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Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:11:52 No.37021028 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>37021037 >>37021040 >>37021071 >>37021083 >>37022083 >>37023712 >>37023747 >>37023832

Hot take: the new wild Pokémon system in Lets Go is actually great and I hope it stays

it's everything else about the game that's shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:14:09 No.37021037 Report

Quoted By: >>37021057 >>37023631

>>37021028
What do you mean by the wild pokemon system? Do you mean random encounters being replaced by overworld models? Wild battles being dropped?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:14:44 No.37021040 Report

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>>37021028
Just add battles and more pokemon interaction.

For exaple when two ekans rush on you you enter double battle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:14:57 No.37021045 Report

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Get rid of the waggle and I agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:16:03 No.37021055 Report

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Make it so that you can fight wild Pokemon and change the system so that there is some way to aim without waggle randomness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:16:57 No.37021057 Report

Quoted By: >>37021072 >>37021648 >>37022083 >>37023599 >>37023825

>>37021037
All of it. I like the overworld wild Pokémon, I like the Go ripoff catch method, and I like the chaining system.

The games real issues come from it stripping down everything else, butchering what little there already was of Kanto and removing good battle features like abilities. Also the faggot rival

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:19:24 No.37021071 Report

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>>37021028
I wouldn’t have a problem with this if there was an option for a wild battle like you do for Snorlax, and legendary Pokémon.
As it is now, tthe system is kind of annoying when you are struggling to catch a rare wild Pokémon that refuses to be caught with no way to make your chances better since berries barely fo anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:19:45 No.37021072 Report

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>>37021057
>, I like the Go ripoff catch method
You need to walk away from this franchise, you've done enough harm

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:21:36 No.37021083 Report

Quoted By: >>37021157

>>37021028
Fight Pokémon --> Choose "Catch" option --> Pokemon go catch mechanic
Why didn't they do this instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:25:06 No.37021105 Report

Quoted By: >>37021138 >>37021165

>Replacing random encounters with overworld encounters
Only good part about Go
>Removing wild battles
Makes no sense mechanically, giving your pokemon exp for not doing anything ever. Makes no sense thematically, not battling a pokemon first to weaken it before you catch it. Makes no sense in the lore, you get your Pokemon to battle wild Pokemon, except now you don't need a Pokemon you can just 100% run from every encounter and they never pose any threat to you.
>Making wild battles timed
Godawful, especially with the massive delays in the game. Turn based RPGs should never be timed.
>Go's Pokeball mechanics
Strict downgrade, pokemon bouncing all around dodging balls makes you waste even more balls since they can also break out of balls like normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:29:02 No.37021138 Report

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>>37021105
>Go's Pokeball mechanics
>Strict downgrade
How is making the game more interactive a downgrade? Its not perfect but it is a lot better than just throwing a ball through a menu. Even still the Pokeball throwing minigame offers the player more influence on the RNG, since better throws = better chance to catch a Pokémon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:32:12 No.37021157 Report

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>>37021083
They kinda do for snorlax and legendary battles. You gotta put thier hp to 0 then you enter catch mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:33:10 No.37021165 Report

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>>37021105
Wild pokemon were never a threat. And they can't ever be a threat, because there's nothing stopping you from just catching them and using them yourself.

Wild battles in Pokemon should have never existed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:35:47 No.37021181 Report

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>>37021165
Battles in Pokemon should have never existed, kids will become violent and battle with their animals :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:36:30 No.37021189 Report

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>>37021181
This. Pokemon was made by the devil and is corrupting my children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:38:00 No.37021202 Report

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>>37021072
For what it's worth, I play my Switch exclusively as a handheld. I haven't experienced the allegedly terrible motion-control ball throwing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:39:46 No.37021216 Report

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Cold take: the words "hot take" are always, 100% of the time, followed by a completely retarded fucking statement that the speaker wants to be praised for by other retards.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:41:11 No.37021226 Report

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>>37021165
in lore they were, you were never allowed in the tall grass because wild Pokemon could attack you like they do Professer Birch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 12:42:47 No.37021237 Report

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Middle ground idea

If you run up to a Pokemon, it goes straight into GO mode. If a Pokemon runs up to you, you have to weaken it first before entering GO mode, like with the legendaries and Snorlax. "Aggressive" Pokemon like Spearows, Sharpedos etc will aggressively pursue you on the overworld in an attempt to bump into you and trigger the battle mode. Also there would be the option for the analog stick and button controls in docked mode, not just handheld mode.

