/vp/ - Pokémon » Thread #36995647

[140 / 28 / ?]

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:21:00 No.36995647 View View Reply Original Report

Can we talk about how fucking phenominal the remastered music is in this game?
My favourite is vermilion city
https://youtu.be/UOwTR7DVRvs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:22:06 No.36995658 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
>Shota Kageyama
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:23:58 No.36995671 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
It's serviceable. Not much else though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:24:01 No.36995672 Report

Quoted By: >>36996239

>>36995647
sure but id rather Pokemon not turn into sonic where music is the only thing that's good about the recent games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:26:01 No.36995687 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
The OST is very mediocre. Its more shit where they just change the instrumentation with no real style.

I miss how adventurous HGSS's remixes were.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:38:36 No.36995780 Report

Quoted By: >>36995859 >>36995866 >>36996235 >>36996802 >>36998687

>Slap generic orchestral instruments
WOW IT SOUNDS SO PROFESSIONAL AND GOOD

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:48:14 No.36995859 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995780
this, it sounds fucking terrible

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 07:49:56 No.36995866 Report

Quoted By: >>36996142 >>36996226 >>36997361 >>36998789

>>36995780
well it's Masuda, at least he didn't order a trumpet orchestra this time

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 08:45:04 No.36996129 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
>zero percussion
>same string instruments across 90% of the soundtrack

This is going to get grating real quick. The only good themes are the gym leader and legendary pokemon battles. Pokemon Tower also has a nice remix. But the rest suffers from being so samey.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 08:47:08 No.36996136 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
wtf she has shorts on under that slut dress?
>+1 to fuck this game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 08:48:16 No.36996142 Report

Quoted By: >>36997906

>>36995866
Fuck off.
If Masuda was good at one thing, it's music.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 08:48:37 No.36996145 Report

Quoted By:

The OST doesn't sound terrible, at least not worse than FRLG, but I can't shake that it sounds like it came from RPG Maker XP and doesn't sound fitting for the game at all.
The anime does orchestral adaptions of the game music and it's amazing. Like "VS Xerneas/Yveltal" is a good track in the game, but it's outright godly in the anime.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Capture.png, 268KiB, 903x511

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:01:41 No.36996194 Report

Quoted By: >>36996241 >>36996256 >>36996472 >>36998195 >>36999214

>orchestral synth mix
It's literally bad Shinji Miyazaki. Every arrangements left hand is dumbed down and mixed way low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIFJSXSnZmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo3byp_ri2U

What's a really hard hitting set of scales in the original games and SM's work is barely even audible in SK's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:08:28 No.36996226 Report

Quoted By: >>36997974

>>36995866
It's not Masuda's, it's Kageyama (XY guy)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:11:21 No.36996235 Report

Quoted By: >>36996795 >>37000074

>>36995780
Seriously, this orchestration performed live would probably be good, but they're gimping it with digital sounds. It sounds less like Pokemon and more like Slime Rancher or some other Indie game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:12:10 No.36996239 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995672
good thing that's not even close to happening

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:12:40 No.36996241 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996194
>how do we make it sound good?
>just throw in a random guitar strum every now and then
>actually that is bad make it so you can barely hear it
what a waste

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:13:47 No.36996248 Report

Quoted By: >>36996269 >>36998714

I think the theme in OP sounds pretty good
not sure why people see the need to hate everything about this game, even the good things
some of y'all need to learn to break things down a little and not be so extreme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:17:10 No.36996256 Report

Quoted By: >>36998524

>>36996194
horns vs winds sounds like
of course the first one sounds more energetic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:21:14 No.36996269 Report

Quoted By: >>36996371 >>36996575 >>36997918

>>36996248
Eh, it's not so much that I hate it, it's just that all the tracks are almost unchanged.
I liked what FRLG did with the music direction and I feel that with LGPE coming out 14 years after that it could do something new.
Just adding a more instruments doesn't make it any better than the original soundtrack in my eyes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:38:56 No.36996371 Report

Quoted By: >>36996426

>>36996269
Not that guy but I'm really, really not a fan of any of gen 3's arrangements but the gba's sound chip really sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:48:04 No.36996426 Report

Quoted By: >>36996443

>>36996371
Replaying gen 3 on a television with the GameBoy Player has given me a better appreciation for it but I agree with the original having a trash chip

