMAO

What were they thinking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:46:56 No.36375958 Report

Quoted By: >>36375978

>>36375854
At least in-game, Embargo is the *one* thing that can stop enemy trainers from healing their Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:48:28 No.36375967 Report

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>>36375506
If you are facing a team that switches often or is highly offensive, the early regular poison damage is more damaging than the toxic. It is just matchup based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:48:52 No.36375970 Report

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>>36375939
The same thing that stops them buffing Feint, nothing.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:49:42 No.36375975 Report

Quoted By: >>36375995 >>36376001

>>36375927
Yep. So now it's a worse Hypnosis only usable by a pokemon that learns Hypnosis by level up. Who thought this made sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:50:00 No.36375978 Report

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>>36375958
In the time it takes for you to use Embargo, you could use that moveslot for a self buffing move, or just pop an X Attack. Pretty much anything Embargo could do, several other things could do better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:51:58 No.36375995 Report

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>>36375975
They didn't even make give Darkrai Darkraium Z to buff it back to its old effect.

stickpony

stickpony Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:52:08 No.36375999 Report

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>>36375939
not like you can ever use darkrai anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:52:19 No.36376001 Report

Quoted By: >>36376131

>>36375975
>Z status moves don't get the perfect accuracy the attacks do
This will always piss me off.

Also, why the fuck don't they take stuff like Dark Void and other things that they specifically chose to make fail out of Metronome's pull list?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:55:35 No.36376030 Report

Quoted By: >>36376456

>>36374126
>Popplio starter gets a 40Bp Water move.
>Litten starter gets a 40BP Fire move with a chance to burn.
>Rowlet gets a 55BP Grass move with a high crit chance.
Seems fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 03:56:23 No.36376037 Report

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Bad moves exist on purpose to make the good ones stand out

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 04:07:54 No.36376131 Report

Quoted By: >>36376148

>>36376001
>Z status moves don't get the perfect accuracy the attacks do
>He wants to deal with a Z-Hypnosis Xurkitree that always gets to setup on you everytime

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 04:10:03 No.36376148 Report

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>>36376131
I'd rather a pile of cables didn't have access to hypnotic suggestion, but I would prefer them to always hit.
You only get one Z-move, wasting it and a turn because it missed it some bullshit.
I probably wouldn't be as annoyed if the attack versions didn't have a guaranteed hit and hit through protect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 04:51:38 No.36376405 Report

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>>36373823
Can electrify be used on allies? if so it'd eventually find a niche, if not well I give up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 04:54:01 No.36376417 Report

Quoted By: >>36376421

Pre-patch Ion Deluge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 04:54:38 No.36376421 Report

Quoted By: >>36376824

>>36376417
How was it different?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:04:31 No.36376456 Report

Quoted By: >>36377106

>>36376030
>Vine whip now has 40 base power
Wooooow.
The real reason is because vine whip doesn't fit rowlet

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:15:42 No.36376508 Report

Quoted By: >>36376513 >>36376547 >>36376796 >>36376895

>nobody mentioned Synchronoise yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:16:43 No.36376513 Report

Quoted By: >>36376540

>>36376508
and Umbreon gets it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:21:00 No.36376538 Report

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Celebrate is literally useless in Gen 6, but in Gen 7 it boosts the users base stats if upgraded into Z-Celebrate.
Still, pretty useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:21:09 No.36376540 Report

Quoted By: >>36376547

>>36376513
Meant to use it with the various Eeveelutions, but really Synchronoise unless we get a Poison- or Fighting-type special attacking Eeveelution.

Also, you can change Umbreon's type with niche moves such as Soak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:22:42 No.36376547 Report

Quoted By: >>36376620 >>36376671 >>36377242

>>36376508
It's the best option Jolteon has for hitting other Electric-types.
What if Synchronoise worked on Pokemon of the same level instead of Pokemon of the same type?
>>36376540
>Fighting-type special attacking Eeveelution.
Literally never going to happen. Fighting is far too hardwired to be physical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:23:36 No.36376552 Report

Quoted By: >>36376608

>>36375854
Confide is how I beat Ultra Necrozma, so I don't mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:24:25 No.36376556 Report

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>>36373752
Game Freak created plenty of moves aimed for doubles, including ones that boost an ally's stats by a single stage. But GF didn't know players don't really use moves that boost defenses.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:32:05 No.36376593 Report

Quoted By: >>36376638 >>36385223

i'm willing to bet like 80% of you didn't even know/forgot this move existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:34:16 No.36376602 Report

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>>36375939
Edgy faggots who use Darkrai deserved that overnerf anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:35:05 No.36376608 Report

Quoted By: >>36376652

>>36376552
>Confide is how I beat Ultra Necrozma
Fucking what. Did you not have anything that could learn Snarl or Struggle Bug?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:38:18 No.36376620 Report

Quoted By: >>36376650

>>36376547
Nasty Plot Aura Sphere/Vacuum Wave Lucario is pretty strong

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:40:21 No.36376637 Report

Quoted By: >>36377027

>>36373947
120 BP from STAB, too bad in the generation it was introduced Psychics ate everything else for breakfast and Fighting types had to cower in their basements hoping not to be found.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:40:26 No.36376638 Report