Would /vp/ be into this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 13:16:50 No.37021463 Report

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>>37021237
It should be mix. Even basic diferrent natures - diferent movements would be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 13:26:20 No.37021531 Report

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>>37021165
imagine being this stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 13:42:59 No.37021648 Report

Quoted By: >>37021761 >>37021853

>>37021057
The new catch method is fucking boring. There's no strategy to it. You replaced a system with multiple ways to increase capture rate with a QuickTime event essentially.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 13:49:51 No.37021718 Report

Quoted By: >>37021761 >>37021853

>>37021157
well not the same exactly... Before you had to keep the pokemon at low health making some pokemons harder to catch.
For legendaries it meant your team had to be able to take their hits while you keep throwing balls, also moves like false swipe, sleep etc so there was some strategy to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 13:55:29 No.37021761 Report

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>>37021648
>>37021718
It also makes it so formerly challenging Pokémon to catch aren't so much anymore. Legendaries with Recover or Safeguard, Beldum that only had Take Down, Pokémon inside a Sandstorm without the proper types; there were often tricks to the trickiest ones that required either concerted effort or creative thought.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:02:10 No.37021828 Report

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>>37021165
>Wild pokemon were never a threat.
>what is zubat for 100$, alex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:03:09 No.37021836 Report

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>>37021828
You don't say "what is" when picking the category, you faggot. Watch Jeopardy sometime.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:03:45 No.37021844 Report

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>>37021836
why?
it's dead, like our civilization

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:04:44 No.37021853 Report

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>>37021648
>>37021718
>>37021761

I want to have both systems at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:06:07 No.37021868 Report

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>>37021853
that sounds good to me

I think the visible pokemon on the map is the biggest addition of the new system though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:06:18 No.37021869 Report

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>>37021853
literally all you have to do with that is
>keep wild battle
>when you want to use a pokeball you select from bag and then throw
wow that was fucking hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:09:02 No.37021893 Report

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>>37021869
that's what I wish they'd done with this game

>>37021868
Absolutely. I feel like random encounters are cool in certain JRPGs but in Pokémon they're a bit of a nuisance, so I really like that they did away with them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:35:59 No.37022083 Report

Quoted By: >>37022089

>>37021028
>>37021057
They should keep the catching system but forcing you to fight the pokémon first like in the Snorlax and legendary pokémon encounters.
Also make so either pokémon flee with a fixed chance after getting out of the ball like in pokémon go or have them not flee at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 14:37:09 No.37022089 Report

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>>37022083
Of course quick balls let you skip the battle and give you a single chance of capturing the pokémon at a higher catch rate, but if you fail you enter the battle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 15:10:16 No.37022354 Report

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Idk I still think random encounters is better for a game like this. So what's the point of tall grass now that Pokemon aren't random encounters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 15:12:25 No.37022366 Report

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Not battling wild Pokemon is retarded and removes all the strategy they've built up w/r/t catching over the years. But they can keep the "you have to toss the Pokeball yourself and have a chance of missing" thing when you actually throw the Pokeball, that's not a problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 15:18:44 No.37022432 Report

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The problem with Pokemon Let's Go is that it takes a lot of heart outta the series. Shit like this is a prime example - now I just walk up to a pokemon hopping around in the grass. Instead of being a sentient creature, having some mystery to it and lending to a world with such a diverse ecosystem that these things live in tandem with humans by a miracle of... fuckery, it simply looks at you. And waits. Is it on a Safari Zone timer in these segments? Does it attack, bite, run, panic? I'm sure it just jumps and makes noise like Pokemon Go.

Back when I was a kid, you played Pokemon Yellow and you knew ecosystems by connection of the show. Instead of being battles and bright colors, there were groups of Pikachus that lived together in the wild. Bulbasaurs had some sort of 'glow in a field' event, spearows and fearows were hanging out in trees daring a nigga to step up.

It took intelligent animals and turned them into cooing pigeons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:18:50 No.37023599 Report

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>>37021057
>The games real issues come from it stripping down everything else
I can't argue there. I don't like the capture system but the real issue I have with Go is all the fucking low level 1 pokemon per team trainers clogging up routes when the original at least gave them 2 or 3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:21:44 No.37023631 Report

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>>37021037
So you're saying streamline the Pokemon-acquiring process so you can be thrust into more complex trainer battles quicker? I can get behind that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:29:55 No.37023712 Report

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>>37021028
I love being able to see the pokemon in the overworld and being able to pick which pokemon you want to approach. Running through the grass with no random battles outside of being occasionally drive by pidgeyed feels so nice. I hate that the pokemon can run away. I hate that so much. You can throw several excellents and they still can break free and run away. Some run away after a throw or two. Why? It could've been almost perfect but them running away sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:33:49 No.37023747 Report

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>>37021028
Having them visible in the overworld is good. I want that to stay.
The new catching mechanics would be better if they didn't feel so luck-based. If a Pokémon runs it doesn't feel like your fault, just that you got unlucky, and that's always a bad thing in game design.
Any change to make it so that it's always possible to catch it if you're skillful enough would be good.

Also motion controls suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:41:45 No.37023825 Report

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>>37021057
>overworld wild Pokémon
Good
>Go ripoff catch method
Bad, unless you combine it with the traditional "weaken the Pokémon first so that it's easier to catch" mechanic

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Nov 2018 17:42:14 No.37023832 Report

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>>37021028
The Pokeball minigame really is fun, but they should have wild battles too.
No reason to not have both, aside from casualization.

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