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Untitled54.png, 308KiB, 1770x1080

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:49:47 No.36996439 Report

Quoted By: >>36996486 >>36999546

>>36995647
I don't really agree. I haven't played the game but I've listened to a lot of the soundtrack and they made some wierd choises. A good example is these two, why did they remove the marching drums? It's the main part of the song and what makes it so memorable and adventurous.
https://youtu.be/llhmkq-vsc0 [Open]
https://youtu.be/IcRCV339oY0 [Open]

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:50:41 No.36996443 Report

Quoted By: >>36996575

>>36996426
The least bad are probably the GBA versions of the Final Fantasy games. Squares PS1 arrangements were criticized over in Japan so they really tried on the GBA.
It's still trying to get blood from a stone though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:51:36 No.36996449 Report

Quoted By:

I don’t really care for it, it’s pretty generic and Kanto music has been redone a lot of times. If it was in a different style I probably would’ve liked it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:53:26 No.36996460 Report

Quoted By: >>36997113

>>36995647
>Same instrumentation for every single track
I didn't think it was possible to make such iconic music sound bland but here we are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:54:18 No.36996463 Report

Quoted By:

is the standard wild battle a new theme? i thought it was from pogo. If you told me it was gen 8 wild battle i'd believe it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:55:28 No.36996472 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996194
I wish they’d release the soundtracks of the BW, XY, and SM anime. The anime arrangements of the game songs are always at least decent imo and even some of the anime original songs are good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 09:59:07 No.36996486 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996439
i can hear drums in both, pretty sure the first one is more obvious just because 8-bit sounds are alot easier to pick apart

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:01:48 No.36996503 Report

Quoted By: >>36996511 >>36996529 >>36996553 >>36996556 >>36996628 >>36996836 >>36998865

Original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBby1E3tWwo
FR/LG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PBzNJo3B9I
LGPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aINfqMoe8eo
First two have soul, the third is unironically soulless.
Honestly this is probably the worst soundtrack a Pokémon game has ever had. Almost none of the tracks have been improved by their re-arrangements, and several have been made worse by them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:03:25 No.36996511 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996503
shit taste, yikes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:07:01 No.36996529 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996503
I wouldn't say that it's the worst Pokémon has ever had but 100% behind saying they haven't been improved.
Lowering the intensity of the tracks in LGPE was a bad move to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:11:50 No.36996553 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996503
Only Ichinose understands Kanto

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1535606568591.png, 604KiB, 833x707

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:12:23 No.36996556 Report

Quoted By: >>36997050

>>36996503
We're never going to get a Cinnabar remix as cool as FRLG's, are we?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:15:59 No.36996575 Report

Quoted By: >>36996635 >>36998699

>>36996269
I'm especially disappointed in the percussion in LGPE. The FRLG battle tracks just have so much more energy.

The use of the ride bell's great here
https://youtu.be/rdxd-dqZrG0?t=37

The timpani in the intro for the Gym Leader battle makes it 10x better than the other remixes (besides HGSS)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxFadPqMbfM

Was especially disappointed in the LGPE version for not keeping the transition from orchestra to the electric guitar bit here
https://youtu.be/-4vpdkEkup8?t=24

>>36996443
When it comes to sound quality, I think Fire Emblem is pretty up there for realistic sounding instruments. Chiptune hybrids like in the MegaMan Battle Network series (especially 2 and 3) holds up pretty well too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:20:13 No.36996592 Report

Quoted By: >>36996628 >>36997419

>>36995647
>Shota Kageyama
Fuck why'd they bring him back he's probably the most boring Pokemon composer of them all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:26:12 No.36996628 Report

Quoted By: >>36996659 >>36996745 >>36996836 >>36997865 >>36998524 >>36998885

>>36996503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3gneejUg4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZm5F8lklVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jGz8_N8fPw

GBA = Soul
Switch = Soulless

tfw there'll never be a high quality remix of FRLG's SS Anne

>>36996592
He was good in BW (Route 10, Skyarrow Bridge, Accumula Town)

But yeah, boring after that. Masuda said something about wanting the music to not be too vibrant or something so that parents wouldn't be alerted by what their kids are playing, so Masuda might've had a hand in the dullness of the soundtrack too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:27:16 No.36996635 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996575
Yeah, these new remakes are so catching and non-battle oriented that the more intense tracks of the past wouldn't fit.
All of the percussive elements couldn't be added without making the game seem even less out of its own skin.
Also...

