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Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:32:39 No.36843350 View View Reply Original Report

itt: "WHAT WERE THEY THINKING" stuff in Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:33:46 No.36843356 Report

Quoted By: >>36847845 >>36848222 >>36849525 >>36849646

>>36843350
Volcarona should've been the pseudo. It was her turn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:33:47 No.36843357 Report

Quoted By: >>36849034

we want every route to have new pokemon to find + we want the player to keep their pokemon in each stage for a decent bit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:34:18 No.36843359 Report

Quoted By: >>36843611 >>36848285

you first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:34:53 No.36843363 Report

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>>36843350
>"People really liked Magikarp's gimmick, so let's do that again but make it in the form of a midgame egg you can only find on a route you never have to go to!"
>"Fuck it, who cares? It's not like anyone except autists have a Fully Evolved Psuedo Legend before the League anyway."

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Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:35:29 No.36843366 Report

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>>36843350
>Deino gets 50 levels
>Based Zweilous only gets 14

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:35:58 No.36843370 Report

Quoted By: >>36843579 >>36845004 >>36848932

>>36843350
This is part of why I don't like Gen 5. All the nicer-looking Pokemon evolve at such high levels, which just makes it a chore. You end up stuck with the uglier Pokemon. B2W2 had to offer some remedy in the form of early Braviary and early Volcarona but the damage done by these mons is permanent since it's not like they're going to change the levels they evolve at in general.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:40:50 No.36843398 Report

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>>36843350
this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:42:26 No.36843404 Report

Quoted By: >>36843407

unova level curve
should've been edited every generation past 5, but this is the same Game Freak that has Leafeon not use the leaf stone and Glaceon not use the ice stone

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:43:22 No.36843407 Report

Quoted By: >>36843562 >>36849051

>>36843404
GameFreak doesn't retcon evolutions unless the method becomes legitimately impossible, in which case they'll add an alternate method alongside the original like with Milotic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:49:14 No.36843440 Report

Quoted By: >>36843454 >>36847712

>Pokémon is slow, has a shit movepool, and shit typing. It's also frail.
>Pokémon is a tank with a good movepool, good typing, and is speedy
According to Game Freak, this is how you do "balancing".

Also:
>the pokedex mentions something about a Pokémon that isn't even true
Like with Vikavolt being fast but actually having 43 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:51:50 No.36843454 Report

Quoted By: >>36843474 >>36847712

>>36843440
Vikavolt moves fast but he atacks slow. His atacks take some time charging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:54:39 No.36843474 Report

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>>36843454
With a gen crammed with signature moves. Giving a beak blast equivalent to Vikavolt would have conveyed that better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:15:20 No.36843562 Report

Quoted By: >>36847488 >>36847517

>>36843407
But why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:18:21 No.36843579 Report

Quoted By: >>36843590

>>36843370
>using early level Volcarina in BW2
Kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:20:27 No.36843590 Report

Quoted By: >>36843636

>>36843579
As soon as you give a reason that doesn't stem from your personal autism I will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:23:47 No.36843611 Report

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>>36843359
He's most likely talking about their evolution levels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:28:27 No.36843636 Report

Quoted By: >>36843662 >>36843753 >>36844951

>>36843590
>terrible learn set
>any good moves and tm potential is locked towards the end of the game

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Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:31:14 No.36843649 Report

Quoted By: >>36843719 >>36843737 >>36848297

>>36843350
>let's make an ice type fossil pokemon
>the rock/ice typing has a lot of weaknesses, though, so give it a lot of HP
>don't make his defenses TOO good, though, we don't want it to bee too op!
>also make his regular ability offensive-oriented
>but don't make his offensive stats TOO good, though!
>also make it slow
>ah, yes...now THAT's a balanced pokemon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:33:31 No.36843662 Report

Quoted By: >>36843753

>>36843636
This. you have to give up the free Red shards you're given just to teach it signal beam and your stuck with that as your best and only real damaging move until endgame. They knew exactly what they were doing when they let you get one so early. It was a more extreme version of the platinum Golbat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:41:48 No.36843719 Report

Quoted By: >>36849384

>>36843649
Ideally the thing should have some troll speed tier like 111 speed and 110~120 attack and/or special attack because with that weakness stacking it isn't living through shit. Oh and the poor thing doesn't even get Power Gem because gotta kick the thing while it's down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:43:33 No.36843737 Report