Quoted By: >>36376719

>>36376593
Gear Up is basically the attack version of Magnetic Flux, so it's niche at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:42:59 No.36376650 Report

Quoted By: >>36376669

>>36376620
Yes, but that's Lucario. A special snowflake in more ways than one. There's also Keldeo in the Special Attacking Fighting-type camp, plus a handful of very competent mixed attackers. That does not change the fact that the overwhelming majority of Fighting-types are intended to be physical attackers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:43:13 No.36376652 Report

Quoted By: >>36376691

>>36376608
A couple things could learn Snarl, but they couldn't survive the first hit if it wasn't already weakened.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:43:26 No.36376653 Report

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>>36373766
>>36373777

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:45:54 No.36376669 Report

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>>36376650
>There can't be a special Fighting-type Eeveelution because most existing Fighting-types are physical

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:46:23 No.36376671 Report

Quoted By: >>36376676 >>36376701

>>36376547
>Lucario can learn Nasty Plot
WHY.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:48:08 No.36376676 Report

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>>36376671
It can't, but Riolu can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:51:42 No.36376691 Report

Quoted By: >>36376862

>>36376652
Zoroark is literally the Pokemon most associated with Snarl

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:54:50 No.36376701 Report

Quoted By: >>36381202

>>36376671
>Gengar still cant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 05:59:00 No.36376719 Report

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>>36376638
>Magnetic Flux
didnt know that existed neither

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:14:53 No.36376790 Report

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>>36375854
Confide it should be a special feather dance. Lower 2 SpA stages

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:18:06 No.36376796 Report

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>>36376508
It really needs to just go to a poison type Eeveelution. That way, it can’t be stalled by another poison type it because this poison type can attack with a powerful psychic move

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:27:06 No.36376824 Report

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>>36376421
Not the anon you replied to but I looked it up and ion deluge was just plain broken and didn't work in release USUM at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:32:29 No.36376849 Report

Quoted By: >>36376908

>>36374130
Hey, don't be silly... Make one wrong move and Muk will kick your Grass with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:35:13 No.36376862 Report

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>>36376691
Cool. I didn't use it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:36:02 No.36376865 Report

Quoted By: >>36381421

Check out Comet Punch and the absolute state of this move in the current year and current gen.
You'd be surprised.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:44:25 No.36376895 Report

Quoted By: >>36377242

>>36376508
It's a good but extreme niche move, some water types can use it against Toxapex or generic coverage for Water types since it does as much as HP Grass and Electric, but basically due to its extremely limited distribution only Golduck and Vaporeon can benefit from it.

It's best user so far is Jolteon, came up with what initially was a meme set but ended being alright for this move:

AutisticScreeching (Jolteon) (M) @ Psychium Z
Ability: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature / Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Synchronoise
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Volt Switch

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche vs. 248 HP / 144 SpD Venusaur-Mega: 306-362 (84.2 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tapu Koko: 256-302 (91.1 - 107.4%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO (Tapu Koko is faster however)
Would advice using Modest nature still, one of the few cases Jolteon can afford it.

They have buffed Synchronoise to 120BP probably to compense the situational utility of this move and rarity, but you'd be surprised to hear the Z-version of Synchronoise has 190BP, that's quite a lot for the Z-standards.

Am I saying Jolteon is OU material? No, but doesn't mean it's not fun to use there or in lower tiers able to damage other Grass type and Electric switch ins or naturally Sp.Def and AV Fighting types.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:45:40 No.36376900 Report

Quoted By: >>36376909

>create weak moves for early game
>WTF why would I use these moves in OU??!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:47:48 No.36376908 Report

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>>36376849
I don't get all these people who think Thunderbolt's a good electric attack. Have they never been ground down by a Marowak?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:48:06 No.36376909 Report

Quoted By: >>36376917 >>36376923

>>36376900
What about all the weak moves that don't even show up early game, some of which never even turn up during normal gameplay, like fucking Rototiller?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:51:45 No.36376917 Report

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>>36376909
Rototiller Tapu Bulu when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:53:15 No.36376923 Report

Quoted By: >>36377069

>>36373695
>>36374130
>>36376909
Stuff like this is the reason we've got people on this board like me who posit that Doubles should be the default format, as least for trainer battles.

>>36375881
I think the deal is that Sludge Wave is meant to be a stronger Sludge Bomb reserved for a much more exclusive selection of Pokémon; really, if it were up to me, I'd make Sludge Wave the level-up/egg move. Move Tutors ARE a thing... in the later half of each generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:57:12 No.36376936 Report

Quoted By: >>36376938

>>36375881
it's muh gen 5 dream world exclusive gimmick autism
same reason protean kecleon learns mirror type only there for shit and jiggles
but if you don't mind getting upset solrock and lunatone are STILL stuck with Morning Sun and Moonlight being Dream World only exclusives

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 06:58:02 No.36376938 Report

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>>36376936
>but if you don't mind getting upset solrock and lunatone are STILL stuck with Morning Sun and Moonlight being Dream World only exclusives
Okay, what the fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:04:38 No.36376952 Report

