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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 05:52:12 No.36949008 View View Reply Original Report

>no Bullet punch
Welcome to PU!
Movesets here:
https://pastebin.com/csJJyxDU

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 05:56:32 No.36949033 Report

Quoted By: >>36949519 >>36949647 >>36951589

Can't be fucked to cross-ref against veekun, but these level-up sets feel like a step backwards? As of USUM, most level-ups are bloated (you get a gimmick Stockpile/Spit-Up/Swallow! you get a gimmick status move you've never heard of before! and you get a coverage move you don't deserve and your stat spread won't let you use effectively!) but this is a bit too much. One of the lamest things about Gen I/II when I played the VC releases was the really lousy movepools for most monsters, and we're now closer to that territory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 05:56:33 No.36949034 Report

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>>36949008
>no healing moves for the AV set
>raped by hazards, burns and intimidate
UU here we go

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 05:58:13 No.36949040 Report

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>>36949008
1) Bullet Punch isn't in the move data in this game, so we don't know if Melmetal will be able to learn it in Gen VIII.
2) Melmetal still has Thunder Punch, Ice Punch, Double Iron Bash, and Earthquake. That shit alone will make it RU. PU is reserved strictly for the shittiest shitmons. A bulky Steel tank with high attack, defense, and HP isn't PU.
3) It doesn't even matter until we get to Gen VIII since Smogon doesn't lump unofficial shit in to their metagames. (Melmetal and Meltan are exclusive to LGPE and GO, so they can't be used in a USUM metagame.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:00:24 No.36949052 Report

Quoted By: >>36949285

>>36949008
Actually wait. He might get it in gen 8. Even if all the moves are in the database not all are used. No pokemon has bullet punch, seed bomb is also missing that's why bulbasaur can't learn it anymore. They were so lazy that they didn't even make animations for moves so they decided to make them inaccessible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:00:58 No.36949058 Report

Quoted By: >>36949082

>>36949008
what is double iron bash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:01:19 No.36949061 Report

Quoted By: >>36949095

>>36949008
>Beedrill cant use the Megahorn TM
>gets Outrage instead
one job

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:05:58 No.36949082 Report

Quoted By: >>36949500

>>36949058
Melmetal's signature move. A double hit steel type move with 60BP that a chance to flinch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:07:36 No.36949095 Report

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>>36949061
>mega
>horn

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:10:48 No.36949109 Report

Quoted By: >>36949123 >>36949128

>>36949008
>No boosting moves.
This isn't funny GameFreak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:13:23 No.36949123 Report

Quoted By: >>36949128

>>36949109
Only dragon dance seems to be missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:14:05 No.36949128 Report

Quoted By: >>36949150

>>36949109
>>36949123
They wiped everything but gen1 and added a bit of extra coverage back in. They even made sure to have Kadabra with Flash, Machamp with Strength, and Farfetchd with cut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:17:13 No.36949142 Report

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>Farfetch'd gets razor leaf

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:20:18 No.36949150 Report

Quoted By: >>36949189

>>36949128
and they still did not change Strength's type to Fighting or give Cut a high crit rate to make these moves competitively usable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:22:27 No.36949160 Report

Quoted By: >>36949263 >>36952636

>>36949008
BEHOLD. The next VGC Star.
He can run ice beam and Shuca berry to dispatch of Lando-T.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:26:49 No.36949185 Report

Quoted By: >>36949210

5 Pokemon get moonblast
>Oddish
>Gloom
>Clefairy
>Muk
>Alolan Muk

Is Muk an honorary fairy yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:27:22 No.36949187 Report

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>Better Regigigas with no healing
And not even a usable special set.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:27:30 No.36949189 Report

Quoted By: >>36949640

>>36949150
Cut should be 70 BP and always crit and Strength a 80 BP Fighting move.

>>36949008
Melmetal has a poor movepool but excellent stats. He is the physical Cobalion of Trick Room.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:29:14 No.36949196 Report

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>>36949008
I hope, it gets Drain Punch in Gen 8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:31:49 No.36949210 Report

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>>36949185
Well Grimer's lore is that rays from the moon is what made it alive, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:35:35 No.36949225 Report

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>>36949008
This looks like a great Custap Berry user. Good defensive typing, immense physical bulk, great Attack.