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>>36843649
>viable in UU somehow
Thank god for slush rush and Aurora veil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:47:10 No.36843753 Report

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>>36843636
>>36843662
Why is that a problem for in-game? It has tremendous stats balanced out by weak early BP. The point is to use early on a Pokemon that looks cool, not to use a Pokemon that steamrolls like Pikachu/Eevee in LGPE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:47:10 No.36843754 Report

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>>36843350
Volcanora is actually fucking broken.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:58:27 No.36843817 Report

Quoted By: >>36847809 >>36847850

>>36843350
Gen 5s late evolutions was one of the stupidest decisions in the franchise and a halfassed way of attempting to balance out a greater powercreep created in that same generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 01:56:04 No.36844951 Report

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>>36843636
He's talking about ugly/cool pokemon though, not viable

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 02:06:08 No.36845004 Report

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>>36843370

That Volcarona's moveset is so shit I killed it and caught it at a highr level post E4 and had to abuse the free power anket and lens you get in B2 to catch it up.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 11:33:52 No.36846757 Report

Quoted By: >>36846782 >>36849428 >>36849667

>>36843350
They didn't want you using Pseudo-legendaries before postgame.
I had to dump all my rare candies into my Zweilous to get Hydreigon before the N fight, but that left my other mons underlevelled.
Meanwhile, Ghetsis has a level 54 Hydreigon...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 11:43:12 No.36846774 Report

Quoted By: >>36847973 >>36847992

>>36843350
Did people really find it hard to level them up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 11:45:19 No.36846782 Report

Quoted By: >>36846828

>>36846757
You know pass powers exist, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 12:13:13 No.36846828 Report

Quoted By: >>36847403

>>36846782
Only in B2/W2, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 15:40:41 No.36847403 Report

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>>36846828
You're joking right

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 15:56:22 No.36847488 Report

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>>36843562
because they stink

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:05:00 No.36847517 Report

Quoted By: >>36847633

>>36843562
because gamefreak themselves think that pokemon are like real creatures and not just some piece of data. That´s why they try to fit lore into it and other shit. That´s why sugi said, that he tries to uncute or uncool pokemon, because in reality nothing is perfect.

That´s why no one except them could make Pokemon. The biggest changes they made for existing Pokemon are changing Gengars ability and rearranging some stats.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:08:02 No.36847537 Report

Quoted By: >>36847781

>>36843350
>What if we put in a bunch of allusions to a minigame and then don't put in that minigame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:25:45 No.36847609 Report

Quoted By: >>36849205

>the pokemon based off of Hawaiian Hula Dancers cannot be obtained in Hawaii
And then the Ultra games had the audacity to have two Bellossom NPCs while still not adding Oddish to the regional dex, despite adding 100 new species to Alola.
I don't even care about the Oddish line all that much, but this goes beyond retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:25:59 No.36847611 Report

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>>36843350
Is it bad this makes me more hyped for King of the Monsters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:30:17 No.36847633 Report

Quoted By: >>36847657 >>36847659

>>36847517
IIRC, they also retconned some movesets during the GBC-GBA transition.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:35:19 No.36847655 Report

Quoted By: >>36848118

>>36843350
i realize they were trying to pander to genwunners, but did they really think people weren't going to notice how lazy it was to copy-paste viridian forest and rename it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:36:31 No.36847657 Report

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>>36847633
They shuffle around movesets for every game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:36:58 No.36847659 Report

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>>36847633
Most of the changes were inconsequential, like Phanpy being unable to learn Water Gun. The Gen 3 move tutors restored most movesets and the re-releases of RBY and GSC on VC restored the rest

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:41:04 No.36847673 Report

Quoted By: >>36847814 >>36847860 >>36848228 >>36849516

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 16:48:33 No.36847712 Report

Quoted By: >>36847869

>>36843440
>>36843454
Vikavolt just needs to get more than one Speedup, instead of going right for Laser and Options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:08:30 No.36847781 Report

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>>36847537
I think they meant to add rhyhorn racing as a minigame (you can see a tiny bit of the tracks in the game) but ended up ditching it, as all the other things that were clearly meant to be more fleshed out in XY (power plant, lumiose sewers, eternal floette, zygarde)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:14:54 No.36847809 Report

