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>>36900641
Why is Greninja that low holy shit, was he nerfed again?
Also here's something https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Eg6uJPaZw
Revenge powered f throw did over 30 fucking %

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 17:42:15 No.36900722 Report

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>>36900715
that's not "worst", that's "idk"

the impressions are "seems good", "seems ok", "seems bad", "idk" and the characters aren't arranged specifically

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 17:43:16 No.36900730 Report

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>>36900722
Alright, that's somewhat reassuring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 17:44:31 No.36900736 Report

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>>36900594
>>36900619
haha, he's Randy Orton

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 17:49:31 No.36900755 Report

Quoted By: >>36900782

>>36900641
>Pikachu at top tier
SSB shenanigans are back on the menu, boys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 17:57:25 No.36900782 Report

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>>36900755
t. ESAM

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:05:19 No.36900801 Report

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>>36900641

>Jiggs in Upper

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:06:41 No.36900806 Report

Quoted By: >>36900870

>>36900641
Wait, the Puff was Buffed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:24:11 No.36900870 Report

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>>36900806

With the death of dodge spam and generally better knockback across the board, Puff's air game is going to be fearsome again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:25:25 No.36900877 Report

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>>36900641
I'm gonna main Inkling!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:25:59 No.36900883 Report

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>>36900594
>>36900619
So is this intentionally put in to increase his recovery time on moves? Does that mean all of his attacks are OP but come at a high cost? That sounds kinda shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:27:36 No.36900894 Report

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>>36900641
>METAknight is top tier again
As it should be

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:27:57 No.36900897 Report

Quoted By: >>36900900

>>36900883
>spot the retard that wasn't paying attention
They said you can cancel out of the animations. there's no extra recovery frames

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:28:36 No.36900899 Report

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>>36900641
>upper tier is already full of anime swordsmen and literal whos
god I hate smash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:28:56 No.36900900 Report

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>>36900897
I didnt watch the vid you fuckin mong

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:29:50 No.36900908 Report

Quoted By: >>36900912

>>36900641
I wouldn't really put any faith in just one person's list, even if that person was M2K or ZeRo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:31:04 No.36900912 Report

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>>36900908
it's just impressions anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:31:21 No.36900914 Report

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>>36900899
>literal whos
maybe if you're a fucking troglodyte you fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:32:58 No.36900920 Report

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>>36900641
>tier lists before game is even out
Literal autism

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:33:22 No.36900923 Report

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>>36900899
>literal whos
Theres one character in that tier that im not familiar with, and im a level above casual

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:35:26 No.36900929 Report

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>>36900899
The only literal who's on there ARE the anime swordsman. Every non-FE character on there is easily recognizable.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:36:05 No.36900932 Report

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>>36900641
>Lucas at the bottom
Sad!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:36:52 No.36900937 Report

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>>36900641
God damn it, I fucking hate this furfag cat but he actually looks really fun as a fighter. I might have to lab him alongside Simon and Ridley now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:38:11 No.36900941 Report

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>>36900594
I would unironically suck Sakurai's dick for how amazing he made Incineroar look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:38:51 No.36900943 Report

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>>36900932
that means abadango is unsure anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:41:27 No.36900949 Report

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>>36900663
His new down B triples his options :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:42:46 No.36900958 Report

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>>36900932
Just play Ness, its the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:45:14 No.36900976 Report

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>>36900900
>retard doesn't pay attention
>gets called out for not paying attention, while at the same time beiong told this was already talked about, had he been paying attention
>gets mad and admits he wasn't paying attention
kek, spacker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:46:41 No.36900984 Report

Quoted By: >>36900992

>>36900594
I honestly found incineroar annoying to play, he's more like a close combat user huh? if there won't be any items at hand he's going to be BTFO

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:47:06 No.36900986 Report

Quoted By: >>36902509

>>36900641
>Samus seems bad again
Goddammit. It’s not fair.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:48:09 No.36900990 Report

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>>36900920
It’s not a tier list, just an impressions list. I don’t believe the fighters are even ordered within each group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:48:11 No.36900992 Report