Quoted By: >>36376993

>>36373695
Quash needs to be deleted

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:26:59 No.36376993 Report

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>>36376952
What is doubles

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:37:07 No.36377027 Report

Quoted By: >>36377060 >>36377065 >>36377089 >>36379332

>>36376637
In gen 1, there were nine fighting moves:
>Rolling Kick, Jump Kick, and High Jump Kick were all exclusive to Hitmonlee
>Counter was shit that only worked against normal and fighting moves
>Seismic Toss did fixed damage
>Double Kick had the weirdest distribution (Nidos, Hitmonlee, Jolteon)
Basically, if you wanted to use a fighting Pokemon, your STAB options were to use Hitmonlee, Low Kick (50 power), or Submission. Fucking Hitmonlee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:47:31 No.36377060 Report

Quoted By: >>36377092 >>36379332

>>36377027
I don't know what they were thinking when they made Karate Chop Normal typed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:48:28 No.36377065 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377027
>Hitmonchan, the boxer Pokémon that naturally learns the elemental punches
>can’t fucking use the elemental punches until 2006 because Fire Ice and Lightning are Special and it only has a 35 in Special attack

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:49:25 No.36377069 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376923
I agree with you about the double format and I play a lot of it, but I never knews poison gas hits both mons

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:55:50 No.36377089 Report

Quoted By: >>36377121 >>36383883

>>36377027
and hitmontop got triple kick as a signature move
60 bp and 90% accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:56:12 No.36377092 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377060
I imagine it went down something like this:
>"Isn't Karate associated with fighting?"
>"Any basic bitch could do a Karate Chop"

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:57:39 No.36377095 Report

Quoted By: >>36385304

One (1) usage and it's pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 07:59:31 No.36377099 Report

Quoted By: >>36377116

Kinesis. It's a less accurate Sand Attack and exclusive to a line that can just use Flash anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:01:10 No.36377106 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376456
Duh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:03:19 No.36377116 Report

Quoted By: >>36377117

>>36377099
flash had a lower accuracy in gen I, but the Kadabra line also didnt learn it until yellow because of a bug

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:04:52 No.36377117 Report

Quoted By: >>36377276

>>36377116
I think it was less a bug and more "forgot to put it in the learnset"
Either way, why would Zam want to lower accuracy when it can just spam Psychic like it was its goddamned birthright?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:07:37 No.36377121 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377089
Don't forget each hit having an independent chance to miss.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:14:03 No.36377131 Report

Quoted By: >>36377138 >>36382984 >>36384972

Why is Constrict so amazingly terrible?
Is a 10% to lower speed really that good that its trade-off is a BP of 10?
What the fuck, GF?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:16:54 No.36377138 Report

Quoted By: >>36377144 >>36385548

>>36377131
They really didn't want you running away from those Tentacools.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:19:22 No.36377144 Report

Quoted By: >>36385548

>>36377138
I was about to ask whether you could even find Tentacools with levels low enough that they hadn't removed Constrict form their movelist yet, but apparently Tentacool learns Constrict at level 27 in gen 1.
I don't even fucking know anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:22:38 No.36377152 Report

Quoted By:

Why does water gun exist when you can teach your pokemon surf?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:35:52 No.36377184 Report

Quoted By: >>36377191

>>36373826
And to think Razor Wind used to be even more horrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:40:09 No.36377191 Report

Quoted By: >>36377213

>>36377184
>75% accuracy
>80BP
>no high crit rate

Every time I look at Gen 1's moves I find something new that's laughably bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:50:06 No.36377213 Report

Quoted By: >>36377216 >>36377823

>>36377191
>Bulbasaur and Totodile learn it in Gen 2 through Breeding
I could buy Bulbasaur's line using its petals to strike up a strong gust of wind but Totodile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:52:15 No.36377216 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377213
Totodile swings its tail so hard it creates a slashing wind

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 08:58:58 No.36377242 Report

Quoted By: >>36377312

>>36376547
>>36376895
Is it actually useful? I love Jolteon and I find it really predictable so any surprising set would be fun to use. Not sure about dropping the Timid nature, tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:03:22 No.36377255 Report

Quoted By: >>36379899

>>36373704
Mud Sport is mildly useful ingame on a couple of the few non-Ground mons that learn it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:04:55 No.36377257 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373823
Powder was fun as fuck on battle spot in early gen 6, when Blaziken was everywhere and dumb newfags didn't account for Powder existing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:16:48 No.36377276 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377117
It wasn't either. Kadabra does learn it in RGB, it's just that it learns it at such a low level it wasn't until Yellow let you catch wild Kadabra at so low levels they actually had the move in their moveset.