>Chiptune hybrids like in the MegaMan Battle Network
Mah nigga

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:31:40 No.36996659 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996628
I can relate to that, i find the soundtrack of the older games alot more grating than i used to. like they're good for one loop and i close them immediately, while the newer ones i can listen to quite a few loops. It's why I hope adachi remains the primary composer for gen 8, not sure if sato will still compose

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:47:18 No.36996745 Report

Quoted By: >>36996780 >>36996836 >>36996977 >>36997074

>>36996628
Another remix where FRLG is far superior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWkyekgd9k0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eupz9OjpznM
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5X_rFqxNR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M7JkS_12fc

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:50:35 No.36996763 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
sounds like generic midi orchestration to me
Mediocre

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:53:59 No.36996780 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996745
I think lgpe's victory road conveys a sense of foreboding way better than the march from frlg

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:56:28 No.36996795 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996235
This. If you're going to have Orchestral music in your games at least record it live.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 10:57:12 No.36996802 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995780
Fucking this. I'm surprised that GF knew normies actually eat this kind of thing up.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1504259890765.gif, 2MiB, 392x260

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:01:52 No.36996836 Report

Quoted By: >>36996887 >>36997899 >>36999034

>>36996503
>>36996628
>>36996745
>LGBT's soundtrack is so uninspired that /vp/ is actually comparing it to one of the weakest OSTs in the series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:07:43 No.36996887 Report

Quoted By: >>36996908 >>36998524

>>36996836
FRLG is almost entirely held back by the notoriously shitty GBA sound chip. The actual arrangements are pretty great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:09:26 No.36996907 Report

Quoted By:

>yfw Miyazaki will never be hired on for the games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:09:29 No.36996908 Report

Quoted By: >>36997938

>>36996887
But RSE sounds better and it came out before tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:21:37 No.36996977 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996745
the new pokemon mansion one is fucking trash

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO image.jpg, 88KiB, 720x540

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:33:15 No.36997050 Report

Quoted By: >>36997996

>>36996556
>Klk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:36:35 No.36997066 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
Sounds like absolute fucking shit, mate. Grow some taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DeemFyiRwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:37:17 No.36997074 Report

Quoted By: >>36997336

>>36996745
LGPE RUINED Mt. Moon music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNroGw0jj8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkLe0HkgM94

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 11:43:34 No.36997113 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996460
This for sure. It sucks, because S/M was so varied. You had that hip hop shit for the skull themes, crazy baselines for Gladion, that tribal chanting for the guardians, all that and the vocal samples were kino

https://youtu.be/cKr616BOslU

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 12:22:04 No.36997336 Report

Quoted By:

>>36997074
Okay wow, Mt. Moon's a special kind of bad. It's not just the arrangement here, it sounds like literal noise at some parts just because of the synth. This is like, ORAS-level of bad.

I think Silph Co's the only remix I was more disappointed in so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPWBxFKjLIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1qdCaZf6wk

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 12:25:53 No.36997361 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995866
good because the trumpets were always awful

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 12:26:19 No.36997363 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
Sounds fucking terrible. If they went orchestral it might actually be decent. This sounds like it was composed on a Casio keyboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 12:34:59 No.36997419 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996592
>he's probably the most boring Pokemon composer of them all
You are retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:32:22 No.36997865 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996628
>BW guy was on LGPE and yet the ost still sounded meh
huh, I loved BW's OST

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:33:01 No.36997872 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
NOSTALGIA BOMB. Holy shit... music is magic indeed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:36:41 No.36997893 Report

Quoted By:

the OST sounds like fan remixes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:37:38 No.36997899 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996836
I mean, they're being compared because they're both comprised of remixes of the same OST. You're drawing a very different parallel there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:38:55 No.36997906 Report

Quoted By: >>36997974

>>36996142
All of his battle music is starting to sound similar in recent games

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:40:26 No.36997918 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996269
I'm an Ichinose fan, but FRLG OST was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:43:14 No.36997938 Report