Quoted By: >>36849596

>>36843817
This. I fucking hate gen 5 with a passion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:16:16 No.36847814 Report

Quoted By: >>36847993 >>36848278 >>36849137

>>36847673
>place these as early game mons in Gen 7
I pity anyone who unknowingly used one throughout the entire game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:21:18 No.36847845 Report

Quoted By: >>36848000

>>36843356
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:23:39 No.36847850 Report

Quoted By: >>36847881

>>36843817
Not really, with the tools you have at your disposal you could have level 70 pokemon by the end of the 6th gym. Not to mention the free lucky egg you get from Juniper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:25:40 No.36847860 Report

Quoted By:

>>36847673
>>36843350
Still better than anything involving trading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:27:58 No.36847869 Report

Quoted By:

>>36847712
But it does, the final move it learns gives it two.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:29:53 No.36847881 Report

Quoted By:

>>36847850
That doesn't stop it from being stupid considering the 6th gym mons are about half that level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:36:44 No.36847913 Report

Quoted By:

>>36843350
I think that is just mean they're really strong. Going for that approach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:48:21 No.36847957 Report

Quoted By: >>36847970

>SLOW
>FRAIL
>MIXED ATTACKER
Gen 3 EVs were a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:51:30 No.36847970 Report

Quoted By: >>36847977 >>36847989 >>36847996 >>36848018

>>36847957
How many of these did Gen 3 add? I can only think of Seviper, Camerupt, and Crawdaunt

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:52:46 No.36847973 Report

Quoted By: >>36848022

>>36846774
Not hard, just tedious. No Pokemon should ever have another evolution level beyond 55.
It's not like Volcarona and Hydreigon's stats are that good to warrant their late evolutions. Volcarona could have been 42-45 easily, and Hydreigon should have been 50-55.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:54:15 No.36847977 Report

Quoted By: >>36847996

>>36847970
Cacturne
Blazikens 80 speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:56:31 No.36847989 Report

Quoted By: >>36847996

>>36843350
I wish they retconned it since while in gen 5 that meant only 15~ levels with the first stage it makes them unusable in every game past it
>>36847970
>Spinda
>Exploud
>Banette
>Base Absol
>If you don't count HA and Megas debatable blaziken

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:57:13 No.36847992 Report

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>>36846774
I doubt many enjoyed heading in and out of the sports stadium 20 times to level them up to 60.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:57:20 No.36847993 Report

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>>36847814
At least they have semi-usable stats, on par with many mid-stage Pokemon, even if their late evolution shouldn't exist at all. I felt worse for Noibat. It's stats aren't good from the point you can catch it in Alola (literally Zubat's stats but the attacks are swapped), has a pretty bad movepool, and it evolves at 48.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:57:48 No.36847996 Report

Quoted By: >>36848004

>>36847970
>>36847977
Exploud
I guess Whiscash? Only stat above 80 is HP so it might just be a regular old shitmon

>>36847989
Absol is slow and frail but only Mega Absol is a mixed attacker

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:58:48 No.36848000 Report

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>>36847845
To be fair, if that anon was thinking about the inspiration behind Volcarona line then it would be a her (typically) but I guess not. So...

>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 17:59:22 No.36848004 Report

Quoted By: >>36848011

>>36847996
Whiscash is more of that "well rounded" Pokemon, like Golduck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:01:16 No.36848011 Report

Quoted By: >>36849301 >>36849527

>>36848004
I fucking love how there was an anon a few days back that sperged over how he didn't expect Whiscash to be Ground/Water kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:02:49 No.36848018 Report

Quoted By: >>36848037

>>36847970
sharpedo, not too slow though, but 95 base speed isn't impressive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:04:04 No.36848022 Report

Quoted By: >>36848079

>>36847973
>just tedious
Thing is gen 5 was one of the easiest games to level in after 6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:07:02 No.36848037 Report

Quoted By: >>36848877

>>36848018
Sharpedo's speed wasn't awful in Gen 3. Only things with 100 base speed back then were Mew and its ilk, Salamence, Flygon, Slaking, and Zapdos.

It wasn't a shitmon because it was slow, it was a shitmon because it was a physical pokemon whose whole movepool was special with the exceptions of EQ and Rock Slide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:11:20 No.36848053 Report

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>>36843350
I know, right?

So few taking advantage of levels over 50 to evolve makes them utterly pointless. Might as well decrease the cap to 50 in future games if they aren't going to have something evolving at every level past it as well.