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>>36900984
Does Smash even have notable zoners? All of the best characters are super fast in your face types like Sheik, Fox, Diddy and Bayo.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:51:51 No.36901005 Report

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>>36900992

Duck Hunt and Pac-Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:52:49 No.36901009 Report

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>>36900992
Well Rosalina can zone with Luma

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:58:13 No.36901025 Report

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>>36900641
>Link in top tier
Fake list.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 18:58:22 No.36901026 Report

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>>36900958
you wanna fight anon

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 19:04:38 No.36901059 Report

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Apparently, there are 4 characters that take damage if they fall in the water, Sonic, Inkling, Charizard and Incineroar.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 19:06:48 No.36901075 Report

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>>36901059
STOP

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 19:32:39 No.36901206 Report

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>>36901059
What about the pikmin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 19:34:06 No.36901215 Report

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>>36901206
Olimar can survive in water just fine, also blue Pikmin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 19:35:04 No.36901220 Report

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>>36901026
When the game comes out sure!
I’ll be happy to play with you :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 20:11:18 No.36901411 Report

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>>36900641
>Link
Doubt he'll be top when game comes out. "HOLY SHIT BROS LINK IS FINALLY GOOD" has been something I've heard in every single game and not once has it been true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 20:12:50 No.36901420 Report

Quoted By: >>36902781

>>36900641
>wakaran
Just so everyone knows, that bottom tier isn't "bottom tier", it's "i don't know"

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 20:38:56 No.36901618 Report

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>>36900641
literally who?

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 20:42:23 No.36901654 Report

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>>36900641
>Marth finally in top tier since Melee
It's been too long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 22:21:42 No.36902294 Report

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>>36900641
>K.Rool
>Upper

Better than I expected, can't wait.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 22:59:10 No.36902509 Report

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>>36900986
Why does Sakurai hate her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:09:03 No.36902565 Report

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>>36900654
>Watching people argue over a cat monster from a kid's game

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:09:35 No.36902569 Report

Quoted By: >>36902591

>>36900641
>Isabelle that low
It isn't fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:13:54 No.36902591 Report

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>>36902569 >>36901654
>>36901411
>>36901025

its just an impressions list not a tier list

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:18:35 No.36902605 Report

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>>36900594
>>36900619
>made it into smash
>still S E E T H I N G

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:25:06 No.36902645 Report

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>>36900641
>Bayo still on the top even after all the nerfs
Let's dance, boys.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:41:31 No.36902738 Report

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>>36900641
>Link and Zelda in the highest tier
I want to believe, I really do, but in the end I know they’ll just be considered bad again in a few years.
Also, isn’t the guy a Pika main? I know Pikachu’s good in every Smash game but that does seem rather biased.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:43:25 No.36902743 Report

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>>36902738
Well Pikachu has a spike in this game so it does have something extra going for it.

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:46:24 No.36902759 Report

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>>36900641
Has he played piranha plant? I was under the impression nothing was known outside the trailers

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:47:28 No.36902767 Report

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>>36902645
I hope she takes more skill to actually use, it’s not fun using her if it’ll just be easy to stomp the rest of the cast

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:49:42 No.36902781 Report

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>>36902759
>>36901420

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Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:51:59 No.36902793 Report

Quoted By: >>36905757

>>36900958
They play completely differently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:53:46 No.36902807 Report

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>>36902767
From what I've heard, they nerfed her combos so she isn't braindead anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:54:54 No.36902816 Report

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>>36900992
>Samus in Melee
>Snake and Olimar in Brawl
>Rosalina in Smash 4
And of course pretty much every sword character utilizes spacing to some degree. Plus most top tiers have at least one good zoning tool (Falco and lasers in melee, Diddy with bananas, and Bayo with bullets.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 05 Nov 2018 23:55:59 No.36902821 Report

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>>36901025
Link actually has some really good traps with his new Down B, and his grab game is far better with no tether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 00:01:30 No.36902853 Report

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>>36902767
>she
>her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 09:32:05 No.36905165 Report