Quoted By: >>36997949

>>36996908
Seems like the weakest OST are the ones with only one composer, RBY FRLG and LGPE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:43:23 No.36997939 Report

Quoted By:

There are fan remixes better than this. It sounds generic as shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:44:27 No.36997944 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
It's mediocre for the most part and I know exactly why.
They're pulling what Dragon Quest does and making it so that if you want the "true" music experience, you gotta go see concerts for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:45:32 No.36997949 Report

Quoted By: >>36998195

>>36997938
>FRLG
FRLG gave us the best rearrangement of any Pokemon music the franchise has ever seen, don't put it in the same boat as the other two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoOjZFQzGgo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:49:11 No.36997974 Report

Quoted By:

>>36997906
That's because
>>36996226

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:50:46 No.36997982 Report

Quoted By:

This is the most bland soundtrack in any Pokemon game so far, it even managed to top the most bland tracks from X/Y somehow (which, while overall bland and boring, managed to create a few masterpieces), which is fucking admirable.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO stum.jpg, 37KiB, 640x480

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:53:25 No.36997996 Report

Quoted By: >>36998003

>>36997050
>DBZ

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1489252929211.gif, 726KiB, 300x168

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:54:30 No.36998003 Report

Quoted By: >>36998017

>>36997996
>Rugrats

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO image.png, 480KiB, 1280x720

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 13:57:05 No.36998017 Report

Quoted By: >>36998115

>>36998003
>Jontron

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1530729268494.jpg, 5KiB, 200x200

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 14:11:16 No.36998115 Report

Quoted By: >>36998135

>>36998017
>Arc-V

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO images.jpg, 7KiB, 210x240

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 14:12:55 No.36998135 Report

Quoted By: >>36998606

>>36998115
>Dexter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 14:21:29 No.36998195 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996194
>>36997949
I prefer the soundtrack that was used in Origins over the one used for LGPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ltOaOKhmwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5s4VYC9xR4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 14:58:31 No.36998524 Report

Quoted By:

Kagayama was indeed doomed to be discount Shinjia Miyazaki from the start, that was my conclusion from the first time I heard his Route 1 theme in the promo material. I can understand and even enjoy of some his choices for ORAS but RGBY are so straightforward that if something is off you're cooked. Acoustic guitar (or something in the family) for Vermilion? Why?

>>36996887
I've come to appreciate that a lot more in time. Like >>36996628, Kageyama is adapting the song as it actually was, but FRLG is actually having fun in a non-detrimental. HGSS's arrangements meandered too much on occasion but they made a place for themselves for it.

>>36996256
Much of the story here.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO CE77A4B7-4D34-4935-96EC-EC209C65 (...).png, 116KiB, 522x810

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:09:14 No.36998606 Report

Quoted By: >>36998719 >>36998729

>>36998135
>Jimmy Neutron

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:19:17 No.36998687 Report

Quoted By: >>36999268

>>36995780
This
It literally sounds like a fan-made remix that you can find on youtube, nothing interesting at all. Since there aren't even new tracks for unique characters or for team rocket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:20:21 No.36998699 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996575
I fucking love FRLG's Gym Leader theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:21:45 No.36998714 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996248
LGPE's OST is not bad, it's just boring. We've listened to these tracks over and over again for the last two decades. LGPE just doesn't bring many new things to the table, and the fact they went for the generic rpg orchestrated style just makes it all the less interesting.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO image.png, 231KiB, 795x704

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:22:15 No.36998719 Report

Quoted By: >>36998763

>>36998606
>Danny Phantom

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO heavy.gif, 1MiB, 297x312

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:23:21 No.36998729 Report

Quoted By:

>>36998606
>Deltarune

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:24:55 No.36998742 Report

Quoted By:

https://youtu.be/1roy4o4tqQM
gg

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO never ever homo.jpg, 80KiB, 431x424

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:27:03 No.36998763 Report

Quoted By: >>36999287

>>36998719
>pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:28:11 No.36998777 Report

Quoted By:

kageyama isnt bootleg miyazaki at all, and its pretty insulting to miyazaki to liken kageyama to him at all

miyazaki isnt afraid to mix shit up and make the tracks differ from their original tunes at all

kageyama on the otherhand is just bland as fuck and takes no measures to make anything he composes memorable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:29:26 No.36998789 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995866
Shota Kageyama arranged the soundtrack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:30:24 No.36998795 Report