The Move Relearner was a godsend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:23:52 No.36377290 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374126
I wanted this to be a dual typed move as grass/flying. Oh well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:24:46 No.36377294 Report

Quoted By: >>36377308 >>36377311

ally switch is completely fucking useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:26:38 No.36377298 Report

Quoted By: >>36377301

Gen 1 Whirlwind, it did nothing against trainers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:27:55 No.36377301 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377298
>mfw blue's pidgeot had whirlwind in red and blue due to how movesets worked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:29:14 No.36377308 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377294
It's a quasi-variant of Follow Me, it works fine for what it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:29:29 No.36377309 Report

Quoted By:

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rototiller_(move)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:30:30 No.36377311 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377294
It can be pretty handy in Doubles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:31:12 No.36377312 Report

Quoted By: >>36377319 >>36377587

>>36377242
Modest Jolteon speed ties with base 114 +Spe mons, Modest compesates the lack of Life Orb and some OHKO over speed, usually those defensive mons are in fact its switch ins knowing Jolteon is usually a revenge killer or momentum spammer. Might try Timid but I personally found Modest be better in this case, since it doesn't run Specs or LO.

252 Spe Jolteon reaches 359 speed
252+Spe Jolteon reaches 395 speed

You might invest just enough on Jolteon to be faster than specific threats and even have left some HP EVs for "balk" (mostly on special side or extra chance to live Bullet Punch) like the Flame Orb Quick Feet Jolteon did in Gen 5 (enough Spe EVs to be faster than weather abusers and Dragon Dancers, but back then Hidden Power had max 70BP)

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/usum-uu-speedlist.3591824/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sm-ou-speed-tiers.3587531/
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/usum-speed-tiers.3624759/ (RU)

Timid looks more relevant in RU for this specific set.

To each his own, 115+ will be a problem but let's see, Aerodactyl is mostly Sash or goes Mega and you risk speed ties, Espeon is easy to wall nowadays so not a problem, just switch, Weavile if weakened and in Thunderbolt kill range will most likely switch out or opt for Ice Shard expecting an obvious Timid Jolteon (maybe not in low ladder where everyone is just reckless or unaware or doesn't really care about competitive), same goes for weakened Gengar and Tordanus in general that when +Spe outspeed Modest Jolteon, M-Absol has Sucker Punch anyway and M-Houndoom enough bulk, Starmie is most likely forced to switch out too.
Once again RU has enough fast but frail Pokemon that force you to run Timid over Modest, where it has enough Speed and power to remove or revenge kill them without extra offensive investment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:33:02 No.36377319 Report

Quoted By: >>36377365 >>36377436 >>36377587

>>36377312
Also Raikou is relatively bulky and might run Calm Mind (and Jolteon was never a threat to it) so it's useless for Jolteon outspeeding, only funny scenario would be a Raikou at +0 setting a Substitute and remaining around 30% HP, normal Synchronoise should bypass the Substitute being a sound based move and hit it with 120BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:47:15 No.36377365 Report

Quoted By: >>36377384 >>36377587

>>36377319
Also it must be satisfying remove Roserade, Amoongus, Chesnaught and co in one hit with Jolteon, sash flower aside or baiting a kill with 190BP against a weakened Ground type that is confident it can survive let's say a 120BP Hidden Power.

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 176 SpD Hippowdon: 213-251 (50.7 - 59.7%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 176 SpD Hippowdon: 136-160 (32.3 - 38%) -- 0.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Nidoqueen: 458-540 (119.5 - 140.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Black Sludge recovery
252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Nidoqueen: 146-172 (38.1 - 44.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Chesnaught: 508-598 (134 - 157.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Chesnaught: 160-190 (42.2 - 50.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 72+ SpD Amoonguss: 406-478 (93.9 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Black Sludge recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Virizion: 324-382 (100.3 - 118.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 278-328 (67.1 - 79.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (Now that's an overexaggerated SpDef bulk example)

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Cobalion: 263-310 (81.4 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Terrakion: 442-520 (136.4 - 160.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 204+ SpD Dragalge: 260-308 (77.8 - 92.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:54:54 No.36377384 Report

Quoted By: >>36377395 >>36377587

>>36377365

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Abomasnow-Mega: 215-254 (66.9 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Abomasnow-Mega: 194-229 (60.4 - 71.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin: 201-237 (58.9 - 69.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Shaymin: 128-152 (37.5 - 44.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Machamp: 464-546 (144.5 - 170%) -- guaranteed OHKO after burn damage

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Machamp: 308-364 (80.2 - 94.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Heracross-Mega: 388-458 (128.4 - 151.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Buzzwole: 670-790 (160.6 - 189.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Buzzwole: 448-528 (107.4 - 126.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 76 SpD Buzzwole: 590-696 (141.4 - 166.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Infernape: 534-630 (182.2 - 215%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Hariyama: 292-344 (68 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hariyama: 606-714 (141.2 - 166.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after burn damage

I legit home my OC gimmick Jolteon will catch on and "trend" as niche set on devoted and well built teams as not some kind of Showderp only meme.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 09:57:23 No.36377395 Report

Quoted By: >>36377587

>>36377384
Also the old SpDef Roserade

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 240 HP / 252+ SpD Roserade: 282-332 (87.8 - 103.4%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Black Sludge recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Vileplume: 440-518 (124.2 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Black Sludge recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 10:07:30 No.36377436 Report

Quoted By: >>36377587

>>36377319
Just in case:
252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raikou: 127-150 (39.5 - 46.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Raikou: 85-101 (26.4 - 31.4%) -- 14.4% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. +2 0 HP / 4 SpD Raikou: 64-76 (19.9 - 23.6%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

