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>>36640175
- Localization isn't canon.
- Original script had Oak asking Green if he's going to take Bulbasaur because it's colored green.
- Leaf isn't canon (might happen after her popularity in Smash if Gamefreak had the balls and will to care about her)
- Red got the green starter in every other media except Zensho

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 16:56:35 No.36640193 Report

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>>36640175
>Rival is called RED and BLUE
What?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 16:59:54 No.36640210 Report

Quoted By: >>36640238

>>36640187
Is it because bulba is first on the pokedex? I really would prefer to see Kris over Leaf but that's not gonna happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:03:06 No.36640227 Report

Quoted By: >>36641499

>>36640187
Leaf ain't happening unless they remake Kanto a THIRD time but keep it more in line with FRLG and make her the third wheel rather than outright not exist at all unless chosen as the player.
As is, because of FRLG's circumstances, she can't exist because that'd mean passing up on Red, the omniversally canon protagonist thanks to GSC.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:03:50 No.36640233 Report

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>>36640152
BTFO as usual

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:04:25 No.36640238 Report

Quoted By: >>36640252

>>36640210
Maybe, but it's most likely becaues of the starters personalities.

Bulbasaur looks the friendliest of the three, so it looks the best for a protaganist, and it's calm and determined like Red.

While Charizard looks like an antagonists (dragons were most of the time are bad guys in RPGs) and it's cocky and arrogant just like Green in personality.

Blastoise looks like a second enemy, which fits as a 2nd rival.

but you can see that after canceling the girl character, this setup got messed up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:07:15 No.36640252 Report

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>>36640238
Never thought of it that way! Now I wonder what it would be like if gen 1 had two rivals with the addition of a girl would she also be an asshole?

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:10:50 No.36640276 Report

Quoted By: >>36640446 >>36646278

>>36640152
They didn't even flinch because they know who the best Kanto starter is.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:17:17 No.36640317 Report

Quoted By: >>36640416 >>36640448 >>36642558 >>36646223

Why does TPC hates Bulbasaur again?
>No international Green release
>No movie roles
>No appearence at all in Origins and PMD
>Not in Conquest
>Not in Pokken with Char and Blastoise
>Only 2 seconds screentime in Generations
>shittiest mega design
>Cucked in everyway and everywhere during Gen6 it barely had a spotlight in anything that its great mega could have been a lot more popular in VGC if it wasn't an abysmal design.

Why did they even create Bulbasaur if they don't like it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:27:23 No.36640416 Report

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>>36640317
Mega Venusaur, and even regular Venusaur, has leagues more use in the actual games over either version of Blastoise. Also I imagine it came down to it just being difficult to animate as well compared to the other two that are standing upright most of the time in the animes. Bulbasaur was seen decently in the Kanto movies, all in all it didn't really get shafted as much as you think. Would've been nice if they didn't choose to shill mega charizards for origins and kept Red true to the original with Bulbasaur, but I understand the marketing choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:30:27 No.36640446 Report

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>>36640276
>>36640416
This Bulbabros don't need shilling we already know who's the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:30:32 No.36640448 Report

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>>36640317
The problem isnt bulbasaur, its venusaur who's completely unappealing. It's an ugly fat dinotoad carrying a gay pink flower.

Charizard spits fire
Blastoise has water cannons
Venusaur... shoots a beam of plant energy out of its gay flower?!

Plants in general are a lame power, its usually girls who get plant magic, except venusaur doesnt even appeal to girls because its so fat and non-cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:34:58 No.36640485 Report

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>>36640448
if you think venusaur isn't qt you're fucking drooling

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:35:06 No.36640486 Report

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>>36640448
And yet people liked Red's Venusaur a lot in the manga.
and considering Venusaur has a decent usage in competitive scene also disproves your theory.