Quoted By:

>insulting shinji miyazaki by likening kageyama to him at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:33:03 No.36998827 Report

Quoted By:

I don't like most of the remixes. A lot sounds dull. And i hoped for a faster vermillion theme. For the slow we have the johto remixes and the HGSS Soundtrack is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:36:40 No.36998865 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996503
All of the LGE tracks sound "empty" like they were performed in an empty stadium outside.
Same thing happened to many of the ORAS tracks, leading to people preferring RSE's music. Adding "orchestra effect" does not automatically equal "better". Game Freak should realize this soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:39:47 No.36998885 Report

Quoted By: >>36998911

>>36996628
Wow....to be fair I don't think anyone is ever topping that FRLG rendition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:42:26 No.36998911 Report

Quoted By:

>>36998885
I just hoped for that version without the horrible GBA soundchip

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:50:00 No.36998970 Report

Quoted By:

>No percussion
>Vermillion suddenly sounds like a generic RPG soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yDXSq18mY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcUVDzKih98

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:50:33 No.36998975 Report

Quoted By: >>36999024 >>36999393 >>36999401 >>36999458

>this sounds too much like the actual music
>where are the random ear piercing instruments going back and forth
>my ear isn't even bleeding
Hoenntoddlers are unbelievable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:56:22 No.36999024 Report

Quoted By:

>>36998975
I mean I was waiting for the "my grating Game Boy samples were the best!" response, but what does that have to do with Hoenn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 15:57:04 No.36999034 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996836
>Worst soundtrack
>Had the better Gen II themes than HGSS

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:08:18 No.36999136 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
Literally Kanto: Arrangements for Middle School Band.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO DsIMI3QU4AE4N2Z.jpg, 140KiB, 822x617

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:11:51 No.36999166 Report

Quoted By: >>36999223

>>36995647
The music is boring and, it sounds like an orchestra suddenly going from one song to another since pretty much every single song uses the same instruments, and it got way too carried away with violins.

It also has the most boring Kanto Champion theme in the whole series because, again, they got too carried away with violins and when they tried to make it sound epic, it ended as a lame attempt to hype the player. Just compare LGPE's theme which takes too long to pick up its pace: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-A6agmUOX4

To every remix in the whole series. Even Stadium's Prime Cup Final did it better:

Stadium's Rival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPERWdWGPCc
Stadium's Prime Cup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRt7-wLV6H0
FRLG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T0pG8PKhBU&t
B2W2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWYQ0LMW4qk

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1326612196595.jpg, 5KiB, 161x175

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:16:07 No.36999214 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996194
I never liked the so called "legendary" theme of Gen 1. It's just the regular Kanto wild battle theme and it knows it but it continues to get remixed alongside the regular battle theme when both are available. It could've been so much more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:17:06 No.36999223 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999166
Stadium's OST alone is better than any music Masuda or anyone else in GF has ever created

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:21:00 No.36999268 Report

Quoted By:

>>36998687
>Since there aren't even new tracks for unique characters or for team rocket
This is what I find the strangest of all, considering TR has had their own theme since GSC and Giovanni finally got his own theme in USUM, which is an amazing theme overall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydnOvJdfCnM

Yet they gave them all generic battle themes in LGPE. They got stuck in remaining faithful to the original games that their themes don't stand at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:22:10 No.36999287 Report

Quoted By:

>>36998763
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:25:03 No.36999317 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
they should have hired Shinji Miyazaki

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:31:39 No.36999393 Report

Quoted By: >>37000813

>>36998975
>Actual music
Sinnoh shits all over this with one instrument alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc0At5MXUoM

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:32:13 No.36999401 Report

Quoted By: >>36999458

>>36998975
this, i'm glad that gen 8 is very likely to continue what SM had with tunes that aren't offensively grating to the ears

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1.png, 313KiB, 701x394

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:35:27 No.36999432 Report

Quoted By: >>36999470

>>36995647
Haha very good OP, very good...

Now post the remastered Giovanni theme they most certainly included in these games.