*Correction:
apparently doesn't act like a Sound move but since the Substitute user in question is Raikou, that damage is still worthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 10:27:18 No.36377498 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373695
Ion Deluge

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 10:53:16 No.36377586 Report

Quoted By: >>36377708

>>36374130
I wonder how many people know Toxic Thread exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 10:53:18 No.36377587 Report

Quoted By: >>36377675

>>36377312
>>36377319
>>36377365
>>36377365
>>36377384
>>36377395
>>36377436
Wow thank you so much. I am trying it and it is putting some good work indeed

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:19:28 No.36377675 Report

Quoted By: >>36377711 >>36377721

>>36377587
Also some other relevant calcs:

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 221-260 (57.7 - 67.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Normal Synchronoise hits it like HP Ice for 36.5 - 43.3%

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Heat: 191-225 (63 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-Heat: 121-143 (39.9 - 47.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Rotom-Heat and Frost usually are easy Jolteon switch ins fearing only Shadow Ball at best. In general these bulky ones take a lot from Synchronoise still. Rotom-Wash takes more from STAB but Z-Synchronoise has 55BP more than Thunderbolt's 135BP.
Now add in Stealth Rock damage for Rotom-Heat.

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Manectric: 303-357 (107.8 - 127%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manectric-Mega: 243-287 (86.4 - 102.1%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Where Mega Manectric at best does:
252 SpA Manectric-Mega Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Jolteon: 153-180 (56.4 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Removing these example of cancer mons and core members, be it Volt Turn or defensive core or what usually work as pivots on Jolteon might as well force forfeits.

Said this, Alolan Muk rapes Jolteon as usual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:28:00 No.36377708 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377586
I only know it exists because of Showderp.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:28:23 No.36377711 Report

Quoted By: >>36377776

>>36377675
It is a good tech and the Venu and Amoongus cals are really useful. Thank you so much for telling me a new surprising way of using my fav mon. Here, take my fav Jolteon pic

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:29:42 No.36377721 Report

Quoted By: >>36377784

>>36377675

Further calcs:

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 303-357 (107.8 - 127%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Galvantula: 192-226 (68.3 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 187-220 (58 - 68.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 118-139 (36.6 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 118-140 (36.6 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

M-Ampharos is probably the safest Electric mon that can still switch into Jolteon, consider some run Tanky M-Ampharos and Rest Talker M-Ampharos

252+ SpA Jolteon Shattered Psyche (190 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 187-220 (48.6 - 57.2%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO

252+ SpA Jolteon Synchronoise vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ampharos-Mega: 118-139 (30.7 - 36.1%) -- 53% chance to 3HKO

And they said Z moves didn't save some borderline shitmons or improved their moveset options and roles.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:40:45 No.36377776 Report

Quoted By: >>36377784

>>36377711
You're welcome, Jolteon is still on the roll.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:43:05 No.36377784 Report

Quoted By: >>36377804

>>36377721
>>36377776
Doesn't Galvantula use sash for guaranteed webs? Anyway, same guy here just broke the 1600 easily with surprise Shatered Psyche to every Rotom, Venu, Amoongus and Hippodown and just 2 or 3 defeats. I am having a lot of fun using Jolteon for the first time in a long time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:47:56 No.36377804 Report

Quoted By: >>36377817

>>36377784
Might be Life Orb / Choice lead too, setting hazards turn 1 isn't mandatory after all when you are aware the opposite team has easy defoggers or spinners. Doesn't stop people to spam Stealth Rock on turn 1 for some reason.

It was an example damage calc anyway. Galvantula is an overhyped shitmon regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:52:09 No.36377816 Report

Quoted By:

Reflect Type, but there are a few good meme sets with Latias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:52:40 No.36377817 Report

Quoted By: >>36378068

>>36377804
Also Shatter Jolteon is a priceless bait for easiest Kommo-o kills ever that rely on Bulletproof for Shadow Ball, resisting Thunderbolt and bulking HP ice to set up Z-Clang Soul, DD or Autotomize. Comedy gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:52:50 No.36377818 Report

Quoted By: >>36379619

>>36373823
>Baby-Doll Eyes

Nah that shit's legit early on. It's literally a better Growl as you get priority as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:53:37 No.36377823 Report

Quoted By: >>36377841

>>36377213
It's cutting move, not related to air

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 11:58:58 No.36377841 Report

Quoted By: >>36377853

>>36377823
"Razor Wind" is a clumsy localization of kamaitachi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamaitachi

It's meant to be a gust of wind that causes cuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 12:02:04 No.36377853 Report

Quoted By: >>36383896

>>36377841
No, it's meant to be invisible weasel cutting through the air with sickle-like claw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 12:11:46 No.36377881 Report

Quoted By: >>36377920 >>36377994 >>36378122 >>36379650 >>36379836

Has anyone ever used odor sleuth? Has anyone been in a situation so desperate that they had to resort to that move to damage ghosts with their normal type?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 12:22:12 No.36377920 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377881
Donphan used to do have it as option many gens ago, like other spinners used to run Foresight the same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 12:47:13 No.36377994 Report

Quoted By: >>36378005

>>36377881
In-game? Mono-normal runs have required me to use it or foresight at some point, yes.