Venusaur isn't popular because of its design, Venusaur isn't popular because it was never promoted, advertised or been properly represented like the other two.
Hype and shilling help, Charizard would have been long forgotten if it wasn't constantly shoved in everyone's throat (look at how Blastoise went down in popularity a lot over the years).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:36:38 No.36640503 Report

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>>36640448
You're right compared to Blastoise and Charizard Venusaur is ugly af

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:37:26 No.36640515 Report

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>>36640152
They didn't give a fuck because they're not autistic faggots like most other starter fans.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:38:41 No.36640536 Report

Quoted By: >>36640575 >>36640592

Haha good I made Fushigibana ugly because it's too hard for me to draw.
I hope people keep hating Fushigibana (laughs)

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:43:11 No.36640575 Report

Quoted By: >>36640595 >>36641076 >>36641499

>>36640448
this, bulbasaur is amazing but venusaur its not nearly as badass and dynamic as the other two

>>36640485
delusion

>>36640536
yeah, even sugimori says venusaur is his least favorite pokemon design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:44:45 No.36640590 Report

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>>36640448
have it use sludge bomb then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:44:52 No.36640592 Report

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>>36640536
Someday this motherfucker will retire or die and we will get (hopefully) a better artist who doesn't shit on a Pokemon because he find it hard to draw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:45:22 No.36640595 Report

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>>36640575
Maybe if the eyes were different? Because ivysaur looks majestic and is one of my favorite mid evolutions of any starter

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:47:54 No.36640627 Report

Quoted By: >>36640662 >>36640831

>>36640595
No, the problem is the artist himself having troubles drawing Venusaur as he himself stating that. That's why he hates Venusaur, he find it too hard even though it's his own creation and design.
Ken is pretty autistic when it comes to designs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:51:37 No.36640657 Report

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Reminder to be grateful for what you have, this was the original venusaur concept

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:52:35 No.36640662 Report

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>>36640627
But Venasaur looks ugly in all of those

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:55:00 No.36640682 Report

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>>36640152
How they've always acted ever since the original games came out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:59:33 No.36640721 Report

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oh look they did it once again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 17:59:40 No.36640724 Report

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>>36640486
Charizard is shilled BECAUSE it's so popular, kiddo.

Also

>Implying Blastoise is unpopular

Blastoise and Charizard blow Venusaur the fuck out in every popularity poll. In that most recent Japan one with thousands of voters, all first stage and last stage Kanto starters made the list EXCEPT Venushit. No one likes that ugly fatass frog, get over it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:02:19 No.36640755 Report

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>>36640152
they wanted red to suffer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:03:52 No.36640771 Report

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>>36640662
I think Venusaur is a beautiful creature, warts and all.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:06:05 No.36640787 Report

Quoted By: >>36640819 >>36640880

>>36640724
Source on the poll, kiddo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:08:07 No.36640819 Report

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>>36640724
>>36640787
Also the most recent poll I'm aware of (That Masuda posted on twitter) had Bulbasaur at #9 most popular pokemon of the original 151 in Japan.
While it's not Venusaur, Bulbasaur at least has a quite popularity in Japan, as proved on how much merchs it gets every while, much more than any of Suirtle line members.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:09:34 No.36640831 Report

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>>36640627
Nah, it still doesnt look that appealing.

>>36640595
Sure the eyes could use some work but its not just that. Venusaur could still be bulky(blastoise is too) but it needed to feel less fat.

Here's a quick edit that I think is an improvement but then again no matter how you look at it, plants(specially flowers) are not very imposing. Torterra works a lot better with the tree.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:11:27 No.36640855 Report

Quoted By: >>36640876 >>36640914 >>36641420

Torterra was here, Venusaur is a loser.

This is how you do it right folks

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:13:54 No.36640876 Report

Quoted By: >>36640905 >>36641499

>>36640855
>Always voted less than Venusaur everywhere
>Venusaur was always viable in meta, unlike Torterra
>Torterra is the slowest starter ever
>and 4x weak to Ice
You mean This is how you try to rip off a perfect starter but fail horribly

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:14:02 No.36640880 Report

Quoted By: >>36640911 >>36640929 >>36641071

>>36640787
>>36572081

Right here.

