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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:07:11 No.36872570 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36872576 >>36872601 >>36872620 >>36872633 >>36872676 >>36872682 >>36873608 >>36875814 >>36877489

When they will fix tms?
The selection sucks.
I would get rid of ice beam, protect, doubleteam.
Add more moves that are more strategical:

All punches
Aurora Veil
Leaf Tornado
Partying Shot
WIde Guard
Tailwind
Mirror Move
Brave Bird

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:09:01 No.36872576 Report

Quoted By: >>36872586

>>36872570
>I would get rid of ice beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:12:25 No.36872586 Report

Quoted By: >>36872597 >>36872689 >>36876076

>>36872576
Ice beam makes almost all ice pokemon absolete. I would steal leave other ice moves TMs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:17:37 No.36872597 Report

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>>36872586
tiny iq

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:19:32 No.36872601 Report

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>>36872570
Aurora Veil IS a TM, you retard.

It's nº 70.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:19:41 No.36872602 Report

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SUCKER PUNCH

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:26:57 No.36872620 Report

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>>36872570
Except getting rid of TMs means basically nothing when you can just transfer in a pokemon that knows the move. Nowadays if a pokemon gets a move, there's likely no getting rid of it unless it's a move tutor situation like for Hitmontop's Drill Run and Victreebel's Bug Bite.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:29:33 No.36872633 Report

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>>36872570
>All tutor moves that are recycled across gens are tms.
I'd prefer not to wait to the end of the 3rd edition to get a full moveset.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:45:33 No.36872667 Report

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>>36872633
Nobody gives a shit about you though competitive fuck you should be in showdown not wifi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:52:21 No.36872676 Report

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>>36872570
Then people will just waste their time doing more tedious breeding just to get ice beam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:55:45 No.36872682 Report

Quoted By: >>36872687 >>36872705 >>36873873 >>36875814 >>36877555

>>36872570
HM redux, cause why no make them viable AND needed ingame.

>Cut - 65 bp, 95 ac, Grass type
>Fly - 100 bp, 100 ac
>Surf - Fine here.
>Strength - Fighting type
>Flash - Z-Flash now increases speed by 3 stages
>Rock Smash - 50 bp, 100% chance to lower defense
>Waterfall - Fine here.
>Dive - 100 bp, 30% chance to flinch
>Defog - Fine here.
>Whirlpool - 100 acc
>Rock Climb - 100 bp, 85 acc, Rock type

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:56:13 No.36872684 Report

Quoted By: >>36875567

>>36872676
But icebeam is worth breeding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:57:42 No.36872687 Report

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>>36872682
*z-flash should be special attack, not speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 04:58:51 No.36872689 Report

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>>36872586
But moves like Ice Shard and Freeze-Dry are equally as good if not better than Ice Beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 05:02:45 No.36872693 Report

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>>36872689
They are better attacks but they are given to worse pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 05:05:16 No.36872705 Report

Quoted By: >>36872707 >>36875814

>>36872682
>that cut
>viable
make it gimmicky at least
>80 bp
>physical
>steel type
>always crits if used against a grass type

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 05:08:14 No.36872707 Report

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>>36872705
yeah i was kinda disappointed with that one :/ I figured a low bp grass attack can be good for some physical attakcers, and i mean hell cut is on a ton of mons

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Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 11:46:19 No.36873608 Report

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>>36872570
They're pretty good now, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 12:54:30 No.36873873 Report

Quoted By: >>36876391

>>36872682
>Cut being grass type instead of a Normal Freeze-dry against Grass
Flash should reduce accuracy by 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 13:06:05 No.36873903 Report

Quoted By: >>36873987

There should be a tm for every move honestly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 13:34:51 No.36873987 Report

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>>36873903
This would make Smeargle obsolete, as Mew learns all TMs.

> >Rock Climb - 100 bp, 85 acc, Rock type
Er, no! I would keep it as Normal type with 90 BP, 85 Acc., 30 % chance to confuse (and Dunsparce should learn it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 17:01:29 No.36875567 Report

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>>36872684
Yes but breeding takes forever and is a waste of time

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 17:40:07 No.36875814 Report

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>>36872570
>Leaf Tornado instead of ice Beam
this is bizarre bait but i'll humor it

Remove:
>Work Up
>Round
>Echoed Voice
>Confide
>Embargo
>Payback
>Frustration
>Quash

Add:
>Nasty Plot
>Play Rough
>Sucker Punch (Gen 4 Tutor move that never came back)
>Power Gem
>Earth Power
>Freeze Dry
>Parting Shot
>Spotlight

>>36872682
Strength should be Rock-type. "user pushes a boulder into the foe". There. That's it. No other changes necessary. Stronger and more accurate than Rock Slide but Rock Slide keeps its niche of hitting 2 targets and having a flinch chance. Easy.

>>36872705
>80 BP move when your strongest moves at the beginning of the game are 40-60 BP
what's wrong with you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 18:16:07 No.36876076 Report

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>>36872586
if their gonna throw a powerful dragon on the champion/elite four team (which they usually do) I would like to have my water pokemon have ice beam and not scrounge for an Ice type.

Fairy is an alternative but I'd rather keep that ice beam TM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 19:03:07 No.36876391 Report

Quoted By: >>36877156

>>36873873
I've seen people bitch about flash not being banned in OU as it is now. So it's probably good enough in its current state: not really op but has its uses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 21:00:42 No.36877156 Report

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>>36876391
It’s not so much to buff a bad thing, just to have Flash be different than all the other -1acc debuff moves.
Sorta like how they made String Shot drop speed by 2 levels to differentiate it from Sticky Webs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 21:56:26 No.36877489 Report

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>>36872570
Protect is literally a strategic move you fucking nobjockey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 01 Nov 2018 22:06:33 No.36877555 Report

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>>36872682
Buff waterfall to have the same BP as surf.

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