Competitively? everybody would just use a scrappy mon. Or switch out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 12:53:25 No.36378005 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377994
>In-game? Mono-normal runs have required me to use it or foresight at some point, yes.

I would still prefer to use Crunch and Shadow Balls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:11:41 No.36378068 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377817
Ayy I was having some problems dealing with some Kommo-o's since the Earthquake/Thunder Punch/Poison Jab mindgames were hard for me to guess, but this is perfect

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:22:38 No.36378122 Report

Quoted By: >>36378131 >>36378132

>>36377881
on extreme speed/ belly drum linoone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:24:49 No.36378131 Report

Quoted By: >>36378139

>>36378122
Shadow Claw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:25:05 No.36378132 Report

Quoted By: >>36378139 >>36378140

>>36378122
Don't do that Anon. There's Shadow Ball pre-gen 4 and Shadow Claw post gen-4 and both are TMs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:27:21 No.36378139 Report

Quoted By: >>36378144 >>36378146 >>36379256 >>36384746

>>36378131
>>36378132
what if I want to hit a normal type pokemon affected by trick or treat?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:27:33 No.36378140 Report

Quoted By: >>36378146

>>36378132
Good luck getting a hit on fast ghost types with Linoone. With OS you can get them on the switch then EE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:29:06 No.36378144 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378139
Then you stop sniping showderp battles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 13:30:09 No.36378146 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378140
>taking two turns of setup on something frail and removing a coverage option for an incredibly niche scenario
Don't do that Anon.
>>36378139
thief lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 15:35:43 No.36379005 Report

Quoted By: >>36379294

Was Mist ever used unironically?
Like even ironically, some examples?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:19:22 No.36379256 Report

Quoted By: >>36379263

>>36378139
Why would you trick or treated someone's Pokemon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:20:11 No.36379263 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379256
Because fuck Curselax

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:26:02 No.36379294 Report

Quoted By: >>36379304 >>36379316

>>36379005
Mist is one of those moves that really needs to be an autoability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:27:34 No.36379304 Report

Quoted By: >>36379517

>>36379294
You mean White Smoke/Clear Body?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:28:48 No.36379316 Report

Quoted By: >>36379517

>>36379294
>universal clear body/hyper cutter/white smoke
How about no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:31:20 No.36379332 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377027
Nidos didn't learn Double Kick until obscenely high levels (40s-50s) due to probably a programming oversight in RGB
>>36377060
Probably because of its critical chance and the fact that every Machop in the game spammed it; if it got STAB on criticals it would kill everything too quickly.
Probably also the reason Gust is normal, so that basic bitch Pidgeys don't get 2-4x damage against Bulbasaur and early Bugs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 16:57:59 No.36379517 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379304
Mist sticks around for the whole team for 5 turns.

>>36379316
>that lasts 5 turns
All it does is give more protection from Lando and cancerous web teams. Wow fucking broken!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 17:06:36 No.36379557 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373710
no but i certainly wouldn't mind if they had activator abilities

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 17:20:05 No.36379619 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377818
I once ran a furfrou with that and cotton guard to screw with my friends physical mons. I threw in thunder wave and headbutts for parafusion hax too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 17:25:17 No.36379650 Report

Quoted By: >>36379783

>>36377881
>Foresight and Odor Sleuth get Magic Bounced
Stupid fucking Jewel Goblin

Stupid fucking Hackmons Giratina

It'll save your ass against Normalize Skill Swap Gengar in doubles though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 17:47:12 No.36379783 Report

Quoted By:

>>36379650
That's why I love Mold Breaker.
Goblin can't do shit when MB Taunt crashes through its Magic Bounce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 17:56:43 No.36379836 Report

Quoted By: >>36381258

>>36377881
>foresight is a move learned by mudkip's line

Swear to god that thing has a horrendous learnset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 18:05:33 No.36379899 Report

Quoted By: >>36380142 >>36380170

>>36377255
What non ground types learn it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 18:44:16 No.36380142 Report

Quoted By: >>36380170

>>36379899
Krabby and Pyukumuku

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 18:45:00 No.36380150 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373695
Brooklyn to Staten Island.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 18:47:18 No.36380170 Report

Quoted By: >>36380202

>>36379899
>>36380142
And Clamperl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 18:50:51 No.36380202 Report

Quoted By: >>36380316

>>36380170
Also Zigagoon, Anorith and Relicanth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:05:36 No.36380316 Report

Quoted By:

>>36380202
Squirtle, Psyduck, Slowpoke, Goldeen, Totodile, Corsola, Mantine, Stantler, Treecko, Surskit, Plusle, Corphish, Feebas, Luvdisc, Piplup, Bidoof, Buneary, Panpour, Ducklett, Froakie and Hawlucha can too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:07:42 No.36380329 Report

Quoted By:

>>36373711
You mean Bestow
Simple Beam has uses in Doubles. Especially if you use it on mons like Archeops, Regigigas, or Slaking

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:33:38 No.36380480 Report

Quoted By: >>36380718

>>36375556
>I play Pokemon Reborn
My condolences.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:41:56 No.36380548 Report