>Bulbasaur and not Venusaur
Congrats on shooting yourself in the foot

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:17:55 No.36640905 Report

Quoted By: >>36641294

>>36640876
>using gameplay as an argument in a thread about design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:18:04 No.36640908 Report

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>>36640831
That looks alot better actually

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:18:13 No.36640911 Report

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>>36640880
Makes sense. Bulbasaur is much cuter than Venusaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:18:34 No.36640914 Report

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>>36640855
literally whomst

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:19:49 No.36640926 Report

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>>36640831
cursed image

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:20:01 No.36640929 Report

Quoted By: >>36640951 >>36640958

>>36640880
Eh, if they love Bulbasaur that much it doesn't mean they hate Venusaur, they just like the baby "cute" form more, still doesn't prove your point that everybody hate Venusaur.

Also
>Bulbasaur voted much more than Blastoise
>but less that Squirtle
Japan loves cute stuff, that's why shitty Pokemon like Pikachu and Eevee are that popular.

Nice try though. Bulbasaur fans still love Venusaur even if less than Bulbasaur.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:22:52 No.36640951 Report

Quoted By: >>36641042

>>36640929
If people gave a shit about Venusaur maybe he'd actually have gotten some votes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:23:28 No.36640958 Report

Quoted By: >>36641499

>>36640831
>that pic
amazing, goddammit gamefreak

>>36640929
>Bulbasaur fans still love Venusaur even if less than Bulbasaur.
Im a bulbasaur(and ivysaur) fan and I dislike venusaur. Dont get me wrong, I want to like it, I really do, but its... just... not... great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:30:39 No.36641042 Report

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>>36640951
>Grovyle is more popular than Sceptile
>Torchic is more popular than Blaziken
>Mudkip is more popular than Swampert
>Popplio and Rowlet are more popular than the rest of their line.
>Braixen is more popular than Dephox
etc..

what's your point exactly? having one form more popular than its final form doesn't mean they hate it or they don't care about it.

heck according to that poll
>Blastoise has 33 vote
>Squirtle has 85
now tell me that most people don't give a shit about Blastoise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:34:48 No.36641071 Report

Quoted By: >>36641322

>>36640880
Most of the votes went to Pikachu, Eevee (LGPE) and the latest movie stars.
That poll shouldn't be relevant for anything because children and casuals will vote whatever the latest cool thing they saw during that poll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:35:26 No.36641076 Report

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>>36640575
I like Venusaur. I would've kept the spots from its first two evos and Ivysaur's angry eyes, though.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:44:06 No.36641152 Report

Quoted By: >>36641179 >>36641285

Here's your Venusaur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:47:31 No.36641179 Report

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>>36640831
yes

>>36641152
no

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 18:59:38 No.36641285 Report

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>>36641152

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:00:42 No.36641294 Report

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>>36640905
>its stats don't count!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:05:26 No.36641322 Report

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>>36641071
The poll is relevant because it's indicative of what's popular right now. The fact that you don't like what most people like or think they like those things for stupid reasons is irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:16:38 No.36641420 Report

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>>36640855
>phanpy used ice shard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:22:19 No.36641499 Report

Quoted By: >>36641696 >>36641748

>>36640227
Can't they find ways to fit her into the canon without removing Red's place as the main protagonist

>>36640958
How tf do you want to like a pokemon but not? Is this just some excuse to tell people thatyou gave it a chance

>>36640575
>yeah, even sugimori says venusaur is his least favorite pokemon design
I'm pretty sure it's because Venusaur was too hard to draw rather than "he didn't like it"

>>36640876
>Two completely different design origins
>It's a ripoff!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:38:55 No.36641696 Report

Quoted By: >>36642360

>>36641499
>reptile with a plant growing on its back
>grass
>completely different design

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:43:10 No.36641748 Report

Quoted By: >>36642147 >>36642360

>>36641499
>I'm pretty sure it's because Venusaur was too hard to draw rather than "he didn't like it"
more like he didnt like to draw it because of how busy it is, and he is right. The leaves are a huge mess on top of a non dynamic hard to pose body, not to mention it suffers to a lesser degree from the vileplume problem where they need to bend the perspective and fuck with the flowertop orientation to make it look good from different angles.

