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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:38:10 No.36906971 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>36907041 >>36907310 >>36907345 >>36907450 >>36908188 >>36910120 >>36910755 >>36910916

>be anime
>*Charizard used Fire Blast*
>*Blastoise faints*

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:50:21 No.36907041 Report

Quoted By: >>36907050

>>36906971
Blastoise isn't immune to Fire moves. It still takes damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:52:28 No.36907050 Report

Quoted By: >>36907058

>>36907041
>Charizard can take hydro pump just fine despite low defense
>Blastoise faints from fire moves despite having high defense
Not sure who's more retarded, you or the anime writers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:54:02 No.36907058 Report

Quoted By: >>36907071

>>36907050
What episode are you referring to? For all we know there was a huge level gap, or Fire Blast was a crit.

Also high defense doesn't matter against special moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 17:56:35 No.36907071 Report

Quoted By: >>36907283 >>36907399 >>36910939

>>36907058
Origins had Blastoise go down from Fire Spin and Fire Blast.

Also Blastoise still has high SpDef anyway.

but the problem is Charizard getting its kicked form Hydro Pump but still could go live on just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:30:39 No.36907283 Report

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>>36907071
Red used his Charizard for every fight anon, it was overleveled as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:35:08 No.36907310 Report

Quoted By: >>36907349 >>36908034

>>36906971
>comparing a turn-based RPG to an anime where Pokemon fight like they actually would if they existed IRL

They literally say in the 9th episode of the original series that the games are just a simulation and the anime is the "real deal" and showcase this by having that kid's Weepinbell win against Misty's Starmie in the simulation, but lose in a real battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:35:44 No.36907317 Report

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>be blastoise
>fail
sounds about right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:40:45 No.36907345 Report

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>>36906971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJntmten-Fw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Aqoq6UQxko

Remember the anime logic, the power of friendship and bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:41:04 No.36907349 Report

Quoted By: >>36907382

>>36907310
that's Ash anime not Origins, two different things.
Origins was supposed to be based on the games (even though that was a blatant lie with all those inaccuracies around)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:43:50 No.36907359 Report

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Stab points, motherfucker! And fire blasts counts towards Sp. Defense, not Defense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:46:55 No.36907382 Report

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>>36907349
Origins took being based on the games a bit too literally at times with the fucking health bars, but then had Red's Jolteon get OHKO'd by a Thunderbolt from a fucking Rhyhorn (something that people would criticize if the anime did it, but it's okay when Origins does it)

And you can't use the excuse that abilities didn't exist in Gen 1 because neither did Megas

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:47:02 No.36907384 Report

Quoted By: >>36908269 >>36912128

Meanwhile
>gets hit by several fire and psychic moves in one battle
>still wins

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:49:34 No.36907399 Report

Quoted By: >>36907420

>>36907071
Lv100 Charizard beats a Lv65 Blastoise. Red didn't balance his team at all, hence why everything else gets oneshot by a Rhyhorn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:53:09 No.36907419 Report

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>[pokemon TPC wants to shill] wins
>[non shillmon] loses
Every time. The anime bias is so blatant, just look at Incineroar in the battle royal episodes, it manages to beat Primarina, Machamp, and Poliwrath all at once despite them having type advantage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:53:31 No.36907420 Report

Quoted By: >>36907429

>>36907399
when did they ever mention levels in Origins? levels are games math mechanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:54:47 No.36907429 Report

Quoted By: >>36907454

>>36907420
When do they ever mention "Water resists Fire" in Origins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:59:24 No.36907450 Report

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>>36906971

well it's just like the games where you have to go against rivals with opposing pokemon with type advantages

i dont see the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 18:59:58 No.36907454 Report

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>>36907429
That's the whole concept of Gen1 games.
Rival gets the starter with type advantage to win easily. Origins made Blastoise like a total joke by not even appearing strong against the starter that is weak to him.