Quoted By: >>36380567 >>36380572 >>36380587

>>36375909
>50%

WHEN THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:44:32 No.36380567 Report

Quoted By: >>36380597

>>36380548
gen VII, in an attempt to fix VGC, smeargle not being able to learn it was enough since Darkrai isn't worth the restricted slot

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:45:12 No.36380572 Report

Quoted By:

>>36380548
Gen 7.
SM neutered Darkrai completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:46:40 No.36380587 Report

Quoted By: >>36383915 >>36384155

>>36380548
game freak balance logic
same way they have overbalanced the swagger twave foul play prankster cancer, actually nerfed all of these status conditions and abilities lel
but seriously who keeps eating grayons at game freak?
>make chatter not able to be sketched
>code so that hoopa's signature moves can be only used my hoopa forms
>instead of a next gen fix for darkrai's dark void the same way if hoopa's locked signature attacks the edgelord mon can now rely on hypnosis more than on dark void
simply ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:48:07 No.36380597 Report

Quoted By: >>36380604

>>36380567
they unironically thought terrains alone were not enough to rape status spam

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 19:49:02 No.36380604 Report

Quoted By:

>>36380597
well statuses outside of dark void are fine

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 20:07:05 No.36380718 Report

Quoted By: >>36380739

>>36380480
Hey, the story and characters may be dog shit, but the gameplay is fun as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 20:10:24 No.36380739 Report

Quoted By: >>36380817

>>36380718
>but the gameplay is fun as fuck.
It's contrived bullshit is what it is. There are better ways to torture yourself, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 20:15:01 No.36380762 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374060
You would before the third gym. It's useful during the early game, to poison things you want to poison. Either to make them easier to catch, or to whittle away their health because you don't have any other effective moves. This really isn't hard to understand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 20:21:27 No.36380817 Report

Quoted By: >>36380986

>>36380739
>game isn't press a to win
>therefore it's contrived bullshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 20:39:56 No.36380986 Report

Quoted By: >>36383139

>>36380817
How far into it are you, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 21:08:56 No.36381202 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376701
>Gengar immediately becomes an Uber staple

If it EVER gets one turn of setup, and you don't have a faster psychic or dark type move, you just instantly lose the match because of a substitute sweep, or 100% coverage sweep.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 21:18:40 No.36381258 Report

Quoted By: >>36381284

>>36379836
>Learns STAB Earthquake

Incorrect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 21:22:38 No.36381284 Report

Quoted By: >>36381358

>>36381258
>natural EQ but it's at like level 50 or something

Yeah it might have that, but what's it got before then? Mud Sport? Foresight? Fucking BIDE? Swampert's a pokemon you dump a load of TM's on since its learnset sucks for a long time, or at least it did in gen 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 21:35:53 No.36381358 Report

Quoted By:

>>36381284
52

>Not loving Swampert so much you stick it out for Waterfall and Earthquake

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 Aug 2018 21:45:50 No.36381421 Report

Quoted By: >>36383028

>>36376865
>hitmonchan's signature move
>never made fighting type

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:01:11 No.36382984 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377131
One attacking move has to be the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:13:14 No.36383028 Report

Quoted By:

>>36381421
The thing that upsets me the most is how it has a weird 18BP and a shit acc too.
No side effects or gimmicks, just a worse Double Slap.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:15:22 No.36383045 Report

Quoted By: >>36384762

Cotton Spore. It just lowers speed and half of the things that learn it can just paralyze the enemy outright instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 02:31:30 No.36383139 Report

Quoted By:

>>36380986
Done with the latest content, filling out my dex now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 04:27:28 No.36383693 Report

Quoted By:

>>36375939
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 05:22:11 No.36383883 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377089
triple kick could become so useful if it simply got a +5 buff to its power

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 05:26:17 No.36383896 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377853
>make the move that has a relation to an invisible weasle a special move
>most of the Pokemon that can even learn the move have a better attack stat.
I think Game Freak made the move as a joke

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 05:32:47 No.36383915 Report

Quoted By: >>36384155

>>36380587
When Game Freak nerfs something, they tend to go overboard with it in most situations (though in other cases, they thought giving fairy-type a bug resist would stop U-Turn)..
Expect Intimidate to get gutted in Gen 8.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:17:21 No.36384065 Report

Quoted By: >>36384107 >>36384114 >>36384197

>>36373823
Yeah there was a noticeable quality drop in new moves from gen 6 on. Really felt like their creativity stagnated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:31:11 No.36384107 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384065
God forbid they made Hold Back some sort of type that wasn't Normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:33:18 No.36384114 Report

Quoted By: >>36384134 >>36384171

>>36384065
It's just False Swipe for Pokemon where it doesn't make sense for them to be able to use False Swipe. Same with Leafage, it's just (almost) a Vine Whip clone for Pokemon that shouldn't be able to use Vine Whip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:39:16 No.36384134 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384114
That'd be all well and good if it wasn't event only. What's GF's obsession with events? They fucking suck