>>36641499
>How tf do you want to like a pokemon but not?
huh really? when youre a fan of the overall product(in this case the bulba evo line or even the pokemon franchise as a whole) you try to see past specific flaws and tell yourself they are good rather than coming to terms with the fact you dont like certain aspects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:52:49 No.36641849 Report

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>>36640152
I don't really mind. Staff says Venusaur is hard to draw and animate and in comparision you can't do a lot than with let's say, Charizard so understandable.
It was still disappointing tho because we have seen Charizard in motion a hundred times tho. You think they could have gone for more with this being an OVA, but I guess Charizard being marketable plays a role.

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:57:28 No.36641898 Report

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I'll just leave this here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 20:22:41 No.36642147 Report

Quoted By: >>36642189

>>36641748
Ken Sugimori could change the design to be simpler if he wasn't retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 20:26:35 No.36642189 Report

Quoted By: >>36642348

>>36642147
>could change the design
not substantially, all the design changes that happened throughout the years have been incredibly subtle, consistency is very important. actually altering designs is a slippery slope and opens the floodgates to an incoherent mess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 20:40:39 No.36642348 Report

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>>36642189
Why would he continue with a design that he find the hardest in the entire series to draw?

Ken could give Venusaur to Nishida or someone else to handle or he could alternate the design to make it less bloated and complex.

Bib

Bib Thu 27 Sep 2018 20:42:06 No.36642360 Report

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>>36641696
Venusaur was confirmed to be based on a frog which is not a reptile unlike Torterra who is a turtle. Torterra also has stones on its shell to show that there's more to it than just a plant, especially when the pokedex says that other pokemon live on it, and is based on the world turtles who are said to carry worlds on its shell, further supporting this.

>>36641748
How exactly do you give it a chance? Doypu look at multiple pictures or something

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:01:25 No.36642558 Report

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>>36640317
Jokes on them we got the best Pokemon Trainer Pokemon

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:04:20 No.36642595 Report

Quoted By: >>36642607 >>36642633 >>36642650 >>36644901

>>36640831
Not trying to toot my own horn but the more I look at it the more I like it and wish it was real

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:05:42 No.36642607 Report

Quoted By: >>36642662

>>36642595
Isn't this the "It just gets bigger" syndrome most autists screech about?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:09:27 No.36642633 Report

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>>36642595
>put Venusaur’s plant on an ivysaur
>proceed to self fellate

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:11:19 No.36642650 Report

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>>36642595
I unironically prefer Venusaur to Ivysaur with a flower on its back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 21:12:31 No.36642662 Report

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>>36642607
If anything you will find people saying charizard should have carried over charmeleons red color and blastoise continuing the feathers motif

this is not a poliwhirl/wrath situation, clearly the motif of the evolution line is the flower cycle and that's where the progression focuses

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 22:17:39 No.36643360 Report

Quoted By: >>36643704 >>36644980

bulbasaur > charmander > squirtle
ivysaur > charameleon > wartortle
blastoise > charizard > venusaur

there I said it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 22:49:42 No.36643704 Report

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>>36643360
Charmander is cute but Charmeleon is ugly and Charizard is too bland and generic.

Ivysaur and Wartortle are equally flawless designs.