Giovanni is the big baddie, surely they didn't forget to give him his own theme like they did in USUM, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:38:22 No.36999458 Report

Quoted By: >>36999869

>>36998975
>>36999401
Gen 7 already had some reallly good and varied songs and as bad as the generation was, it gave us some amazing themes, including the best boss battle remix in the whole series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTkg_x0Zik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5mwFHgIRtg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2DIQ_8S0f0

Compared to this, LGPE sounds way too samey and bland. It's so safe it doesn't attempt to do anything original and instead sticks to its violin-made mold through the whole soundtrack.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1485752838301.png, 77KiB, 234x200

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:38:54 No.36999465 Report

Quoted By: >>36999497 >>36999508

>ITT: boomers who don't understand LGPE wasn't meant to push the boundaries of the Pokemon franchise but to reintroduce the franchise to zoomers who never played the original games and pleb millenials who never made it past gen 3
Have fun with those $50 Mews

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:39:14 No.36999470 Report

Quoted By: >>36999497

>>36999432
Nope. Only Battle Themes are the Trainer Theme, Gym/Elite Four Theme, Classic Wild Battle Theme and Champion Theme just as it was in RGBY.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1417935682103.jpg, 18KiB, 172x168

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:43:13 No.36999497 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999465
>reintroducing the franchise by removing multiple features that not only make the game fun, but also give it depth

>>36999470
At this point I don't even know if they're lazy or just retarded. They had a fresh theme for Giovanni and refused to go with it.

I'm already surprised they didn't remove the physical/special split too.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1480714897389.png, 139KiB, 900x504

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:44:40 No.36999508 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999465
>>36999465
>I-It's supposed to be shit!

Where's that bingo card when we need it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:44:54 No.36999512 Report

Quoted By:

>>36995647
well, that was extremely disappointed. Listened to every song and most of them are so samey and sound like short 30-60 seconds loops
I wonder if the CD release will have the full or did they really fuck it this bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:49:09 No.36999546 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996439
nigga you deaf af

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:50:45 No.36999558 Report

Quoted By: >>36999590

>>36995647
Better than sullying it with trumpetshit, but equally as generic as FrLg's renditions

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1510526628515.jpg, 113KiB, 756x1100

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:54:58 No.36999590 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999558
>frlg renditions
>bland

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:56:23 No.36999600 Report

Quoted By:

LGPE's OST sounds devoid of impact or power

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Pokémon Game Composers Ha (...).png, 2MiB, 1300x1350

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:57:57 No.36999610 Report

Quoted By: >>36999630 >>36999650 >>36999727

Obligatory because the lack of knowledge of you all. Kageyama arranged the entire Let's Go soundtrack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:59:47 No.36999630 Report

Quoted By: >>36999645 >>36999733

>>36999610
Masuda probably told him to just make everything be faux-orchestrations, so there was never any hope even with him at the helm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:01:42 No.36999645 Report

Quoted By: >>36999733 >>37000548

>>36999630
he didnt have to tell him to do that because thats how kageyama composes to fucking begin with

that faggot is responsible for hgss goldenrod and the lackluster hgss champion theme

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:02:11 No.36999650 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999610
sato a cutie, too bad she might not be doing music for gen 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:10:58 No.36999727 Report

Quoted By: >>36999753 >>36999757

>>36999610
would be helpful to put who composed which but that's also too much for a picture

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Shota Kageyama.png, 2MiB, 2250x1075

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:11:28 No.36999733 Report

Quoted By: >>36999822

>>36999630
That's most likely true. He oversees quite a bit on the franchise. Wouldn't surprise me if he went rouge again after this.
>>36999645
>those two being lackluster
You mean below your expectations. Remember that he did stuff like Zinnia's and Alder's battle themes, which are by no means lackluster.
Let's Go's music does smell like Kageyama's work, but I think much much more orchestral than most or anyone expected.
At least, don't be one of those who says orchestral equals less powerful or bad. East West stuff isn't really orchestral, just samples real instruments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:13:50 No.36999753 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999727
Info was drawn from stuff like the Super Collection credits, which you can find on Bulbapedia and VGMDB. That and instrument sources we've found and can link to each person, obvious styles, etc. for stuff that's not available like some of the third version stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:14:14 No.36999757 Report

