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Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 18:58:03 No.36746478 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36746575 >>36746697 >>36746731 >>36746868 >>36747002 >>36748004 >>36749393 >>36750013 >>36750172 >>36750479 >>36750537 >>36752675 >>36754280

>pokemon can only repeat their name
>N claims he can hear their voice
What the fuck was his damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:05:19 No.36746508 Report

Quoted By: >>36746548

>what is Telepathy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:12:00 No.36746548 Report

Quoted By: >>36746574 >>36746673

>>36746508
>never once is it stated N has telepathy
Try again

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:13:04 No.36746554 Report

Quoted By: >>36749061

It's a tonal language.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:14:43 No.36746558 Report

Quoted By: >>36748293 >>36751368

I do not care for Gen V's sprites. Everything is so jagged.
Gen IV is the peak of Pokemon's in game handheld artwork

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:16:01 No.36746561 Report

Quoted By: >>36746592

schizophrenia

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:16:45 No.36746564 Report

Quoted By: >>36749924 >>36753570

>pokemon can only repeat their name
then why don't any pokemon bar Pikachu say their name in-game :^)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:17:55 No.36746574 Report

Quoted By: >>36746668

>>36746548
Why does it need to be stated? If he is talking to Pokémon without a known sense that is Telepathy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:18:10 No.36746575 Report

Quoted By: >>36749924 >>36752368

>>36746478
>pokemon only repeat their name
Fucking animefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:22:25 No.36746592 Report

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>>36746561
>N thinks he is having a deep intricate conversation about morals and ethics with a pokemon in his head when in reality it’s just a patrat repeating it’s name at him

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:39:48 No.36746668 Report

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>>36746574
Who says he is even talking to pokemon at all, it’s never proven.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:40:54 No.36746673 Report

Quoted By: >>36746693

>>36746548
It says over and over that he's hearing the Pokemon's heart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:45:22 No.36746693 Report

Quoted By: >>36746701

>>36746673
That doesn’t mean he’s telepathic, he could just be thinking he is hearing them when in reality he is just delusional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:46:04 No.36746697 Report

Quoted By: >>36746727

>>36746478
The games have them say their names and make animal noises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:47:53 No.36746701 Report

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>>36746693
dude what if pokemon is all fake and the MC is in a coma lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:52:15 No.36746727 Report

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>>36746697
Either way there is no way N could understand what they were saying, unless you think the stupid N is Zoroark theory is real

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 19:54:14 No.36746731 Report

Quoted By: >>36746763

>>36746478
He was raised in isolation and mainly interacted with Pokemon, of course he has terrible social skills

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 20:03:29 No.36746763 Report

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>>36746731
That explains nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 20:10:09 No.36746789 Report

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>He didn't read the manga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 20:13:01 No.36746798 Report

Quoted By: >>36748490

N is clearly on the spectrum. Have you seen his room? Even has a toy train.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 20:33:00 No.36746868 Report

Quoted By: >>36746946

>>36746478
You really think that's strange, and its totally normal that animals have the phonetic capacity to say their name and nothing else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 20:52:54 No.36746946 Report

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>>36746868
That doesn’t make N being able to understand them any less stupid of a concept.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Oct 2018 21:08:16 No.36747002 Report

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>>36746478
He can read the subtitles you brainlet. Pokemon do talk.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 00:19:19 No.36748004 Report

Quoted By: >>36748484

>>36746478
>getting confused by a metaphor in a fucking childrens game

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 01:07:14 No.36748293 Report

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>>36746558
(You)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 01:48:45 No.36748484 Report

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>>36748004
Not gonna listen to your artsy bullshit. N is a shit character and he makes no sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 01:50:22 No.36748490 Report

Quoted By: >>36748952

>>36746798
Whats the correlation between trains and autism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:33:17 No.36748952 Report

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>>36748490
They love the sensory stimulation they get when the trains move around and the noise the trains make. This is why they prefer old school steam powered trains over monorails, the noise the trains make is like ASMR for them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:35:02 No.36748968 Report

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Because N is Zoroark.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:39:51 No.36748996 Report

Quoted By: >>36749043

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:51:07 No.36749043 Report

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>>36748996
Different universe idiot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 03:53:51 No.36749061 Report

Quoted By: >>36749094

>>36746554
This. And unless you're comically autistic, you can do it too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 04:00:29 No.36749094 Report

Quoted By: >>36749248

>>36749061
>He can understand because he's autistic
>He can understand them he's not autistic
Make up your mind.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 04:40:19 No.36749248 Report

Quoted By: >>36749857

>>36749094
While animals can't speak human, they have tones in their voices that can be interpreted by anything that understands social cues.
My guess is they describe N as having the power to hear the voices of Pokemon because it sounds cooler and more mysterious than "N is adept at understanding a Pokemon's tonal language".

Also,
>two different anons say two different things
>"make up your mind"
Autism confirmed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 05:21:59 No.36749393 Report

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>>36746478
He's an autistic hippie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:12:23 No.36749857 Report

Quoted By: >>36750531

>>36749248
‘It sounds cooler” sounds like a terrible excuse. No way they thought about this enough to do that, they want the player to believe he actually can understand Pokemon words.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:16:29 No.36749873 Report

Quoted By: >>36749900

If you played BW2 you'd know that he's a disguised Zoroark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:22:42 No.36749900 Report

Quoted By: >>36750032

>>36749873
Your stupid theory isn’t real and it never will be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:28:09 No.36749924 Report

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>>36746564
>>36746575
SInce gen 4 many overworld pokemon speech bubbles are saying their name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 08:57:29 No.36750013 Report

Quoted By: >>36750058

>>36746478
He reads their body language, tone of voice, and other non-verbal languages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:02:42 No.36750032 Report

Quoted By: >>36750057

>>36749900
It hasn't been debunked and Masuda himself said N's parents are unknown and that he's rumored to be born from pokemon. In the same games there is a backpacker who becomes a Zoroark and a Zoroark that just happens to be guarding the entrance to N's castle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:07:28 No.36750057 Report

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>>36750032
If that theory was real he wouldn't be so fucking retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:07:32 No.36750058 Report

Quoted By: >>36750165

>>36750013
How would a Pokemon convey they don’t want to fight for humans with any of those ways of communication. N says he can communicate with pokemon and this is how he knows they don’t want to work with humans, anyone can pick up on verbal and tonal cues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:30:59 No.36750165 Report

Quoted By: >>36750217

>>36750058
The same way animals in our world convey their fear of humans. Look it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:32:27 No.36750172 Report

Quoted By: >>36752368

>>36746478
Pokemon have real animal sounds in the games, saying their name is anime faggotry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 09:43:50 No.36750217 Report

Quoted By: >>36750286

>>36750165
Yeah because that really correlates with N being able to have full conversations with Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 10:01:17 No.36750286 Report

Quoted By: >>36750297

>>36750217
The pokémon world already has creatures that can't be explained in real world logic (many seemingly having the ability to create matter), ergo there can also be abilites that can't be explained by real world logic. An example would be understanding the repetition of a word and animal noices as if they were a spoken language. If the writers want to introduce understanding the hearts of pokémon as a concept they can. The prerequisites can also be anything they want, from development during childhood to genetical to magical moon beams that strike the earth once every millenia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 10:05:02 No.36750297 Report

Quoted By: >>36750345

>>36750286
That’s all well and good but they never introduced that concept outright and ignoring vague try hard dialogue they just said N can communicate with Pokemon. Which is impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 10:21:44 No.36750345 Report

Quoted By: >>36750449

>>36750297
It being impossible to communicate with pokémon is something you decided, although it's most likely impossible to simply decipher their language. Othervice pokémon professors would've done that ages ago. The fact that psychic powers and aura exists shows that humans in the pokémon world can have abilities that trancend ordinary real world humans. This means N's power could be mystical in nature, something the characters in-universe might find difficult to explain. It's vague, yes, but not impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:03:52 No.36750449 Report

Quoted By: >>36750473 >>36750578 >>36750672

>>36750345
The more you try and and excuse this the more of a Mary Sue N sounds. He has the ability to understand Pokemon, something no one else in the universe is capable of..because he’s N? Because he grew up with Pokemon and not humans, which again makes no sense because that has been done before and they still don’t understand Pokemon. The most stupid fucking special snowflake character ever.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:14:30 No.36750473 Report

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>>36750449

He's not the first though. And mental communication is a thing in a world where you can become psychic just by training.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:16:54 No.36750479 Report

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>>36746478
How do you not realize he's a psychopath? was the serial killer room not enough to tip you off?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:30:30 No.36750531 Report

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>>36749857
no they want the player to believe he's a lunatic

his whole shtick is being a delusional false prophet, how can you not realize this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:32:31 No.36750537 Report

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>>36746478
there are literal whos with psychic powers in this universe, why the fuck do you find this hard to believe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 11:48:28 No.36750578 Report

Quoted By: >>36751267

>>36750449
I don't see how having a special ability automatically makes him a mary sue. Isn't his role in the story to be disproven and beat by the protaganist who, despite having no such power, could form the same kind of connections with even the legendary pokémon? Goes to show that knowing what someone says and actually understanding what they want are completely different things. You also don't necessarily need the former to understand the latter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 12:17:27 No.36750672 Report

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>>36750449
Also, Mewtwo is like the opposite of N. He is a Pokemon who can telepathically communicate with human beings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 12:40:15 No.36750741 Report

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Inconsistent information invalidates the entire thing. All pokemon vocalizations are unknown and it is also unknown if they are a form of communication.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 14:50:14 No.36751267 Report

Quoted By: >>36751282 >>36751284 >>36751743

>>36750578
>With his high IQ, N exceeds humans.
A genius, N excels in math enough to be called a math wizard.
N is quick-witted and has extreme mood swings.
N can see the past and future of people.
According to Masuda, rumors have it that N was born from Pokémon; the parents are unknown.
N loves Pokémon but keeps his distance from humans.
N believes hes perfect.
Always putting Pokémon first is N's ideology.
Given how he is, he has been shunned by humans. In effect, he has a very strong connection with Pokémon.
Yup doesn’t sound like your typical Mary Sue at all. Sure doesn’t sound like a writers pet who has no flaws except people not seeing how perfect he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 14:53:21 No.36751282 Report

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>>36751267
Anon, what you've described is high tier Autism mixed with poor upbringing. Which is N to a T in the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 14:53:45 No.36751284 Report

Quoted By: >>36751361

>>36751267
>who has no flaws
Being autistic, completely wrong about everything and easily manipulated look like flaws to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:06:47 No.36751361 Report

Quoted By: >>36751405

>>36751284
No, the way N is presented in most of the game shows none of that. Even in the end when you are supposed to feel satisfied for proving him wrong he still gets the upper hand. The only thing that ever eludes to his autism in game is his room and even then it’s more of a pity grab then anything. “Look how much N has suffered please be patient he has autism”

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:07:57 No.36751368 Report

Quoted By: >>36752563

>>36746558
Only HGSS. I still have nightmare's about some Platinum sprites, like Quagsire's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:11:27 No.36751380 Report

Quoted By:

I doesn't make a bunch of sense because it's Pokémon in the first place, but basically N could understand a Pokémon with just the tone of their cry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:13:02 No.36751384 Report

Quoted By:

N was a prodigy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:18:36 No.36751405 Report

Quoted By: >>36751420

>>36751361
>No, the way N is presented in most of the game shows none of that
No fucking shit. It's called a plot. Do you want the game to tell you that N's beliefs are wrong and he's being manipulated the exact moment he appears in the game?
Maybe it would satisfy your weird hateboner but that's not how storytelling works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:21:51 No.36751420 Report

Quoted By: >>36751435 >>36751533

>>36751405
You didn’t even try arguing because I’m right. The game paints N as a flawless special snowflake who the player must think is super awesome at all times. He is a terrible character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:26:24 No.36751435 Report

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>>36751420
Actually its because you're mentally ill and there is no point in arguing with someone who is completely delusional

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 15:49:49 No.36751533 Report

Quoted By: >>36751587

>>36751420
I thought he was creepy and weird

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 16:00:05 No.36751587 Report

Quoted By: >>36751605 >>36751745

>>36751533
That's because he is. The game wanted you to also think he was a perfect special snowflake though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 16:03:43 No.36751605 Report

Quoted By: >>36751811

>>36751587
Or maybe you're missing the point by focusing so much on N. Maybe the game wanted you to form an opinion on how people treat Pokemon. That maybe it's wrong to have pokemon fight for our amusement, or perhaps they really do enjoy it and to them it's more like sparring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 16:33:58 No.36751743 Report

Quoted By: >>36752290

>>36751267
I never got the image that N was particularly smart (and when was math ever mentioned or relevant?). When did he show extreme mood swings? When did he succesfully predict the future? Because I don't recall any of that. He has a strong belief that pokémon are miserable when kept by humans. Ghetsis specifically had him raised in a way that cements such a belief. Ergo it makes sense for him to put pokémon above humans. It was never about him being different or being shunned. His upbringing has simply left him stuck in a certain mindset. Then, encountering the protaganist forces him to see how small his worldview has been and to accept that he's not the perfect hero. In conclusion, no. N doesn't feel like a mary sue character. He has flaws and needs the help of others to overcome them and develop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 16:34:13 No.36751745 Report

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>>36751587
"the game wanted you to think"
you're reaching so fucking far my friend.
it's okay to not like a character, relax

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 16:50:27 No.36751811 Report