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>>36900663
>Improved start-up dash makes him able to take advantage of his good max runspeed
>Jumpsquat is standardized to 3 frames for everyone so he no longer has to suffer with his 7 frames
>landing lag of all his aerials got reduced by a ton
>air speed got buffed
>2nd jump height got buffed to be like his first
>bair covers even more area now on top of getting its landing lag reduced
>up smash has become reliable and will always hit now

Literally the only negatives are his short hop dragon claw doesn't auto cancel but that is probably due to his faster air speed messing it up and his 2nd jab sometimes doesn't hit and both of those are more likely an oversight and will be fixed. Seriously, Charizard in ultimate is what he should have been in 4. It's like they dumped him into 4 half finished and are only making the proper changes now. Which is weird because you'd think a solo character should be stronger than if he was in a team that covers all his weaknesses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 09:33:52 No.36905173 Report

Quoted By: >>36905229

it's not fair, the owl should have been in

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:00:18 No.36905229 Report

Quoted By: >>36905248

>>36905173
Pokken my dude. Imagine being a Primarina fan and having nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:09:47 No.36905242 Report

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>>36900641
>Kirby low tier again
Another game where I’m eternally stuck in C tier it seems

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:13:18 No.36905248 Report

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>>36905229
I never understood the WAAH THIS POKEMON IS HIGH IN POPULARITY WHY NOT IN SMAAAASSSH

Eevee and Meowth are consistent popular mons but appear only as pokeballs (and Eevee only recently in Sm4sh). It speaks more about their audience not really caring about "playability" but more on seeing their mon do cute things or just appear.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:14:44 No.36905251 Report

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>>36900641
>make Isabelle a semi-clone of Villager
>make Dork Samus a carbon copy and therefore bad

fucking why, if it could actually do anything out of the Prime games it would be fun as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:26:25 No.36905282 Report

Quoted By: >>36905298 >>36905884 >>36905994 >>36906283

>hate Incineroar
>but want it in Smash to piss everyone off and have a meltdown
>actually gets in
>looks way better than in the actual games
>looks fun to play
>has lots of animation, references and personality, showing that someone put a lot of effort into it
>realize that the biggest problem with Incineroar was Gamefreaks lack of effort and ability to go all out on a concept
>tfw Sakurai made me like something I hate that easily but everyone still hates it anyway
Not like this bros...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:26:42 No.36905283 Report

Quoted By: >>36905289

>>36900594
Is there any gif of Incineroar using Cross Chop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:28:23 No.36905289 Report

Quoted By: >>36906113

>>36905283
close up?

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 10:33:06 No.36905298 Report

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>>36905282
I’m pretty sure many agree that Incineroar is shit in Pokémon but great in Smash, it genuinely feels like he originated in Smash and Pokémon stole him.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 12:51:29 No.36905751 Report

Quoted By: >>36906319

>>36905298
Even its shiny color doesn’t look as god awful in smash since the colors aren’t as bright as physically possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 12:53:45 No.36905757 Report

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>>36902793
That’s the joke, spastic

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 13:40:49 No.36905877 Report

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>>36900641
>zelda
>good character
Fake and gay, baracat can be shit for all I know

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 13:46:09 No.36905884 Report

Quoted By: >>36905909

>>36905282
GF did what they could with the limited format their game has. It's obvious that a fighting game shows more of the character quirks than an JRPG

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 13:52:59 No.36905909 Report

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>>36905884
mere excuse, they just fucked up developing, stupid monster hunter is way more playable

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 14:12:54 No.36905994 Report

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>>36905282
Sorry but not even Sakurai and his wizard squad could fix that abominable mess of a character design, even if they fixed everything else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 14:16:23 No.36906011 Report

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>>36900899
It's only Corin and Lucina. Marth and Roy are pretty well known.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 14:38:04 No.36906113 Report

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>>36905289
Yes

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 14:53:45 No.36906169 Report

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>>36906113
the close up is the slowed version in the direct though, I tried speeding it up