This is one of the problems I'm fixing as I go over stats etc. Stats should be associated with how deep it's possible to obtain them in-game including evolution levels. Outside starters and legends, shit with stat totals of 600 should be closer to Level 100 evolutions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:17:16 No.36848079 Report

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>>36848022
Doesn't make it okay though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:19:24 No.36848091 Report

Quoted By:

hey
slow, defensive ice/other shit type with no recovery

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:21:16 No.36848097 Report

Quoted By: >>36848129 >>36848139 >>36850127

>forced to do at least one when you start a new adventure
>movies are extremely boring to make and watch
>one time gimmick
https://youtu.be/kmMhzaF7puM

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:24:47 No.36848118 Report

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>>36847655
The hilarious part is that it's a more dumbed down version of the original.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:26:37 No.36848129 Report

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>>36848097
>Every time I go on a BW2 randomizer run I have to go through this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:27:55 No.36848139 Report

Quoted By: >>36848154 >>36848159

>>36848097
>Hating based puzzle fights.
I bet you defend ORAS's lack of BF too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:29:35 No.36848154 Report

Quoted By: >>36848170

>>36848139
The issue is not the puzzles, the issue is that they're slow as shit to go through every single time and some of them can be screwed over entirely with a little bad luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:31:17 No.36848159 Report

Quoted By: >>36848170

>>36848139
It wasn't a puzzle, it was pointless scripted nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:33:03 No.36848170 Report

Quoted By: >>36848187

>>36848159
>>36848154
Bet you homos hate Battle CDs too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:34:03 No.36848174 Report

Quoted By: >>36848185

>>36843350
Vibrava needing just 10 lvls to become flygon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:36:59 No.36848185 Report

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>>36848174
why is that bad? If you picked Totodile it only spends 12 levels as Croconaw. What arbitrary number of levels should a pokemon be in each of its forms?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:37:06 No.36848187 Report

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>>36848170
Let's tone it down here, people. Battle CDs were great, PokeStudios is great, both have flaws worth addressing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:44:39 No.36848222 Report

Quoted By:

>>36843356
haxorus should've been the pseudo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:46:31 No.36848228 Report

Quoted By: >>36848259

>>36843350
Shit like this is why I avoid gen 5 pokemon whenever I play through a new game now. I was tempted to catch a Vullaby on my current UM run but then I remembered >>36847673 ...I still have no fucking idea why they thought this was good design for that game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:55:45 No.36848259 Report

Quoted By: >>36848895

>>36848228
Yeah, regardless how accommodating to those high levels the Gen 5 games are, the mons from that gen are cursed forever with those heightened evolution levels -- Gen 6 Unova natives, Gen 7 Unova natives, etc. You end up with a big disconnect between them and mons from other gens. If your team is in the 30s, you can have fully evolved mons from other gens and then still awkwardly stuff like Golett or Rufflet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 18:59:18 No.36848278 Report

Quoted By:

>>36847814
They had a chance to fix this. They could have made Rufflet/Vullaby have a small chance of calling for Braviary/Mandibuzz. It would have been cool and made sense. But no, in that same route there's Bagon that can call for a lvl 12 Salamence for the lulz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:00:10 No.36848285 Report

Quoted By:

>>36843359
this tbqf

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:03:22 No.36848297 Report

Quoted By: >>36849384

>>36843649
>its a special Rock type
>nah, fuck giving it Power Gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:05:22 No.36848306 Report

Quoted By: >>36850139 >>36850153

>>36843350
>most powerful mons in the game level up late
oh no what a tragedy

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:08:52 No.36848320 Report

Quoted By: >>36848331 >>36848332 >>36848902

>>36843350
Chansey should have been saved for a mega. This was just uncalled for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:11:37 No.36848331 Report

Quoted By: >>36848918

>>36848320
What? A friendship evolution?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:11:47 No.36848332 Report

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>>36848320
Blame Eviolite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 19:30:02 No.36848431 Report

Quoted By: >>36849646

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 20:56:45 No.36848877 Report

Quoted By: >>36848914

>>36848037
Now you must be aware that speeds above 100 exist---Swellow, Crobat, Sceptile, and more. There was no Garchomp but 95 base Speed wasn't a non-issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 20:59:41 No.36848895 Report