Another idea is Weakness Policy + Thunder Wave.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:37:10 No.36949237 Report

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>>36949008
NUmelmetal

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:42:41 No.36949263 Report

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>>36949008
It gets Thunder punch/Ice punch and has Iron fist, that's not bad. Could maybe work under Trick Room. Maybe something like
Melmetal @ Assault Vest/Life Orb
Ability: Iron Fist
- Double Iron Bash
- Thunder Punch
- Ice Punch
- Earthquake
>>36949160
Isn't it a mythical?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:46:01 No.36949285 Report

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>>36949052
They didn’t make new animations for plenty of moves lots are reused from Sun and Moon. So they just removed them for no reason.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:46:28 No.36949286 Report

Quoted By: >>36951556

>>36949008
>"""the next stakataka""
*long wet fart noise*

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 06:56:24 No.36949333 Report

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>liquid metal
>no fire punch

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 07:38:49 No.36949492 Report

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Stop using Smogon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 07:40:03 No.36949500 Report

Quoted By: >>36949587

>>36949082
with a speed like that, literally only good in trick room

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 07:45:58 No.36949519 Report

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>>36949008
Hopes to that it'll be better when Gen 8 comes around.

>>36949033
like 80% of the moves in pokemon aren't in LGPE, hard to make movesets without any moves

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 08:07:34 No.36949587 Report

Quoted By: >>36949598

>>36949500
does trick room even exist in this game

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 08:11:34 No.36949598 Report

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>>36949587
>no Trick Room
WELCOME TO UNTIERED!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 08:26:38 No.36949640 Report

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>>36949189
It's hard to really judge his movepool when so many moves aren't even programmed into the game. I'm interested to see where he'll go from here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 08:28:34 No.36949647 Report

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>>36949033
So it's a faithful remake after all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:32:29 No.36950504 Report

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>>36949008
Fire Punch is what really matters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:38:05 No.36950533 Report

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I really hate /vp/'s retarded attitude where every mon must either be uber/OU status or PU/untiered unplayable trash like there is not a goddamn middle ground, and melmetal seems to perfectly fit into that middle ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:47:31 No.36950567 Report

Quoted By: >>36950627

>>36949008
We absolutely don't know that yet. They can give him new moves in Gen 8. There will also be new Gen 8 moves introduced in the games. You fags do realize these, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:48:31 No.36950573 Report

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I doubt it, but is there any info on Double Iron Brash? I'm hoping it's affected by Iron Fist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:54:04 No.36950611 Report

Quoted By: >>36950627

>>36949008
>no fire punch
The fuck
>no focus punch for a possble sub+punch set
Into the trash

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:56:37 No.36950627 Report

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>>36950611
See>>36950567

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 12:58:39 No.36950635 Report

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Are all abilities still programmed into the game, even though they aren’t usable/visible?

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:21:30 No.36951549 Report

Quoted By: >>36951689

>>36949008
This thing will learn shift gear and fuck the meta in gen 8...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:22:25 No.36951556 Report

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>>36949286
based long wet fart noise poster

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:27:04 No.36951589 Report

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>>36949033
>overage move you don't deserve and your stat spread won't let you use effectively!
Double Iron Bash is a flinching move on a pokemon with 34 speed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:40:40 No.36951689 Report

Quoted By: >>36951799

>>36951549
outsped by half of OU even at +2
it's shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:40:57 No.36951691 Report

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>>36949008
>arcanine gets play rough
I hope this carries into gen8

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 16:55:05 No.36951799 Report

Quoted By: >>36952225

>>36951689
>what is sticky web
Are you Go-tard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:00:33 No.36951828 Report

Quoted By: >>36951851 >>36952228

>a 600 BST Steel-type with Iron Fist, 143 attack, and some of the best physical moves it could have is considered unusable trash
What has this game become

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:04:42 No.36951851 Report

Quoted By: >>36951902

>>36951828
>65 sp def
>34 speed

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:10:45 No.36951902 Report

Quoted By: >>36952142

>>36951851
>135 hp
>143 atk
>143 def
>steel type
Yup, it's trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:27:09 No.36952142 Report

Quoted By: >>36952177

>>36951902
literally any special attacker (specially fire type) can fuck him before he does something. force you to use trick room

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:28:39 No.36952177 Report

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>>36952142
Using team preview on this mon is basically cheating, it blows up you Ruse room cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:30:47 No.36952225 Report

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>>36951799
its a move that makes melmetal even slower

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:30:49 No.36952228 Report

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>>36951828
it has the same issue rampardos has, but not as extreme.

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Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 17:51:21 No.36952636 Report

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>>36949160
HAHA MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Nov 2018 19:51:36 No.36955067 Report

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>>36949008
>iron fist
>not a new steel type water absorb

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