Quoted By: >>36999852

>>36999727
masuda composed rby by himself

masuda and go ichinose both worked on gs

morikazu aoki composed some of the crystal exclusive jingles and worked on some of RS (the picture isnt accurate)

Go Ichinose composed all of frlg by himself aside from the deoxys theme, which he arranged from masuda's composition,

dont really know/care about the rest

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:20:42 No.36999822 Report

Quoted By: >>36999916 >>36999943

>>36999733
below the expectations set by every composer prior to him on gamefreak's sound team, yes

i literally do not care for a single track kageyama has composed or remixed, they're all very bland with little to no variation in instrumentation, coupled with forgettable percussion and bland countermelodies

im not at all trying to say that being an orchestra based composer makes your work bad or less powerful at all, as i'm a super huge fan of shinji miyazaki

what i am saying though is that kageyama is not only bad at what he does, but seemingly lazy too when you compare his work to every other composer who's worked with the franchise. it deserves better.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Morikazu.png, 8KiB, 277x66

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:23:56 No.36999852 Report

Quoted By: >>36999906

>>36999757
>masuda and go ichinose both worked on gs
Aoki did as well.
>morikazu aoki composed some of the crystal exclusive jingles and worked on some of RS
He composed and arranged stuff in G/S, did new themes in Crystal including Battle Tower and did a good 30-40% of R/S.
>Go Ichinose composed all of frlg by himself
You mean he arranged everything. I don't care if I'm arguing semantics, put more effort into creating accurate posts if you're gonna call my vetted information inaccurate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:25:14 No.36999869 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999458
SM has the best Champion theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u67H7F0Ri0

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:28:44 No.36999906 Report

Quoted By: >>36999920

>>36999852
dont get pissy about people calling your shit inaccurate if you cant even bother to put rs in aoki's section

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:30:32 No.36999916 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999822

Kageyama was responsible for a number of standouts in Black/White (N’s Castle being among the best) and many of the good tracks in X/Y (Kalos theme, Laverre City, the route music, Snowbelle City), although Adachi has proven a somewhat more consistent composer in his stead.

Suffice to say your rattlings-on are nothing but opinions, which is essentially all anyone can offer in a conversation like this anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:30:48 No.36999920 Report

Quoted By: >>36999952 >>36999971

>>36999906
>if you cant even bother to put rs in aoki's section
Do I have to upload the full size version or donate you some glasses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:32:19 No.36999943 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999822
Not a big fan of Kageyama's work either, but I'll defend Relic Castle to the day I die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2N_SxWocQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:33:14 No.36999952 Report

Quoted By: >>36999987

>>36999920

You did fine, this guy just fancies himself a musical authority figure. By the way, where’d you find the photo of Aoki? He’s one of the unsung heroes of the franchise’s middle years.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1542387477360.png, 2MiB, 1314x1350

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:35:33 No.36999971 Report

Quoted By: >>36999987

>>36999920
i dont fucking see it dude

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO ichibends.png, 500KiB, 436x456

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:36:24 No.36999987 Report

Quoted By: >>37000005 >>37000058

>>36999952
I remember we found him hiding in some G/S magazine of sorts. I don't recall what it was, though. I think emuparadise actually had the magazine scans, I'll check.
>>36999971
oh shit caught

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:37:34 No.37000005 Report

Quoted By: >>37000058

>>36999987
ya i legit missed it but still dont get so mad about it christ

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Seal_of_quality.png, 23KiB, 250x195

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:41:48 No.37000058 Report

Quoted By: >>37000093

>>36999987
>>37000005
>files down
Just take my word for it, I know some dude who browses this place who can back me up or correct me entirely. I hope the scans were backed up, but I really don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:43:06 No.37000074 Report

Quoted By:

>>36996235
At least Slime Rancher's OST is amazing, unlike this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTn2XkVEbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCYFhckbAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsy5q4HyVNw

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:44:27 No.37000093 Report

Quoted By: >>37000100

>>37000058
no im not that dude im the guy who said you didnt have rs on the chart

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 17:45:26 No.37000100 Report

Quoted By:

>>37000093
Maybe I'm the one who should get glasses

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 18:18:41 No.37000548 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999645
>hgss champion theme
>lackluster
Seek help.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Nov 2018 18:41:38 No.37000813 Report

Quoted By:

>>36999393
Based

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches