>>36566326>Dark Pulse is redundant with Hydro Pumpit's the weaker stab, and you obviously click hydro pump in the absence of water resists, but no it's not redundant. the point is that they'll switch in a water resist, so you hit it with full power dark pulse unless it's one of ~4 somewhat common pokemon that resist your stab combination (one of those being your mirror). if ash-gren had weaker stats, or needed to hit shit super effectively to do damage, then yeah water/dark wouldn't be great. but again, 120 bp from ash-gren is more than enough.
off the top of my head only water/fairy, water/dragon, and maybe water/psychic would be significantly better for ash-gren. water/dark is fine for it.
>It wouldn't be used if Greninja had access to Knock Offspecs might run both (knock to hit chansey/av users, even then you're foregoing u-turn or spikes) but certainly wants dark pulse more. mixed sets might be a thing but you're splitting EVs then, something worse on ash-gren when you consider it needs to kill something before getting its 145/153 offenses
really knock off would be more of a boon for regular greninja
>which reiterates the point that the moves available really dictate how powerful your type is offensivelysure, all i'm saying is that ash-gren is a bad example of this