Quoted By: >>36751949

>>36751605
We aren’t talking about the metaphors behind the game, we are talking about N as a character. Even if we are talking about the way the game gets on its soapbox about Pokemon battles it could of been done so much better. They thought they had something amazing with the whole ‘evil team is an environmentalist group in disguise’ but in reality they never do anything with that besides corny sequences. People call Gen 5 the darkest titles but in reality the darkest thing that happened in them was the grunts kicking that munna and the stolen purloin thing which was more hilarious then sad. And Ghetsis is not the be all end all Pokemon villain, his design is stupid, his plan is stupid, his fans are stupid, the ending where they really try to hype up how uber evil he is was especially stupid. How can you even call Gen 5 games Pokemon games when they were made to be everything Pokemon isn’t.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 17:22:05 No.36751949 Report

Quoted By: >>36753557

>>36751811
they weren't trying to be dark or edgy, just tell a story.
I agree the end game was handled poorly and there was literally no pay off for the entire conversation besides kicking all their asses.
but most people are just happy they even tried to tackle the subject and expand upon it even though nothing came out of it besides acknowledging itself as a series. besides Unova is one of the best regions and most fun games of the entire series, so it gets overlooked how disappointing the subject was handled in the endgame

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 17:44:36 No.36752119 Report

Quoted By: >>36752164 >>36752965

What does the N stand for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 17:50:59 No.36752164 Report

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>>36752119
Natsu.
E.N.D. stands for Etherious Natsu Dragneel.

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:07:57 No.36752290 Report

Quoted By: >>36752356

>>36751743
>and when was math ever mentioned or relevant?
he mentioned formulas and equations at at least a few points in the game (Ferris Wheel scene stands out)

>extreme mood swings
he has a huge hissy fit in Chargestone cave when Juniper talks to him about the Pokedex

>when did he predict the future
I think it's more of a clairvoyance than an actual future sight but based on the way things are going I think he can see the most likely outcome to a situation, like how he was sure he would meet the Legendary Dragon and how the player would too (which he also mentions a few times)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:14:59 No.36752356 Report

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>>36752290
>even Nfags don’t like each other
Wew lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:16:17 No.36752368 Report

Quoted By: >>36752424

>>36746575
>>36750172
>B-But the anime is separate!
Fucking. Kek.

>Yellow version
>Pikachu says his own name in all modern games
>Ash Greninja in the games
>Cap Pikachu
Keep telling yourselves that losers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:23:49 No.36752424 Report

Quoted By: >>36752637

>>36752368
Try talking to basically any non-wild Pokemon in a gen 7 game and tell me if they reply with their name.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:41:09 No.36752563 Report

Quoted By:

>>36751368
Yeah, that was the implication.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:49:24 No.36752637 Report

Quoted By: >>36752661

>>36752424
>SEEEE MEEEEEE
>SOO-OOUND
Yeah, really quality stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:53:13 No.36752661 Report

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>>36752637
So not their names then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 18:55:05 No.36752675 Report

Quoted By: >>36753477 >>36754266 >>36754294

>>36746478
>pokemon can only repeat their name
Explain this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp02wo28Syo&feature=youtu.be&t=87

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 19:36:15 No.36752965 Report

Quoted By: >>36753048

>>36752119

NEEEEEEERD

Ghetsis is a dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 19:50:11 No.36753048 Report

Quoted By: >>36753532

>>36752965
Shut the fuck you stupid Ghetsisfag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 20:57:18 No.36753477 Report

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>>36752675
/thread

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 21:06:58 No.36753532 Report

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>>36753048

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Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 21:12:01 No.36753557 Report

Quoted By: >>36753660

>>36751949
>besides Unova is one of the best regions and most fun games of the entire series
*snap*
oh ho ho! Got a good one!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 21:15:06 No.36753570 Report

Quoted By:

>>36746564
Sadly, since gen 4 and specially gen 7 this rule has been broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 21:26:44 No.36753660 Report

Quoted By:

>>36753557
thanks! glad you agree, this board is usually so toxic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 23:16:56 No.36754266 Report

Quoted By: >>36754294

>>36752675
Yeah so? Nearly all Pokemon can only repeat their name, doesn’t explain how N can understand them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 23:18:40 No.36754280 Report

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>>36746478
>Pokemon can only repeat their name
Anime garbage isn't canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 14 Oct 2018 23:20:38 No.36754294 Report

Quoted By: >>36755207

>>36754266
>>36752675

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 15 Oct 2018 01:51:02 No.36755207 Report

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>>36754294
That explains nothing.

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