They don't need to imply an obvious thing. Water pokemon shouldn't have problems with fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 19:00:06 No.36907455 Report

Quoted By: >>36907500 >>36907507

252 SpA Blaze Charizard Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Blastoise on a critical hit: 137-162 (37.8 - 44.7%)

It works?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 19:09:59 No.36907500 Report

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>>36907455
>implying its not max defense level 50 blastoise vs level 125 charizard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 19:11:57 No.36907507 Report

Quoted By: >>36907552

>>36907455
Rival's Pokémon aren't EV trained. Also SpDef didn't exist in Gen 1, AND Blastoise had already been hit by Mega Punch and an unknown number of turns worth of Fire Spin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 19:17:40 No.36907552 Report

Quoted By: >>36907567

>>36907507
>spdef didn't exist in gen 1
>in the same anime where there is MegaEvolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 19:19:26 No.36907567 Report

Quoted By: >>36911093

>>36907552
Which Gen 6 game can Charizard learn Swift in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 20:41:20 No.36908034 Report

Quoted By: >>36910848

>>36907310
>Pikachu uses Thunderbolt on Swellow so they can defeat a Lunatone and Solrock
>Pikachu! Aim for the horn!
>Pikachu ties against a Latios and episodes later loses against a Snivy
>Baby Nidoqueen and Lugia
>Ash lifting a Larvitar or a fucking tree like it was nothing
>The anime itself says multiple times that it has passed a lot of time since Ash's story begun, sometimes even recalling long periods like months or years, yet he is still 10 years old
>Pikachu and Ash teleport to a fucking paradise where Pikachu talks fluid English and resurrect to defeat Marshadow

Truly a logical story in every way.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 21:04:29 No.36908175 Report

Quoted By: >>36910862 >>36910871

At last Blastoise finally got his revenge

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 21:07:03 No.36908188 Report

Quoted By: >>36910074

>>36906971

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 21:22:34 No.36908269 Report

Quoted By: >>36908290

>>36907384
>both blastoise and charizard had only a special stat of 85 in gen 1
>venusaur had 100 special
Unironically the hardest hitter and tankiest of the three

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Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 21:25:05 No.36908290 Report

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>>36908269
>but it's just a fat frog with a plant so it's the worst starter XD

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Nov 2018 23:28:24 No.36908832 Report

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A reminder that Red in origins went through his adventure the same way most kids do, by overleveling his starter and neglecting to train anything else.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 04:45:53 No.36910074 Report

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>>36908188
>Blaze boosted Blast Burn
And thats why Gen 3 is my favorite. God bless abilities

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 04:59:48 No.36910120 Report

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>>36906971
Fuck your type matchups

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 08:40:19 No.36910755 Report

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>>36906971
He boiled, internally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 09:45:22 No.36910848 Report

Quoted By: >>36910856

>>36908034
>>The anime itself says multiple times that it has passed a lot of time since Ash's story begun, sometimes even recalling long periods like months or years, yet he is still 10 years old
>people STILL TO THIS DAY don't understand what Kodomo is
embarassing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 09:50:24 No.36910856 Report

Quoted By: >>36910859

>>36910848
>excuses
pfhahaha the state of trashnimefaga

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Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 09:53:53 No.36910859 Report

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>>36910856
>"y-you're just making excuses, i-i'm not guilty of not doing research and making faulty complaints!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 09:54:38 No.36910862 Report

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>>36908175
it's another elite 4 always win episode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 09:58:35 No.36910871 Report

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>>36908175
>Mega Blastoise is absolute trash in the games and still they made it win against the far superior Charizard X
what did they mean by this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:15:18 No.36910916 Report

Quoted By: >>36910964

>>36906971
Just like the games: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charizard Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blastoise in Sun on a critical hit: 447-526 (123.4 - 145.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:24:15 No.36910939 Report

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>>36907071
Not the only time a Charizard could tank water

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:38:24 No.36910964 Report

Quoted By: >>36910968 >>36910970

>>36910916
Gen1 had no EVs, Items or abilities...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:40:30 No.36910968 Report

Quoted By: >>36910979

>>36910964
>talking about Pokemon Origins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:40:57 No.36910970 Report

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>>36910964
ahh good times

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:43:43 No.36910979 Report

Quoted By: >>36910986

>>36910968
And Pokemon Origins is based on Gen1 games

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:45:55 No.36910986 Report

Quoted By: >>36911005

>>36910979
Red in the series pretty obviously uses Gen 3's design you dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 10:50:39 No.36911005 Report

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>>36910986
>Japanese cover says "for those who played Red and Green"
>American cover says "The Story of Red and Blue"
>this dumbass still thinks it's not based on Gen1 games

Yeah even though they fucked up with man inaccuracies and shoved Mega Evolution to promote their trash X/Y games, it's still based on Gen1.

besides, while TMs were mentioned in Origins, Items or abilities were never mentioned except Mega stone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 11:24:25 No.36911093 Report

Quoted By: >>36911145

>>36907567
At this point, which gen 1 game can Charizard Megaevolve in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 11:47:42 No.36911145 Report

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>>36911093
LGPE :^)

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Anonymous Wed 07 Nov 2018 15:00:51 No.36912128 Report

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>>36907384
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