Blastoise is the coolest final form while Venusaur is the most unique and original. again Charizard is bland and boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 27 Sep 2018 23:18:31 No.36644035 Report

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I used to hate venusaur. Now it's my favorite pokemon. I went through having each stage be my favorite as I grew order. Maybe in my deathbed the mega will be my favorite. I don't dislike the mega as much as I once did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 00:34:22 No.36644901 Report

Quoted By: >>36644968

>>36642595
the eyes really make a huge difference

the real venusaur is just not palatable

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 00:42:28 No.36644968 Report

Quoted By: >>36644981

>>36644901
Venusaur just isn’t Venusaur without the crackhead eyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 00:44:57 No.36644980 Report

Quoted By: >>36645043

>>36643360
>Blastoise is better than charizard and venasaur
Contrarianism at it's finest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 00:45:21 No.36644981 Report

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>>36644968
what were they thingken

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 00:53:48 No.36645043 Report

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>>36644980
dont be silly. venusaur looks like ass compared to this two. im not a big charizard fan but its still leagues beyond the toad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 03:40:22 No.36646091 Report

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When has the venusaur hate become a meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 03:42:58 No.36646099 Report

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>>36640152
origins was okay, generations is where it's at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 03:45:05 No.36646112 Report

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>>36640175
Blue's name in the Japanese version, the original version, is Green.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 03:45:53 No.36646118 Report

Quoted By: >>36646131

My fave Kanto starter has always been Bulbasaur, why do people hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 03:48:01 No.36646131 Report

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>>36646118
No one hates it. Read the thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 04:00:09 No.36646196 Report

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I like to think fans of Bulbasaur don't blow shit out of proportion like the guys who are obsessed with the Alola starters. It's always good to see Bulbasaur, but it's not a big deal if he's not there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 04:05:01 No.36646223 Report

Quoted By: >>36646507

>>36640317
>No international Green release
Supposedly that was a cultural thing. Something about Red and Green being perceived as opposite colors in Japan, but not in the west.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 04:13:45 No.36646278 Report

Quoted By: >>36646414

>>36640276
Blastoise doesn't need his stone to be viable either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 04:36:23 No.36646414 Report

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>>36646278
Blastoise is nonviable with or without its stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 04:48:58 No.36646507 Report

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>>36646223
Masuda talked about it, the games were supposed to give this peaceful feeling about nature elements because red/fire represent purification and cleansing and green&leaf represents peace. Western market wanted conflict and a fierce rivarly or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 05:48:51 No.36646777 Report

Quoted By: >>36647276

The real question is why the protagonist is named red and the rival green.

if Red's canon starter is bulbasaur(green), Green's pokemon is charmander(red)

if Red's canon starter is charmander(red), Green's pokemon is squirtle(blue)

it just doesnt fit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 05:54:37 No.36646804 Report

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>>36640448
>shooting concentrated beams of sunlight is not the tightest shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 06:04:26 No.36646842 Report

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>Venusaur
>cucked

Please, if anything it is immensely popular because it isn't shilled nearly as much as Blastoise or Charizard. And consider Blastoise would be as obscure as Torterra if it didn't have the massive marketing behind it. Blastoise has sucked ass in the games and has an ugly Mega to boot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 06:14:59 No.36646908 Report

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>>36640448
>gay pink flower
Guess Pokémon Trainers have fragile masculinity too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 07:59:19 No.36647276 Report

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>>36646777
Because they weren't named Red and Blue/Green in Gen1.

They were named Satoshi and Shigeru (idk what was the girl supposed to be named)

Also Red and Green getting the opposite of their color is more interesting.

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Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 08:22:47 No.36647336 Report

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>>36640448
>plants
>lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 08:43:25 No.36647399 Report

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>>36640152
>The protagonist is named Red, he should choose Charmander
>Rival is named Green, he should choose Bulbasaur
>Impossible scenario in games

They fucked up really

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 13:28:37 No.36648119 Report

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Whoever created this design should be fired. How dare they disrespect a classic this badly

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 28 Sep 2018 20:21:30 No.36650262 Report

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I want to fuck a female venusaur

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