Quoted By: >>36848965 >>36848984

>>36848259
>Golett
Level 43 isn't that high. Most pokemon reach their final forms in the late 30's and evolving at 40 isn't uncommon either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:01:05 No.36848902 Report

Quoted By: >>36848918

>>36848320
What's so bad about Blissey?
Happiny on the other hand...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:01:06 No.36848904 Report

Quoted By: >>36849258

>>36843350
This piece of shit facility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:02:54 No.36848914 Report

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>>36848877
Nobody gave a shit about Swellow and Crobat's best sets back then were some stupid Confuse Ray annoyer sets or Hazing Dragon Dancers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:03:39 No.36848918 Report

Quoted By: >>36848953 >>36848967

>>36848331
>>36848902
blissey couldve been a mega with better offensive stats. Chansey is fine being a final evo with maybe a little more def. No one uses blissey over chansey

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:05:33 No.36848932 Report

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>>36843370
yeah its fucked
i finished the game with a bloody Pawniard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:09:27 No.36848953 Report

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>>36848918
...Because of an item introduced like a decade after Blissey was a thing. SkarmBliss was the original all purpose defensive core for several gens. Even when mixed attackers were a thing, Blissey didn't get crept until Eviolite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:13:01 No.36848965 Report

Quoted By: >>36848971 >>36849071

>>36848895
Not for Pokemon that only evolve once. And over 40 has always been pushing it in general, with pseudos being the main exception. But then they pushed even the Gen 5 pseudo further to evolve at.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:13:21 No.36848967 Report

Quoted By: >>36848979

>>36848918
Blissey is better in Ubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:14:21 No.36848971 Report

Quoted By: >>36848994

>>36848965
This. You're barely over 40, maybe into the 50s in pretty much every Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:15:57 No.36848979 Report

Quoted By: >>36848990 >>36849004

>>36848967
>tyrogue used Mach Punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:16:21 No.36848984 Report

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>>36848895
We're talking about 50+ stuff....things like Mienfoo, Rufflet, Pawniard and to a lesser extent Deino/Larvesta. I get that the last two were basically the "pseudos" but even then the other games had sense and kept their pseudo's requirements in the 45-55 range so it was feasible to beat the game with one. Nobody is going to have a fucking Hydreigon on their team by the E4 though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:17:40 No.36848990 Report

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>>36848979
>blissey used counter!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:18:30 No.36848994 Report

Quoted By: >>36849025

>>36848971
I'm playing UM right now and I daresay my team is gonna be mid 60s by the end of the game, it was the case with X/Y too.

I think 63-66 is the new norm for finishing a pokemon game nowadays

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:20:41 No.36849004 Report

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>>36848979
tyrogue is pretty uncommon in ubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:24:04 No.36849025 Report

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>>36848994
I haven't replayed any of the 3DS games, so I'll take your word for it. I played through Black a few months ago, and my highest mon was a level 52 Haxorus. The rest were averaged at level 45.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:26:05 No.36849034 Report

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>>36843357
>a decent bit
If they were in Johto, you'd have a first stage Pokemon against the elite four. All Pokemon should be in their final stage by level 55.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:29:35 No.36849051 Report

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>>36843407
And how is that not stupid? This "purist" mentality is dumb af. Why can't evos/prevos be next to each other in the dex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:32:34 No.36849071 Report

Quoted By: >>36849165

>>36848965
>Not for Pokemon that only evolve once. And over 40 has always been pushing it in general,
every fossil mon says otherwise

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:43:48 No.36849137 Report

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>>36847814
y-yeah, who would be dumb enough to accidentally do that? ha ha...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:47:54 No.36849165 Report

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>>36849071
Did you actually check? Because I just did and you're 100% wrong. Highest is 40 itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 21:54:19 No.36849205 Report

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>>36847609
Bellosome isn't based on anything from Hawaii, it's based on japan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:04:28 No.36849247 Report

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>route 3 pokemon evolves at the same level as you'd get Garchomp at
>it's total deadweight
fucking noibat

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:05:43 No.36849258 Report

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>>36848904
>the rank system in general
Legendarily bad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:16:21 No.36849301 Report

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>>36848011
I saved that

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:36:46 No.36849384 Report

Quoted By: >>36849677

>>36843719
>>36848297
Since it's been brought up

>Make a special Rock type move
>Only 10 rock types get it and less than half of that small pool have the Special Attack to make good use of it
>It's also one of two rock type moves over 50 BP with 100% accuracy

And on top of that
>Only 100% accurate Rock moves with >50 BP are both special in a type that is solidly a majority of physical attackers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:38:46 No.36849391 Report

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>wild charge was weaker than tbolt, has no secondary effects, and deals recoil to the user
Is there any reason why this move sucks so hard?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:43:06 No.36849415 Report

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>>36843350
Atrocious taste

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 22:49:19 No.36849428 Report

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>>36846757

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:05:03 No.36849487 Report

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I just realised that this is probably the reason why they made the eviolite

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:09:52 No.36849516 Report

Quoted By: >>36849559

>>36847673

I unironically caught a rufflet on my Ultra sun run at lv10 on the first island and kept it until E4 where it finally evolved because im not a fucking bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:11:33 No.36849525 Report

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>>36843356
Heatran, Volcarona and Diancie should've all been the pseudos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:11:39 No.36849527 Report

Quoted By: >>36849577

>>36848011
That had potential to be the new my mom’s dog

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:13:58 No.36849540 Report

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gamefreak should make more really powerful endgame/postgame/lategame mons that aren't actually legends. And more endgame/postgame missions like looker stuff and rainbow rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:16:50 No.36849559 Report

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>>36849516
absolutely based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:19:39 No.36849577 Report

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>>36849527
Nah, that was a different level

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:23:03 No.36849596 Report

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>>36847809
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:27:20 No.36849622 Report

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I - I like late evos... It feels like more rewarding that way...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:30:42 No.36849646 Report

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>>36843356
Given its later dex position and high level requirement I honestly believe they considered doing that but decided against it last minute.
>>36848431
thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:35:07 No.36849667 Report

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>>36846757
Ghetsis' hydreigon was a nice surprise for players. It probably would have been a bigger surprise and ended up on some pseudo-intellectual gaming website writer's list of "biggest surprise bosses in gaming" or "Moments During Boss Fights YOU Did Not Expect in Video Games" had the Ghetsis fight occurred in a much earlier generation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Oct 2018 23:36:47 No.36849677 Report

Quoted By: >>36849848

>>36849384
the only special rock-types are omastar, lunatone, aurorus, nihilego, magcargo, and corsola. I excluded Minior and Probopass since they can go either way.

not sure who okayed the decision that only one of them should get power gem

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:01:08 No.36849802 Report

Quoted By: >>36849821 >>36849835 >>36849874

>>36843350
why the fuck did they make challenge and easy mode version exclusive post game stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:04:04 No.36849821 Report

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>>36849802
I'm convinced they knew it was an awful idea but did it just to fuck with people. That's the only reasoning for like all of their stupid shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:09:20 No.36849835 Report

Quoted By: >>36849858

>>36849802
Not only that but the difficulty settings are VERSION EXCLUSIVE (B2 gets challenge mode, W2 gets babby mode) and you have to trade with someone with the opposite game to get the difficulty setting you want. Not only that but you have to beat the champ once in order to get the difficulty setting of each game.
So if you were unfortunate to grab White 2 and you want the game to be harder, too bad fucker, you have to interact with someone who has Black 2 and has beaten the champ at least once in order to get Challenge Mode.
What's the fucking point? They should have scrapped the fucking thing if I have to go through many hoops in order to make the game harder/easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:13:08 No.36849848 Report

Quoted By:

>>36849677
nihilego and lunatone both get it now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:15:12 No.36849858 Report

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>>36849835
It's incredible how much pokemon has that encourages cheating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 00:19:41 No.36849874 Report

Quoted By:

>>36849802
They were scared difficulty modes would be rejected by the fandom because scary change so they locked it away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 01:31:08 No.36850127 Report

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>>36848097
Pokestar Studios is one of the main reasons people should berate anyone who claims B2W2 are the best Pokemon games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 01:34:39 No.36850139 Report

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>>36848306
Don't be an obtuse faggot. Other gens have plenty of other usable/powerful pokemon that don't take that long to level up.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Oct 2018 01:40:06 No.36850153 Report

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>>36848306
Other gens have plenty of other usable and more powerful pokemon that don't take that long to evolve. And many of Unova's late evolutions aren't powerful or useful anyway. Don't be an obtuse faggot.

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