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:46:17 No.36384155 Report

Quoted By: >>36384770

>>36380587
>>36383915
Don't forget about this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 06:51:49 No.36384171 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384114
False Swipe already had all the distribution it needed though. No need to remake it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 07:00:18 No.36384197 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384065
it's the friendly return version of what false swipe is to frustration

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:18:46 No.36384746 Report

Quoted By:

>>36378139
drink bleach

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:24:42 No.36384762 Report

Quoted By:

>>36383045
Cotton spore work on 2 mons in doubles.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:27:23 No.36384770 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384155
This and psychic terrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:30:40 No.36384777 Report

Quoted By:

Constrict. Who even uses this on purpose?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:33:14 No.36384784 Report

Quoted By: >>36384789 >>36384790 >>36384794

Has anybody ever used Bide for anything that wasn't killing a shiny Giratina?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:34:44 No.36384789 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384784
It's fun ingame because the AI is retarded enough to fall for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:36:55 No.36384790 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384784
In my White 2 nuzlocke I used bide on Patrat for a bit, he's sitting on the bench now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:38:11 No.36384794 Report

Quoted By: >>36384797

>>36384784
I caught a kricketot in gen 4 and bide's its only move till it evolves, I got a couple wins with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:40:40 No.36384797 Report

Quoted By: >>36384804

>>36384794
>I caught a kricketot in gen 4 and bide's its only move till it evolves
That's when you just box it and use Budew instead. What was wrong with giving it at least Leech Life, anyways?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 10:45:39 No.36384804 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384797
Fun gimmick. Bide allows you to beat Pokemon way above your level, so it's a perfectly okay ingame move. Anything that's strong enough to survive two of your strongest attacks, but not so strong it will kill you in two hits, will usually die from Bide.

Yeah, it's shit in multiplayer because it only works if the opponent is retarded, but that's besides the point. Lots of moves are trash in multiplayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 11:35:10 No.36384896 Report

Quoted By: >>36384992 >>36385158

Incinerate.
>burns berries in a usually berryless meta
>burns gems in a literally gemless meta
>the latter was added when gems were mostly gone, minus the Normal Gem
>BP went from 30 to 60
>moves like Ember and Flame Burst still outclass it for BP and usability and accessibility

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 11:57:47 No.36384949 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374060
>>36374130

They're NPC moves, don't tell me you never got annoyed because poison gas/powder poisoned your pokémon ingame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 11:59:19 No.36384953 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374512
You get it pretty early in some pokémon movesets, for a short period of time it deals more damage than your current STAB, too bad the accuracy sucks.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 12:06:57 No.36384972 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377131
They even nerfed it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 12:13:20 No.36384992 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384896
If it did double damage when burning a berry it would be actually good, VGC pokémon like to have those 50% HP berries and it's relatively easy but not obvious to understand who carries them.
Since Knockoff does 50% more damage but gets rid of any item, I think it'd be a good variant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 13:21:31 No.36385158 Report

Quoted By:

>>36384896
This is bullshit, Thundurus is a good example where a literally who move found good legit use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 13:39:08 No.36385223 Report

Quoted By:

>>36376593
>he has never used the amphros +klingklangklong mega boosting combo to wreck in doubles

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 13:42:34 No.36385234 Report

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Barrage and Egg Bomb
Two signature moves that are either not STAB or have no side effects and don't even fit the right offensive stat...Egg Bomb was buffed but still no purpose on Chansey's family or Exeggutor, no retype either or special retcon.
Barrage is just...why does it even exist, looks like some Bullet Seed prototype from Gen 1, like hey Fury Attack, Fury Swipes, Double Slap and Comet Punch were not enough, let's add another one for Exeggcute because it has no limbs.

Said this Egg Bomb has only shined during Gen 2 thanks to the comfy animations and sound effects.

Also buff Astonish to 60-70BP when?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 13:59:06 No.36385304 Report

Quoted By: >>36385417

>>36377095
>friendship ended with Rayquaza

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:22:59 No.36385417 Report

Quoted By:

>>36385304
She's sad now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:26:35 No.36385430 Report

Quoted By:

>>36374130
poison gas has 90% accuracy now

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:42:38 No.36385490 Report

Quoted By: >>36385501 >>36385523

i think 95% of people don't even remember this as a move..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:44:00 No.36385501 Report

Quoted By:

>>36385490
doesn't literally every cottonee/petilil have that move in poni island?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:48:06 No.36385523 Report

Quoted By: >>36385527 >>36386464

>>36385490
just searched it, it apparently gives the opponent the insomnia ability, which goes away if it switches out
literally what the fuck is the point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:50:46 No.36385527 Report

Quoted By:

>>36385523

you cant even use it in doubles it to remove truant

apparently it still works with slow start but that's an extreme gimmick at best for vgcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 14:56:04 No.36385548 Report

Quoted By:

>>36377138
>>36377144

constrict doesn't even trap you lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 17:25:54 No.36386464 Report

Quoted By:

>>36385523
L * O * R * E

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 19:50:52 No.36387576 Report

Quoted By: >>36388361

>>36373704
I always thought it weird that the localizers straight up named these moves after pee and scat fetishes and everyone at TPCie were okay with it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 25 Aug 2018 21:29:13 No.36388361 Report

Quoted By:

>>36387576
Underrated

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