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:07:09 No.36906221 Report

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>>36906113
fixed

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:12:24 No.36906248 Report

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>>36906221
default speed

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:15:49 No.36906275 Report

Quoted By: >>36906282

Do we know young links final smash?
Since normal links is ancient arrow and toons is triforce slash

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:15:49 No.36906276 Report

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>>36906248
>>36906221
jesus christ those fucking lats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:17:10 No.36906282 Report

Quoted By: >>36906303 >>36906351

>>36906275
People were expecting fierce deity, but Young Link has the same boring Triforce Slash Toon Link has. Robins Final Smash is still Chrom for some reason too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:17:13 No.36906283 Report

Quoted By: >>36906293 >>36906296

>>36905282
Some people on here cling desperately to their hatred of him but most outside of here think he looks fun.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:19:17 No.36906293 Report

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>>36906276
here you go anon-kun

>>36906283
Yep, especially the Smash version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:19:35 No.36906296 Report

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>>36906283
I've looked through reaction videos looking for people disliking Incineroar's addition, but unfortunately most of them expressed excitement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:20:39 No.36906303 Report

Quoted By: >>36906309 >>36906316

>>36906282
>Robins Final Smash is still Chrom for some reason too
What happens if he’s in a match with Chrom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:22:11 No.36906309 Report

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>>36906303
Chrom kills himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:23:19 No.36906316 Report

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>>36906303
Chrom cucks himself

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:23:40 No.36906319 Report

Quoted By: >>36906330 >>36906389

>>36905751
>>36900660
>>36900594
almost like he was designed for smash for and for pokemon second.

like sakurai went to pokemon and said 'what's your new entry for ultimate' and they hadn't made one yet, so they made him from ground up to be smashcat, then put him in SM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:25:46 No.36906330 Report

Quoted By: >>36906389

>>36906319
I'd actually joke about how Incineroar's probably one of the early newcomers they developed since it matches with when Unsho Ishizuka was doing voice work for Incineroar.

...ahh, I miss his voice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:32:05 No.36906351 Report

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>>36906282
thats a shame
i wasn't expecting any Deity stuff But something different would have been nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:44:55 No.36906389 Report

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>>36906319
>>36906330
I would laugh if they had drop incineroar but put him in after Ishizuka death, decidueye trigger intensiveness [he is ghost type]

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:45:57 No.36906394 Report

Quoted By: >>36906408

>>36900641
Because some people aren't seeing this currently:
>First Row: Looks Good
>Second: Looks Average
>Third: Looks Bad
>Fourth: Unsure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:48:15 No.36906408 Report

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>>36906394
Maybe I'm stupid but from what I saw, darkest lariat is his B move, so he can protect himself in any time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 15:48:39 No.36906411 Report

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>>36906221
>>36906248
Its looks like a fire type move instead of fighting type move.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 16:59:41 No.36906773 Report

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>>36902509
They refuse to update her kit. She should be able to switch beams, her roll should he faster and based on the boost ball...there's so much missing from her moveset. Dark Samus didn't have to be a clone either. They literally could have looked at her AT for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:24:58 No.36906894 Report

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>>36900641
>Kirby, Pacman, Falco, Bowser, and Dark Samus are bad
Damn.
>Megaman, Ridley, Rob, Wolf, Ike, and Belmonts are good
This makes up for the others.
>Metaknight is great again
Hell yeah, too bad his Galacta Knight color looks like hot garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:31:32 No.36906925 Report

Quoted By: >>36906970 >>36907002

owlfag here.
actually glad they put incineroar in smash over decidueye. heel tiger has a lot more charisma that translates well into party fighting game.
decidueye would've been neat but i'm not gonna lie and say that incineroar shouldn't have gotten the spot.
he looks dope, can't wait to give him a try.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:37:53 No.36906970 Report

Quoted By: >>36907002

>>36906925
Based owlbro.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:42:53 No.36906999 Report

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https://twitter.com/ThePkayM/status/1058758079444017154

based

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:43:12 No.36907002 Report

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>>36906925
>>36906970
>barafags have to pretend to be owlbros and reply to themselves in sad attempt to divide us

Pathetic.

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>>36900594
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